OCD doubts on salvation have returned…..

[Blaise N]

Hey Everyone,


I’m back and unfortunately I’m reaching out again today for some support.Something that’s really bothering me,is these constant nagging doubts about my salvation which haven’t bothered me this badly in a minute.So I’m constantly examining my life for fruits and honestly I do see fruits but they’re all soaked in uncertainty.It’s this uncomfortable feeling of condemnation and sadness that’s overtaking me.And It’s really hurting me.Like I’ve said before in previous posts in the past,I cannot in any form wether it be emotionally,physically,mentally live without Jesus,my sanity as I know it rests on salvation,And if I’m not saved I’d fall into insanity.Everytime I find myself having committed a sin,I get on this constant worry cycle of despair if I’ve been saved or not.But what I find to be the most troubling at this moment is uncertainty on belief in Jesus,it’s like no matter how much I feel and claim to believe there’s always this nagging deep uncertainty on Wether or not I TRULY believe in Jesus,I don’t doubt that he is the way at all.It’s doubt on my ability or my soul really believing that scares me.

It’s just that finding fruits in my life and having the comforting conviction of salvation is something im lacking and it’s worrying so badly to me.

I want to clarify that none of my worries now are as severe or terrible as there were months or a year ago.But right now the problem I find myself in I can’t overcome by myself,I’ve been,by the Grace of God been able to overcome almost every anxious fit these past 3 months,but as of right now I can’t.


Plus if anyone can,I’d be so grateful if any of you could pray for me.

 

[Unqualified]

I pray God to give strength and the will to fight the doubt, read the Bible and old threads and bravely wait until this cycle of attacks passes and moves into belief again. I pray he will believe his own positive affirmations. I hope @Blaise N will memorize scripture and repeat until belief comes. Help to win this battle again Father and ingrain in him Your Word. Don’t let ocd conquer him in any way. But let his mind learn and go on in peace. In Jesus Name.

take thoughts captive as in 2cor10:3-5. Pray about it.

 

[nhisname]

These thoughts you're having is from Satan. When sin enters our lives it opens your mind for Satan to steal and destroy your peace. Ask the Lord for forgiveness, renew your mind and get God's armor on. Never leave home without it!
The Armor of God

Ephesians 6:10-18 says, “… Be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.”

The whole armor includes:

. The Helmet of Salvation

. The Shield of Faith

. The Breastplate of Righteousness

. The Belt of Truth

. The Sword of the Spirit

. The Gospel of Peace

 

[Tolworth John]

Something that’s really bothering me,is these constant nagging doubts about my salvation which haven’t bothered me this badly in a minute.So I’m constantly examining my life for fruits a

Please read:-
25 Tips for Succeeding in Your OCD Treatment and follow its advice.

May I ask just what does your minister advice you about the constant self examination?
What are you doing to ensure that you are growing as a Christian?
How are you involved in your local church?

a little example:-
two would be gardens sowed some seeds.
One requally water his, the other ignored them.
After a few days shoots could be seen and an excited 2nd garden, pulled them up to look at them, before replanting them

Which garden actual got plants and which one didn't?

 

[Blaise N]

Please read:-
25 Tips for Succeeding in Your OCD Treatment and follow its advice.

May I ask just what does your minister advice you about the constant self examination?
What are you doing to ensure that you are growing as a Christian?
How are you involved in your local church?

a little example:-
two would be gardens sowed some seeds.
One requally water his, the other ignored them.
After a few days shoots could be seen and an excited 2nd garden, pulled them up to look at them, before replanting them

Which garden actual got plants and which one didn't?

The 2nd garden got more.The answer to your first question unfortunately doesn’t have an answer because I’m still looking,one I almost attended which is a Lutheran one,had something that alarmed me.And a non-denominational one close to me really didn’t seem to be adequately teaching right.

 

[Tolworth John]

The 2nd garden got more.The answer to your first question unfortunately doesn’t have an answer because I’m still looking,one I almost attended which is a Lutheran one,had something that alarmed me.And a non-denominational one close to me really didn’t seem to be adequately teaching right.

