Hillary Clinton Compares Pro-Lifers to Iranian Regime, Taliban, Russian War Criminals

[HARK!]

Speaking with Christiane Amanpour from a women’s rights summit Thursday, Hillary Clinton compared America’s treatment of women as part of a global misogynistic movement in line with Iran’s theocratic ayatollahs and Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.


“We have come along way on so many fronts but we are also in a period of time where there is a lot of pushback and much of the progress that has been taken for granted by too many people is under attack: literally under attack in places like Iran or Afghanistan or Ukraine — where rape is a tactic of war — or under attack by political and cultural forces in a country like our own when it comes to women’s healthcare and bodily autonomy,” Clinton said.

Hillary Clinton Compares Pro-Lifers to Iranian Regime, Taliban, Russian War Criminals | National Review

‘Much of the progress that has been taken for granted by too many people is under attack,’ Clinton said.

www.nationalreview.com

Killing babies out of convenience is progress? If so I don't like Clinton's vision of progress.

 

[Fantine]

You dislike Clinton's vision of progress because you misread her vision of progress.
A society with universal healthcare, parental leave policies, etc would have few abortions.

Her approach is a carrot. Red states' approach is a stick.

 

[Lost Witness]

Abortion is Murder,
those children even before they have a heart, are known by the LORD,
They are his children, Period.

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

You dislike Clinton's vision of progress because you misread her vision of progress.
A society with universal healthcare, parental leave policies, etc would have few abortions.

Her approach is a carrot. Red states' approach is a stick.

Good luck explaining to the living God one day that killing 60 million unborn humans in the 50 years of Roe v Wade was "healthcare".

 

[disciple Clint]

You dislike Clinton's vision of progress because you misread her vision of progress.
A society with universal healthcare, parental leave policies, etc would have few abortions.

Her approach is a carrot. Red states' approach is a stick.

A society with universal healthcare, parental leave policies, etc would have few abortions.

based on exactly what evidence ????

 

[rambot]

Speaking with Christiane Amanpour from a women’s rights summit Thursday, Hillary Clinton compared America’s treatment of women as part of a global misogynistic movement in line with Iran’s theocratic ayatollahs and Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.


“We have come along way on so many fronts but we are also in a period of time where there is a lot of pushback and much of the progress that has been taken for granted by too many people is under attack: literally under attack in places like Iran or Afghanistan or Ukraine — where rape is a tactic of war — or under attack by political and cultural forces in a country like our own when it comes to women’s healthcare and bodily autonomy,” Clinton said.

Hillary Clinton Compares Pro-Lifers to Iranian Regime, Taliban, Russian War Criminals | National Review

‘Much of the progress that has been taken for granted by too many people is under attack,’ Clinton said.

www.nationalreview.com

Killing babies out of convenience is progress? If so I don't like Clinton's vision of progress.

No. Taking away a woman's bodily autonomy is though.

 

[NxNW]

Good luck explaining to the living God one day that killing 60 million unborn humans in the 50 years of Roe v Wade was "healthcare".

Good luck legislating a religious belief.

 

[HARK!]

Killing babies out of convenience is progress?

No. Taking away a woman's bodily autonomy is though.

That's an interesting perspective. Clinton and I would have to disagree with you on that one.

 

[HARK!]

Good luck legislating a religious belief.

Thou shalt not murder.

 

[NxNW]

Thou shalt not murder.

Our laws are not based on the Christian religion. Abortion does not involve the death of a human being.

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

Our laws are not based on the Christian religion. Abortion does not involve the death of a human being.

Oh dear, don't let a biologist hear that. If anyone outside of religion has the authority to decide what a human being is it's biologists. And the consensus among biologists is that the life of a human being begins at conception.

Biologists' Consensus on 'When Life Begins'

Many Americans disagree on ‘When does a human’s life begin?’ because the question is subject to interpretive ambiguity arising from Hume’s is-ought problem. The

papers.ssrn.com

 

[Desk trauma]

Good luck legislating a religious belief.

Thus far there is a perfect record of failure of anti abortion positions when put to a direct vote. Going to need a lot of gerrymandering rather than luck.

 

[HARK!]

Our laws are not based on the Christian religion.

H.RES.397 -- Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated... (Introduced in House - IH)

HRES 397 IH

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 397

Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `America's Spiritual Heritage Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

May 4, 2009

Mr. FORBES (for himself, Mr. MCINTYRE, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. MCCOTTER, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. AKIN, Mr. LATTA, Mr. JORDAN of Ohio, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mrs. BLACKBURN, Ms. FOXX, Mr. GINGREY of Georgia, Mr. JONES, Mr. WOLF, Mr. TURNER, Mr. ADERHOLT, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. SMITH of Texas, Mr. HOEKSTRA, Mr. YOUNG of Florida, Mr. WAMP, Mr. KLINE of Minnesota, Mr. DAVIS of Tennessee, and Mr. BISHOP of Utah) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

