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Amazing seeing the whole team coming together in prayer...


Damar Hamlin's toy charity takes in millions in the following hours


Currently at 3.4 million dollars...

 

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Football is a great TV game - the greatest, I think. But I have increasingly mixed feelings watching young men ruin their brains and bodies for my entertainment.
 
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Football is a great TV game - the greatest, I think. But I have increasingly mixed feelings watching young men ruin their brains and bodies for my entertainment.
I have worked with former VT players and it is almost as if nobody cares for them after their time in sports.
 
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Football is a great TV game - the greatest, I think. But I have increasingly mixed feelings watching young men ruin their brains and bodies for my entertainment.
While I'm not a huge sports fan...

The league (as well as many other sports leagues have done a better job in recent years with concussion protocols.

It would seem as if what happened to this guy was an extremely rare event, it's the first time I've ever seen anything like that happen on a football field. I've seen bone breaks and people getting their "bell rung", but nothing like the abrupt collapse that occurred last night.

It's an extremely rough sport for certain positions, and perhaps there's a reason why we're one of the few countries that opt to play it and other countries have largely passed on it (even though other countries seem to have some public interest in it)

Even without the kinds of catastrophic events that occurred last night, it's not a great sport for longevity or physical well-being. You see a lot of retired football players hobbling around at age 40-50, while professional athletes in other sports seem to fair much better into old age as a general rule.
 
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The Toy Drive was just under $3,000 days earlier...


The fund is now set to roll over $4,000,000.


I must say here that I am proud of the support behind what looks like a good man.
 
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Football is a great TV game - the greatest, I think. But I have increasingly mixed feelings watching young men ruin their brains and bodies for my entertainment.
Interestingly I recall another occurrence of what looks to have happened here, impact to the chest at the exact wrong moment causing cardiac arrest, taking place in little league baseball when I was in elementary school. Football is damaging to those who play it, no way to get around that, but this is a wild card injury that is a vanishingly rare event that is well outside the normal dangers of the sport.
 
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Interestingly I recall another occurrence of what looks to have happened here, impact to the chest at the exact wrong moment causing cardiac arrest, taking place in little league baseball when I was in elementary school. Football is damaging to those who play it, no way to get around that, but this is a wild card injury that is a vanishingly rare event that is well outside the normal dangers of the sport.
Yes this one is an oddball injury, while most others are part of a chronic pattern.
 
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Although, of course, concussions are serious business, this doesn't appear to be that. It was a cardiac arrest: EXPLAINER: What happened to Damar Hamlin?

Apparently (from the radio this morning), a blow to the chest with just the right timing can stop a heart.
 
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Just for perspective, I used to race bicycles, and when you add in the training, I think a lot more people die for that sport than for football, even in the USA where participation is much less.

(But overall cycling is a huge net positive health wise, I think.)
 
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Fund is now over $4.1 million dollars and the family has updated the web site...

**UPDATE:
This fundraiser was initially established to support a toy drive for Damar’s community, sponsored by the Chasing M’s Foundation. However, it has received renewed support in light of Damar’s current battle and we can’t thank all of you enough. Your generosity and compassion mean the world to us.

If you would like to show your support and contribute to Damar’s community initiatives and his current fight, this is the place to do so. This is the only current fund that is being used by the Hamlin Family. Again, thank you for your thoughts, prayers and generous support during this time.
 
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Just for perspective, I used to race bicycles, and when you add in the training, I think a lot more people die for that sport than for football, even in the USA where participation is much less.

(But overall cycling is a huge net positive health wise, I think.)
With helmets, most bicycle riders don't wind up with chronic traumatic brain injuries which are all too common among football players.
 
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Just for perspective, I used to race bicycles, and when you add in the training, I think a lot more people die for that sport than for football, even in the USA where participation is much less.

(But overall cycling is a huge net positive health wise, I think.)

That and death (while directly doing the sport) is only one piece of the puzzle in terms of well being.

A lot of the big guys in football (even if they don't suffer a traumatic injury on the field) end up with other problems later in life due to carrying around all that weight and taking repeated hits that cyclists most likely wont.

While pro football players are above-average and obviously in good shape for being 300+ pounds, at the end of the day, the human heart (and back, and knee and ankle joints) don't care whether your 300+ lbs are fat or muscle, and eventually it'll catch up with a person.

Sort of like bodybuilding, steroid abuse aside, a lot of those guys (despite being "ripped") end up with some serious health issues later on in life as a result of their size. Former multi-time Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman now has to hobble around in a walker and take large amounts of pain meds to the damage he did.

Cyclists and runners certainly push their cardiovascular system to the limits, but they're not taking blunt impacts regularly, and they're keeping themselves at a lean healthy bodyweight.
 
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While pro football players are above-average and obviously in good shape for being 300+ pounds, at the end of the day, the human heart (and back, and knee and ankle joints) don't care whether your 300+ lbs are fat or muscle, and eventually it'll catch up with a person.
Hamlin is 6'0'' and 200 lbs: Damar Hamlin (S): Bio, News, Stats & more
 
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His case is unique in that it sounds like it was the blunt force trauma to the chest that caused it (which was a fluke)

I was just speaking more in general to the conversation the other two were having about the dangerous nature of certain sports in general, and the dangers that exist beyond just "dying while playing"

For instance, very few (if any?) bodybuilders and powerlifters have died while "doing the sport". However, many of them die younger than they should due to extraneous things they did in order to compete in that sport a few decades prior.
 
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Football is a great TV game - the greatest, I think. But I have increasingly mixed feelings watching young men ruin their brains and bodies for my entertainment.
At this point we don't know if it's football related or not. If it's not, being so close to medical personnel may have saved his life.
 
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At this point we don't know if it's football related or not. If it's not, being so close to medical personnel may have saved his life.
Yes. This instance is unknown, so far. But it reminds me of the chronic problem.
 
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Just for perspective, I used to race bicycles, and when you add in the training, I think a lot more people die for that sport than for football, even in the USA where participation is much less.

(But overall cycling is a huge net positive health wise, I think.)
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Just for perspective, how many professions (example police, etc..) who die in their work get this much attention.
 
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Just for perspective, how many professions (example police, etc..) who die in their work get this much attention.
How many fall right in front of thousands of viewers on live television? That's probably a big factor in the public attention this is getting.
 
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