If the teaching is largely sound you can still ask to talk to the minister of the Lutheran church and also ask about what ever alarmed you.

 

[Blaise N]

If the teaching is largely sound you can still ask to talk to the minister of the Lutheran church and also ask about what ever alarmed you.

Basically,it was the same thing the Catholics did,removed the 2nd commandment,as the Lutheran church follows the Missouri synod,which teaches the same 10 commandments as Catholics.

 

[musicalpilgrim]

I pray for you for assurance and to know the love of the Lord in your life.
Read your Bible and pray everyday. Don't listen to feelings, use a notebook to write down the wonderful promises of the Lord.

 

[Mari17]

Hey Everyone,


I’m back and unfortunately I’m reaching out again today for some support.Something that’s really bothering me,is these constant nagging doubts about my salvation which haven’t bothered me this badly in a minute.So I’m constantly examining my life for fruits and honestly I do see fruits but they’re all soaked in uncertainty.It’s this uncomfortable feeling of condemnation and sadness that’s overtaking me.And It’s really hurting me.Like I’ve said before in previous posts in the past,I cannot in any form wether it be emotionally,physically,mentally live without Jesus,my sanity as I know it rests on salvation,And if I’m not saved I’d fall into insanity.Everytime I find myself having committed a sin,I get on this constant worry cycle of despair if I’ve been saved or not.But what I find to be the most troubling at this moment is uncertainty on belief in Jesus,it’s like no matter how much I feel and claim to believe there’s always this nagging deep uncertainty on Wether or not I TRULY believe in Jesus,I don’t doubt that he is the way at all.It’s doubt on my ability or my soul really believing that scares me.

It’s just that finding fruits in my life and having the comforting conviction of salvation is something im lacking and it’s worrying so badly to me.

I want to clarify that none of my worries now are as severe or terrible as there were months or a year ago.But right now the problem I find myself in I can’t overcome by myself,I’ve been,by the Grace of God been able to overcome almost every anxious fit these past 3 months,but as of right now I can’t.


Plus if anyone can,I’d be so grateful if any of you could pray for me.

This is very typical of OCD! Examining "fruit" to see if you're saved, worrying about whether you truly believe, etc. Again, I'd advise you to join the Facebook group I recommended before, as I think you'll find others who share similar concerns. Also, the website Scrupulosity.com: Faith-based Solutions for Religious OCD - Scrupulosity.com seems to have a lot of helpful advice. How have you been doing the past couple of days?

 

[Blaise N]

This is very typical of OCD! Examining "fruit" to see if you're saved, worrying about whether you truly believe, etc. Again, I'd advise you to join the Facebook group I recommended before, as I think you'll find others who share similar concerns. Also, the website Scrupulosity.com: Faith-based Solutions for Religious OCD - Scrupulosity.com seems to have a lot of helpful advice. How have you been doing the past couple of days?

Better,but I’ve come across more anxiety of something completely different

 

[Tolworth John]

Basically,it was the same thing the Catholics did,removed the 2nd commandment,as the Lutheran church follows the Missouri synod,which teaches the same 10 commandments as Catholics.

Sorry I didn't see your reply.
I've done a quick check and the ppe has never made any pronouncement about removing, changing or anulling any of the 19 commandments.
But
A hoax site has reported that he did.
link to an explanation-

AP FACT CHECK: Pope didn't change Ten Commandments

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis didn't say that God had told him to revise the Ten Commandments as claimed in a widely shared story.

apnews.com

Check it out and do talk about your fears to a minister.

Hope you are able to celebrate the aniversary of Christs incarnation..

 

[Blaise N]

Sorry I didn't see your reply.
I've done a quick check and the ppe has never made any pronouncement about removing, changing or anulling any of the 19 commandments.
But
A hoax site has reported that he did.
link to an explanation-

AP FACT CHECK: Pope didn't change Ten Commandments

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis didn't say that God had told him to revise the Ten Commandments as claimed in a widely shared story.

apnews.com

Check it out and do talk about your fears to a minister.

Hope you are able to celebrate the aniversary of Christs incarnation..