RESOLUTION

Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `America's Spiritual Heritage Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated into all 3 branches of the Federal Government from their very beginning;

Whereas the Supreme Court of the United States affirmed this self-evident fact in a unanimous ruling declaring `This is a religious people . . . From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation';

Whereas political scientists have documented that the most frequently cited source in the political period known as The Founding Era was the Bible;

Whereas the first act of America's first Congress in 1774 was to ask a minister to open with prayer and to lead Congress in the reading of 4 chapters of the Bible;

Whereas Congress regularly attended church and Divine service together en masse;

Whereas throughout the American Founding, Congress frequently appropriated money for missionaries and for religious instruction, a practice that Congress repeated for decades after the passage of the Constitution and the First Amendment;

Whereas in 1776, Congress approved the Declaration of Independence with its 4 direct religious acknowledgments referring to God as the Creator (`All people are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'), the Lawgiver (`the laws of nature and nature's God'), the Judge (`appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world'), and the Protector (`with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence');

Whereas upon approving the Declaration of Independence, John Adams declared that the Fourth of July `ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty';

Whereas 4 days after approving the Declaration, the Liberty Bell was rung;

Whereas the Liberty Bell was named for the Biblical inscription from Leviticus 25:10 emblazoned around it: `Proclaim liberty throughout the land, to all the inhabitants thereof';

Much much more:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-resolution/397/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22HRES+397+IH+111th+CONGRESS%22%5D%7D&r=3&s=2

Abortion does not involve the death of a human being.

Abortion kills babies. Human babies are human.

 

[rambot]

H.RES.397 -- Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated... (Introduced in House - IH)

HRES 397 IH

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 397

Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `America's Spiritual Heritage Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

May 4, 2009

Mr. FORBES (for himself, Mr. MCINTYRE, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. MCCOTTER, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. AKIN, Mr. LATTA, Mr. JORDAN of Ohio, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mrs. BLACKBURN, Ms. FOXX, Mr. GINGREY of Georgia, Mr. JONES, Mr. WOLF, Mr. TURNER, Mr. ADERHOLT, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. SMITH of Texas, Mr. HOEKSTRA, Mr. YOUNG of Florida, Mr. WAMP, Mr. KLINE of Minnesota, Mr. DAVIS of Tennessee, and Mr. BISHOP of Utah) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

RESOLUTION

Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `America's Spiritual Heritage Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated into all 3 branches of the Federal Government from their very beginning;

Whereas the Supreme Court of the United States affirmed this self-evident fact in a unanimous ruling declaring `This is a religious people . . . From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation';

Whereas political scientists have documented that the most frequently cited source in the political period known as The Founding Era was the Bible;

Whereas the first act of America's first Congress in 1774 was to ask a minister to open with prayer and to lead Congress in the reading of 4 chapters of the Bible;

Whereas Congress regularly attended church and Divine service together en masse;

Whereas throughout the American Founding, Congress frequently appropriated money for missionaries and for religious instruction, a practice that Congress repeated for decades after the passage of the Constitution and the First Amendment;

Whereas in 1776, Congress approved the Declaration of Independence with its 4 direct religious acknowledgments referring to God as the Creator (`All people are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'), the Lawgiver (`the laws of nature and nature's God'), the Judge (`appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world'), and the Protector (`with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence');

Whereas upon approving the Declaration of Independence, John Adams declared that the Fourth of July `ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty';

Whereas 4 days after approving the Declaration, the Liberty Bell was rung;

Whereas the Liberty Bell was named for the Biblical inscription from Leviticus 25:10 emblazoned around it: `Proclaim liberty throughout the land, to all the inhabitants thereof';

Much much more:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-resolution/397/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22HRES+397+IH+111th+CONGRESS%22%5D%7D&r=3&s=2

Abortion kills babies. Human babies are human.

That's strange to me that despite what your founding fathers actually agreed with the 2009 congress decides to ignore it and legislate what "actually happened."

 

[NxNW]

the consensus among biologists is that the life of a human being begins at conception.

No it's not. At the moment of conception, you have one cell, which could split into identical twins or triplets. Multiple human beings could eventually result (or, mostly likely, zero). But human beings are unique and quantifiable. Since you can't know how many will eventually be born, then that fertilized egg cannot be a human being.

 

[NxNW]

Oh dear, don't let a biologist hear that.

By the way, I first heard this argument from a biologist and a doctor speaking on the subject.

 

[NxNW]

H.RES.397 -- Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated...

In 1797, the Senate unanimously ratified the Treaty of Tripoli, drafted under Washington, which declares that “the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”

Abortion kills babies. Human babies are human.

Embryos are not babies.

 

[HARK!]

Multiple human beings could eventually result

then that fertilized egg cannot be a human being.

Logic fail.

 

[HARK!]

Embryos are not babies.

Human embryos are human.

 

[Vylo]

Thou shalt not murder.

Not all killing is murder. And there is an argument to be made about at what point you are killing a person.