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I have already explained my view of 1 Cor 14:33. It MUST be read in context, as is true of all scripture. To apply this to Gen 1:1 is a leap too far in my mind. But let me try once again to put this to rest. Believe what you will. But this has little or nothing to do with what I am trying to show you here. Nonetheless, here is my view of this topic.
In context, 1 Cor 14:33 appears to be instruction on how to 1) behave in the assembly, 2) when to speak in tongues or 3) how to discern false words of prophecy. Look at verses 22-32 to establish the intent of the author.
As far as Gen 1:2 is concerned, He also is credited with saying,
Adonai has taken credit for confusing everything from languages to protect us from ourselves, to confusing the enemy to protect us from evil. So, unless HE SAID that someone else was screwing up His work in creation, then I don't get it and I don't care. I am perfectly fine with Him creating all things according to His own purposes. I don't need to read 1 Cor 14:33 into it. Besides, it has nothing to do with what I am trying to show you that I found. So can we PLEASE drop it?
I don't know why you included me in this: I haven't said anything about 1 Cor 14:33, but since you quoted from the Yeshayah passage again and expounded your view I now feel compelled to say that I agree with Lulav's understanding of Genesis 1:1. Not because of the Corinthians passage but because of my understanding of bara' which I received from Yhoshua, (Joshua 17:15-18), where bara' means to cut down in the sense of cutting down trees to make a clearing and build a house. Thus, in the Yeshayah passage that you quoted, I have justification in the Torah for reading it to say that the Almighty cuts down evil.
I form the light and cut down darkness: I make peace and cut down evil...
The first man Adam is earthy, dust-like, and became a living soul in Gen 2:7. The second man, ben Adam, is from the heavens, and is given the dominion in Gen 1:26-28, for that which is physical and natural is first: then that which is spiritual. So the creation accounts now divided into two separate chapters are not in a linear chronological order: and just as Lulav also said, the first Adam was recreated, (in the image and likeness of Elohim, Gen 1:26-28). Adam sinned, and ate from the tree which he was commanded not to eat from, and he died, and Elohim raised him up in righteousness, (Isaiah 45:13), after having cut him down, (Isaiah 45:7-12, and particularly, Isaiah 45:12). Moreover the Septuagint version of Isaiah 45:13 reads the word for a king in that passage, (by way of a different separation of the Hebrew text), and says that he was raised up with a king of righteousness, (that is, Melki-Tzedek, the King of Righteousness). Where was he raised up? Genesis 1:26-28.
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