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Can we ever get over racism?

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Does not look like you did not, since that is the line of thinking you had when i ask that question. Because my question was directed to sinful acts which is what racism falls under. And since these acts have not been been remedied neither will racism in the age of satan and man.

Your question wasn't directed to anything in particular.

It wasn't even a question, it was set as a pitfall, which I chose to step over in the manner I chose to step over it.
 
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Your question wasn't directed to anything in particular.

It wasn't even a question, it was set as a pitfall, which I chose to step over in the manner I chose to step over it.

So the three listed acts are not sins
 
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For me it is a sense of danger, fear more than anything else. Probably because I was attacked as a child.
Many tell me something similar, that they suffered a attack or frightening experience, that has stayed with them and reappears in their current life or events. We must pray for God to help us overcome these feelings somehow..
 
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God can take away the pain and hurt from anything...

I am not a writer, so i more than likely did not word my post correctly to be understood. I was not saying can people over come actions that have happened to them.

My point was, as i understood the original topic post asking can racism be overcome (or can we get over racism). Meaning to me will man(all) ever stop being racist. So my point was, as racism is a sin. It will likely be around like other sins that make up daily life murder, stealing, adultery, etc.. It is not going away not until God removes man's sin nature.

It will not be able to, educated it away.
 
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Many tell me something similar, that they suffered a attack or frightening experience, that has stayed with them and reappears in their current life or events. We must pray for God to help us overcome these feelings somehow..
And I am white. What must it be like for someone black?
 
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As long as people do not acknowledge it exists, we will never get over it.
That is part of the problem.

Some do not acknowledge racism exists (regardless of the target of that racism).

Some do not acknowledge that despite the gains we have made the systemic racism that was eradicated decades ago left a scar on our society that is still felt today. People suffer because of the past.

But I think the larger issue is those who profit from racism (either monetarily or for the acquisition of power). Some foster racism with the guise of seeking a remedy for their own interests.

Even our solutions are racist. To combat the effects of racism we initiated an affirmative action program (I'm not saying this was not necessary). Scholarships, organizations, colleges, business loans, housing, etc. can benefit people based on race IF the person is of a minority race. People of a majority race (nation wide, not by actual area) can be discriminated against because of their race.

So in the past there was "white privilege" which set up a minority of white people to succeed. In the present there is "minority privilege", which affords opportunities to people based on race.

This breeds hostility all around. One side sees an advantage the other side has/ had while being blind to the opportunities they have. Then the politicians step in.

In a perfect world people would not identify with race. Christians don't (we have died to the flesh and are one race). But the world is what it is.
 
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Just another form of hate, separation of our fellow man

I've seen it of all peoples
It comes in all flavors

Afro, Euro, Hispanic, Asian, Anglo
It's alive and well

I was pretty well castigated in other countries

Best to be Christian about it
A good example, like our Lord

It's quite easy to look down on things
Looking up takes a bit of prayerful effort
 
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And since these acts have not been been remedied neither will racism in the age of satan and man

Nicely stated.

As long as we have the world of sin, we're stuck with these things. As long as we live in bodies of flesh, we're going to be struggling against sin, both inside & out.
 
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In a perfect world people would not identify with race. Christians don't (we have died to the flesh and are one race). But the world is what it is.

Point taken, but we're not in a perfect world as you note & Christians do identify with race. It's one of those issues of flesh that some carry with them that they need to struggle against. It would be interesting to meet a human being, Christian or not, who's eyes don't see the differences in skin color, the shape of eyes, other physical features stemming from heritage, the modes of dress, etc., and whose ears don't hear differences in speech, and so on...

Our new existence will be something we can barely begin to fathom.
 
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Not while the Democrat party continues to incessantly foster it, as it's been doing for nearly 200 years.

Well, the Democratic Party did foster racism around the time of the Civil War and shortly after as well. The Democratic Party was primarily in control in the slave holding states that had a vested interest in slavery and subsequently in keeping former slaves down. But the people in those areas have now switched parties. The former slave states are now the stronghold of the Republican Party. This transition happened during the time period around 1964 with the passage of the Civil Rights Act mostly by Northern Democrats. The Southern Democrats did not like that and they began to switch to the Republican Party, which historically was the party of Lincoln and freeing the slaves. The Republican Party of 1860 was the liberal party, bringing in new ideas of freeing the slaves. The Democratic Party was the conservative party, wanting to hang on to their glorious past as slave holders. Now the situation is totally flipped. The Republicans are now the conservatives and the Democrats are the liberals and the party that has taken up the traditional Republican banner of fighting racism. So we must distinguish between the parties of 1860 and the parties today.
 
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The Democratic Party was primarily in control in the slave holding states that had a vested interest in slavery and subsequently in keeping former slaves down. But the people in those areas have now switched parties.
No, they haven't. The Democratic Party is to this day the home of every sort of institutionalized bigotry. Everything is framed divisively. They pit color against color and sex against sex even when color and sex have nothing to do with it, are masters at fomenting the worst sorts of class envy, and fabricate absurd accusations of bigotry against anyone who dares to oppose them. It's so deeply embedded in the ideology of the party that they're deaf and blind to it even when their bigotry is screaming in everyone's face; it's a diseased thinking that's taken such a hold that they've gone mad - and that's the charitable thing to say, because the alternative is that they're doing it knowingly, with malice aforethought.
 
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No, they haven't. The Democratic Party is to this day the home of every sort of institutionalized bigotry. Everything is framed divisively. They pit color against color and sex against sex even when color and sex have nothing to do with it, are masters at fomenting the worst sorts of class envy, and fabricate absurd accusations of bigotry against anyone who dares to oppose them. It's so deeply embedded in the ideology of the party that they're deaf and blind to it even when their bigotry is screaming in everyone's face; it's a diseased thinking that's taken such a hold that they've gone mad - and that's the charitable thing to say, because the alternative is that they're doing it knowingly, with malice aforethought.
We should all join the angelic GOP?
 
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....even when color and sex have nothing to do with it......
Right there we see the problem with racism. Those who are not the victims of racism continually deny the existence of racism. There was a time when being racist was fashionable. People could be overt about their racism and still be accepted into society. But today it is not fashionable to express racism openly. As a consequence, those who insist on harboring racist perspectives resort to ploys like this, claiming that the fact the average blacks households of only 1/7 the wealth of the average white household has absolutely nothing to do with racism. It is just the way it is. Nobody is to blame for it. It's not racism at all. It is just a massive coincidence - just like the statistics about blacks killed by police and blacks being incarcerated for drug crimes. It must be that blacks tend to do drugs and commit crimes, like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. They had it coming to them. We are not racist at all. Everyone has an equal chance to make a good life. It is just that blacks, for some reason, seem to fail at that more than anyone else. Just a coincidence, I suppose. Yup. That's how racism lives on today.
 
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Right there we see the problem with racism. Those who are not the victims of racism continually deny the existence of racism.
Right here we see the proof of what I said: when one observes that not everything is caused by racism, it gets twisted into a bizarre accusation of denial that racism exists. Everything is seen in the light of class distinction, and anyone who disagrees with the party line must therefore be some sort of bigot.

Thanks for proving my point so well. Racism absolutely exists, and in the US it's most at home in the Democratic party.

We should all join the angelic GOP?
See, there you go proving my point as well.
 
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