Did Jesus give us an Eleventh Commandment?

[guevaraj]

Brothers and sisters, happy Sabbath that begins this Friday, September 23, 2022 at 11:34 am EDT! Here is the passage that gives us an Eleventh Commandment with the phrase "one thing" that you have not done, after answering the question with: you know "the commandments". Jesus' answer makes the "one thing" you haven't done an additional commandment. Consistent with us knowing the additional commandment in the new covenant of following Jesus' example.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

The new Eleventh Commandment was not possible before Jesus, as we could not have "followed" the example of Jesus' life before His arrival, allowing us to "surpass" the glory of the previous Ten Commandments by Jesus' example, as superior to commandments given without an exemplary life to follow. Judaism sabotaged God's commandments by adding their own laws in a "human effort", as in the story of Hagar, to fulfill God's promise of separating sin from our character thanks to the cycle of forgiveness of our High Priest in the temple in heaven.

He has enabled us to be ministers of his new covenant (Eleven Commandments). This is a covenant not of written laws (Ten Commandments), but of the Spirit (reminding us to follow the exemplary life of Jesus). The old written covenant ends in death (sabotaged by human effort as in the story of Hagar); but under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life (reminding us to follow the exemplary life of Jesus). The old way, with laws etched in stone (Ten Commandments), led to death (sabotaged by human effort as in the story of Hagar), though it began with such glory that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses’ face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away. Shouldn’t we expect far greater glory under the new way (Eleven Commandments), now that the Holy Spirit is giving life (reminding us to follow the exemplary life of Jesus)? If the old way (Ten Commandments), which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new way (Eleven Commandments), which makes us right with God! In fact, that first glory was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory of the new way (Eleven Commandments). So if the old way (Ten Commandments), which has been replaced, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new (Eleven Commandments), which remains forever! (2 Corinthians 3:6-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Pavel Mosko]

If your asking about the traditional Christian practice of things has almost nothing to do with the OP, how it is framed etc.

 

[guevaraj]

If your asking about the traditional Christian practice of things has almost nothing to do with the OP, how it is framed etc.

Brother, I am asking whether you see Jesus' "new commandment" in the following passage as an additional Eleventh Commandment or as a replacement to the Ten Commandments? How do you read Jesus' answer to the question "what should I do to inherit eternal life?"

As soon as Judas left the room, Jesus said, “The time has come for the Son of Man to enter into his glory, and God will be glorified because of him. And since God receives glory because of the Son, he will give his own glory to the Son, and he will do so at once. Dear children, I will be with you only a little longer. And as I told the Jewish leaders, you will search for me, but you can’t come where I am going. So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” (John 13:31-35 NLT)​

This "new commandment" above to "follow" Jesus' example with "Just as I have" is the additional new Eleventh Commandment below as the "there is still one thing you haven't done", which was not possible before Jesus.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?”“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sixth day at the time that I write this.

Jesus tells the religious leader to sell his stuff and give the money to the poor. He tells his disciples to love each other like he loved them.

imo, That's a cut above. Is it an 11th commandment? I suppose it depends how you number them. Like 1 John 2 talks about, these things were from the beginning.

United in loving one another as he loved us!

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Brother, I am asking whether you see Jesus' "new commandment" in the following passage as an additional Eleventh Commandment or as a replacement to the Ten Commandments? How do you read Jesus' answer to the question "what should I do to inherit eternal life?"

As soon as Judas left the room, Jesus said, “The time has come for the Son of Man to enter into his glory, and God will be glorified because of him. And since God receives glory because of the Son, he will give his own glory to the Son, and he will do so at once. Dear children, I will be with you only a little longer. And as I told the Jewish leaders, you will search for me, but you can’t come where I am going. So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” (John 13:31-35 NLT)​

This "new commandment" above to "follow" Jesus' example is the additional new Eleventh Commandment below as the "one thing" you haven't done, which was not possible before Jesus.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?”“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

No New Commandment

1 John 3:4 us
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law

Romans 13 King James Version

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

10 commandments = Love

Therefore the commandment to Love has been with us sinse the beggining

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Has anyone kept this?
"Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor"

 

[John Owen]

No, it is not an eleventh commandment. Paul the Apostle said in Romans 6, you are not under law, but under grace. The law does not apply to us as Christians.

 

[guevaraj]

No, it is not an eleventh commandment. Paul the Apostle said in Romans 6, you are not under law, but under grace. The law does not apply to us as Christians.

Brother, Paul is reminding the early church of the primarily law-abiding Jews from their youth as the "part" of Israel that does not "harden" to Jesus to allow for the slow growth under grace of the new Gentiles who are turning to God as they listen to the law of Moses every Sabbath, Gentiles who have not had the benefit of growing in obedience to the law from their youth as they have. Paul is also against the added human laws that Jesus frees us from, such as not pronouncing the name of God so as not to misuse His name. Not using God's name in vain was difficult to overcome with the slow animal sacrifices, so the Jews avoided dealing with this law by adding their own law not to pronounce His name. Such human laws of avoidance are no longer necessary under the quicker forgiveness of Jesus as our High Priest, allowing further growth that had been sabotaged by the human law of avoidance of not uttering God's name at all.