Absolutely!,I never would skip celebrating Jesus’s birthday.btw John I don’t know where I’d be if you and everyone else here hadn’t been of such amazing help,thank you for helping me along with everyone else through this year.Have a merry Christmas

 

[Mari17]

Better,but I’ve come across more anxiety of something completely different

Oh, a new obsession? Or a new angle on an old obsession?

 

[Blaise N]

New angle of an old obsession

 

[sawdust]

I want to clarify that none of my worries now are as severe or terrible as there were months or a year ago.

Then it sounds to me that whatever you are doing is actually working. You are overcoming your difficulties even though it may be much slower than you want. Take heart, Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

When I was a new Christian a song that used to help me chill and get my focus on the right person was "Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus". Jesus taught us to focus on Him and His kingdom and in doing so we will find ourselves because He is the One who establishes us.

If we look at ourselves, trying to critique our progress/behaviour etc, it can be very easy to be discouraged. This is especially so if we have come from a background of condemnation. We can end up losing track of the path and find ourselves feeling lost.

It is always worthwhile remembering that getting things wrong isn't the big bogeyman that we haunt ourselves with. When we fall, we have an advocate who corrects us and helps us back on our feet. It's not failing that's the problem, it's refusing to be corrected. I do not think you are one who refuses correction.

Proverbs 24:16
for though the righteous fall seven times, they rise again, but the wicked stumble when calamity strikes.

Whenever you find yourself worrying, you need to tell the Lord and then replace your thought with His promise. Rest in that word and let the Lord "worry" about the path. You might have some days when it seems you are doing this every five minutes. That's perfectly ok. Keep your focus on the word of God, holding to what you know to be true. Take your stand on the things you are certain for that is your faith at work. You keep doing this over and over and if you have days when everything seems to fall apart, don't panic, just come back to that place where you can stand.

Slowly but surely you will overcome more and more of the pressures that would see you fall. Trust Him, He will not fail you. Let His power (grace) work within and don't worry about what you think you may be lacking for He lacks nothing.

You have my prayers and hugs.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

 

[Mari17]

New angle of an old obsession

How have you been doing lately?

 

[Blaise N]

How have you been doing lately?

Much better!!!

 

[lilly159]

Hey Everyone,


I’m back and unfortunately I’m reaching out again today for some support.Something that’s really bothering me,is these constant nagging doubts about my salvation which haven’t bothered me this badly in a minute.So I’m constantly examining my life for fruits and honestly I do see fruits but they’re all soaked in uncertainty.It’s this uncomfortable feeling of condemnation and sadness that’s overtaking me.And It’s really hurting me.Like I’ve said before in previous posts in the past,I cannot in any form wether it be emotionally,physically,mentally live without Jesus,my sanity as I know it rests on salvation,And if I’m not saved I’d fall into insanity.Everytime I find myself having committed a sin,I get on this constant worry cycle of despair if I’ve been saved or not.But what I find to be the most troubling at this moment is uncertainty on belief in Jesus,it’s like no matter how much I feel and claim to believe there’s always this nagging deep uncertainty on Wether or not I TRULY believe in Jesus,I don’t doubt that he is the way at all.It’s doubt on my ability or my soul really believing that scares me.

It’s just that finding fruits in my life and having the comforting conviction of salvation is something im lacking and it’s worrying so badly to me.

I want to clarify that none of my worries now are as severe or terrible as there were months or a year ago.But right now the problem I find myself in I can’t overcome by myself,I’ve been,by the Grace of God been able to overcome almost every anxious fit these past 3 months,but as of right now I can’t.


Plus if anyone can,I’d be so grateful if any of you could pray for me.

 

[Chaleb]

Everytime I find myself having committed a sin,I get on this constant worry cycle of despair i

If you can come to believe that God took you as His own, not because you are perfect, or will ever be, .. but only because JESUS on the Cross is why, then you have found real faith in Christ = that will free you from your performance anxiety.

Listen..

God is always kept in perfect peace with you,......not because of your behavior...but because of the Cross of Christ.

Put your faith there and keep it there, Blaise N, and you will free yourself from your needless worries and concerns, forever.