It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath. (Acts 15:19-21 NIV)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Brother, I am asking whether you see Jesus' "new commandment" in the following passage as an additional Eleventh Commandment or as a replacement to the Ten Commandments? How do you read Jesus' answer to the question "what should I do to inherit eternal life?"

The notion that "Christ changed the commandment" is a notion that comes out of the Reformation. John Calvin was the first to put it that way, if my memory is right (read something recently).


Traditional Christians previously did "observe the Sabbath", as a lesser holy day of the week coming from Judaism. Overall Christians descending largely from a gentile background realized their identity was in Christ, and began worshipping on the 8th Day aka Sunday at some point in very, very, early in Christian History (most likely AD 100 or earlier). Because this was the day the Lord was raised, and was an important day in Judaism as well.

Parasha Shemini (Eighth): New Beginnings | Messianic Bible



I will conclude, and say, I am aware of certain sects teaching that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast and the kindest thing I can say about that is it an "innovation" that came from the 1800s America....

 

[John Owen]

The notion that "Christ changed the commandment" is a notion that comes out of the Reformation. John Calvin was the first to put it that way, if my memory is right (read something recently).


Traditional Christians previously did "observe the Sabbath", as a lesser holy day of the week coming from Judaism. Overall Christians descending largely from a gentile background realized their identity was in Christ, and began worshipping on the 8th Day aka Sunday at some point in very, very, early in Christian History (most likely AD 100 or earlier). Because this was the day the Lord was raised, and was an important day in Judaism as well.

Parasha Shemini (Eighth): New Beginnings | Messianic Bible



I will conclude, and say, I am aware of certain sects teaching that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast and the kindest thing I can say about that is it an "innovation" that came from the 1800s America....

Many of the Reformed Confessions are Sabbatarian, they rest of Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, and they were formed in the United Kingdom (Westminster Confession) in the 17th century.

 

[guevaraj]

No New Commandment 1 John 3:4 us Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law Romans 13 King James Version 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. 10 commandments = Love Therefore the commandment to Love has been with us sinse the beggining

Brother, happy Sabbath! The demands of the commandments have been "surpassed" by Jesus! There was a minimum of Ten Commandments, summarized by the two greatest commandments. Jesus made three of His commandments more demanding in the new covenant and added an Eleventh Commandment for a total of Eleven Commandments as the minimum love that God wants us to show God and neighbors.

“You have heard that our ancestors were told, ‘You must not murder. If you commit murder, you are subject to judgment.’ But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell. (Matthew 5:21-22 NLT)​

Above the 5th commandment and below the 7th commandment.

“You have heard the commandment that says, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. (Matthew 5:27-30 NLT)​

Above the 7th commandment and below the 4th commandment, where "another day of rest still to come", refer to the Sabbath not as the seventh day of the week everywhere, but the seventh day of the creation week remembered in the creation time zone.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

After surpassing the previous requirements of the three commandments above, Jesus added an 11th commandment below. What is "new" about this added commandment is that we have the life and ministry of Jesus as an example to imitate. In this commandment, Jesus is our example of how to love, but before having Jesus as an example, God gave Ten Commandments for the minimum love He wanted us to show God and neighbors.

So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” (John 13:34-35 NLT)​

The same word above for commandment in the singular is used in plural below.

“If you love me, obey my commandments. (John 14:15 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

Has anyone kept this?
"Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor"

Brother, happy Sabbath! I can think of missionaries. However, giving "everything I have to the poor" is not an act of love in the following passage and all the commandments tell us how to love, disqualifying it as the "one thing you haven't done". The "one thing you haven't done" is the newly known additional Eleventh Commandment of the new covenant, to "follow" the example of Jesus, which was not possible before Jesus.

If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing. (1 Corinthians 13:1-3 NLT)​

Giving "everything I have to the poor" above is not an act of love for it to qualify as the additional new Eleventh Commandment in the passage below, where the known new Eleventh Commandment is to "follow" the example of Jesus.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

Brother, happy Sixth day at the time that I write this. Jesus tells the religious leader to sell his stuff and give the money to the poor. He tells his disciples to love each other like he loved them. imo, That's a cut above. Is it an 11th commandment? I suppose it depends how you number them. Like 1 John 2 talks about, these things were from the beginning. United in loving one another as he loved us!

Brother, happy Sabbath! The goal has been with us since the beginning, but Jesus demands more now than before. The following is a summary of what is achieved by the commandments. They do not tell you how to love God and neighbors like the actual commandments they summarize. These two are different from the Eleventh Commandment in that the Eleventh does actually show us how to love by giving us an example of how to love God and neighbors in the life and ministry of Jesus. The two greatest commandments are the goals and not how to achieve the goals that Jesus has "surpassed" by demanding more from us than prior to His coming in the Eleventh Commandment.

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40 NLT)​

The fact that Jesus made three of the Ten Commandments more demanding shows that they continued in the new covenant when He added the new Eleventh Commandment. What is "new" about this added commandment is that we have the life and ministry of Jesus as an example to imitate. In this new commandment, Jesus is our example of how to love, but before having Jesus as an example, God gave Ten Commandments for the minimum love He wanted us to show God and neighbors.

So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. (John 13:34 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

Traditional Christians previously did "observe the Sabbath", as a lesser holy day of the week coming from Judaism.

Many of the Reformed Confessions are Sabbatarian, they rest of Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, and they were formed in the United Kingdom (Westminster Confession) in the 17th century.

Brothers, happy Sabbath! Jesus did not rise on Sunday. Everywhere in the New Testament, where a passage is translated as referring to Sunday, it actually refers to Saturday. The first day of the week is not mentioned at all in the New Testament. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls 12 hours earlier than the seventh day of the week. God taught Joshua for 40 years in the desert near the Promised Land that keeping the seventh day of the week, does not enter the Sabbath, being 12 hours late in the Promised Land. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls and takes halves between Friday and Saturday, so you only get half of a Friday and half of a Saturday in the Promised Land, with a Sabbath taking halves between those two days, giving us the following order: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sabbath, and Saturday, the Sabbath being an eighth division in the seven-day week.

The "evening" ending the Sabbath in the Promised Land is part of Saturday, as shown in the passage below where God uses an "expression" that was not previously understood: "the first of the Sabbaths". This "expression" refers to the first Sabbath of creation week or another way of saying the seventh day of the week that we call Saturday. I will use Saturday for the seventh day as different from the Sabbath, which is separate from the seventh day in the Promised Land, to correct the translation of this "expression" of God. Here, "as it dawns beyond Saturday" refers to the end of the second half of Saturday, the night half from evening to morning, where Jesus rose on a Saturday night after the Sabbath in the Promised Land and before the morning begins Sunday, as the days of creation are corrected from human tradition since Joshua in the message of the "day" of rest in Hebrews.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[John Owen]

The first day of the week is not mentioned at all in the New Testament.

Not true.
1 Cor 16:2
On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

Rev 1:10
On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

 

[Leaf473]

Has anyone kept this?
"Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor"

I haven't done it, I've heard of people doing it. A long time ago, I caught the tail end of a documentary about someone named Mary Knoll, I think it was. I think she sold everything and moved into a monastery.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I haven't done it, I've heard of people doing it. A long time ago, I caught the tail end of a documentary about someone named Mary Knoll, I think it was. I think she sold everything and moved into a monastery.

I think Jesus was again using hyperbole as a wake up call. In contrast to prosperity Gospel and contemporary consumerism.

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath! The goal has been with us since the beginning, but Jesus demands more now than before. The following is a summary of what is achieved by the commandments. They do not tell you how to love God and neighbors like the actual commandments they summarize. These two are different from the Eleventh Commandment in that the Eleventh does actually show us how to love by giving us an example of how to love God and neighbors in the life and ministry of Jesus. The two greatest commandments are the goals and not how to achieve the goals that Jesus has "surpassed" by demanding more from us than prior to His coming in the Eleventh Commandment.

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40 NLT)​

The fact that Jesus made three of the Ten Commandments more demanding shows that they continued in the new covenant when He added the new Eleventh Commandment. What is "new" about this added commandment is that we have the life and ministry of Jesus as an example to imitate. In this new commandment, Jesus is our example of how to love, but before having Jesus as an example, God gave Ten Commandments for the minimum love He wanted us to show God and neighbors.

So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. (John 13:34 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, happy Sabbath! I don't think anything in the law of Moses fully tells us how to love our neighbor as ourselves. In the story that Jesus tells related to that commandment, the Good Samaritan, the Samaritan goes beyond what is stated in the law.

United in seeking God!

 

[guevaraj]

Not true. 1 Cor 16:2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

Brother, again as in the previous post, God uses the expression that was not previously understood: "the first of the Sabbaths". This expression refers to the first Sabbath of creation week or another way of saying the seventh day of the week that we call Saturday.

Every Saturday, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned. Don’t wait until I get there and then try to collect it all at once. (1 Corinthians 16:2 NLT fixed)​

Rev 1:10
On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

Jesus tells us in the following passage what the Lord's Day is: the Jewish Sabbath.

For the Son of Man is Lord, even over the Sabbath! (Matthew 12:8 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

Brother, happy Sabbath! I don't think anything in the law of Moses fully tells us how to love our neighbor as ourselves. In the story that Jesus tells related to that commandment, the Good Samaritan, the Samaritan goes beyond what is stated in the law. United in seeking God!

Brother, you can certainly love more, as Jesus has shown by surpassing the demands of three of the commandments in the new covenant and adding the Eleventh Commandment, but the Ten Commandments were the minimum love God wanted us to show under the slower cycle of forgiveness with animal sacrifices compared to Jesus' greater demand under His faster cycle of forgiveness as our High Priest. We are not automatically forgiven by the death of Jesus, we are forgiven when we turn to Jesus as our High Priest to "intercede" for us. Repeated is this cycle until separated is all sins from our character. This cycle after Jesus is faster and eternal compared to animal sacrifices, which clearly showed the repetition until removed is all sin from us.

Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. For the law appoints as high priests men in all their weakness; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever. (Hebrews 7:25-28 NIV)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge