FBI investigation data in Rollingstone article

[essentialsaltes]

Your attempt to deflect blame for BLM actions isn't going to work tonight.

There is plenty of blame for rioters associated with those demonstrations as well.

 

[DaisyDay]

How about Americans who voted for Donald Trump for president?

No, that is way too broad, too inclusive. What is the preferred term for MAGA extremists?

 

[Aldebaran]

That is not the topic of conversation. We're talking about antigovernment extremists.

Ah, so now those who want to see America be great again are "anti-government extremists", huh? Well, when even mothers who attend school board meetings are referred to as "terrorists", it's understandable if not everyone shares your new definitions of words.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, that is way too broad, too inclusive. What is the preferred term for MAGA extremists?

American citizens.

 

[DaisyDay]

Do you realize how much people hate Trump? But that's okay.

Sure, but disliking or even hating Trump doesn’t translate to loving Biden. It’s just not as binary as that.

 

[Aldebaran]

Sure, but disliking or even hating Trump doesn’t translate to loving Biden. It’s just not as binary as that.

I think you'd get some disagreement among those who said they voted for biden only because they hated Trump.

 

[DaisyDay]

American citizens.

No, that’s more broad and less descriptive. What is the preferred term for a MAGA extremist, for those willing to attack the government for his sake?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Ah, so now those who want to see America be great again are "anti-government extremists", huh?

Stop cramming words into my face. I know it's politically useful to say that Biden has declared people with red hats public enemy #1, but that's just a pernicious lie.

Well, when even mothers who attend school board meetings are referred to as "terrorists"

If they were the ones who issued death threats to school board members, then the shoe fits. Those are anti-government extremists.

 

[DaisyDay]

I think you'd get some disagreement among those who said they voted for biden only because they hated Trump.

No, that’s just it - if they only voted for Biden because they hated Trump, then it is because they hate Trump and not because they love Biden.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, that’s more broad and less descriptive. What is the preferred term for a MAGA extremist, for those willing to attack the government for his sake?

Preferred by who? Those with hate in their heart will come up with whatever name makes them feel good by demonizing someone they don't like. For biden, the label of "semi-fascist" seemed good enough to make an entire speech about.

 

[Aldebaran]

Stop cramming words into my face. I know it's politically useful to say that Biden has declared people with red hats public enemy #1, but that's just a pernicious lie.

Excuse me, but those were your own words. I didn't cram them into your face. I simply repeated them back to you.

 

[DaisyDay]

Preferred by who? Those with hate in their heart will come up with whatever name makes them feel good by demonizing someone they don't like. For biden, the label of "semi-fascist" seemed good enough to make an entire speech about.

Preferred by you, obvs, since you were the one that objected to the term I used. What should we call the MAGA extremists to distinguish them from mere Trump MAGA enthusiasts?

 

[Aldebaran]

Preferred by you, obvs, since you were the one that objected to the term I used. What should we call the MAGA extremists to distinguish them from mere Trump enthusiasts?

Since you want to know what is preferred by me, then I will start by eliminating the word "extremists" from this discussion. It's not a word that people who want to see America become great again are using to describe themselves. It's a word that is meant to marginalize them by those who don't want to see America be great again.

 

[public hermit]

For biden, the label of "semi-fascist" seemed good enough to make an entire speech about

Yeah, but let's be honest, "semi-fascist" was generous.

 

[DaisyDay]

Since you want to know what is preferred by me, then I will start by eliminating the word "extremists" from this discussion. It's not a word that people who want to see America become great again are using to describe themselves. It's a word that is meant to marginalize them by those who don't want to see America be great again.

But it is the extremists we want to refer to. How do we refer to those willing to use violence and threats of violence to accomplish their MAGA goals? Those more than willing to subvert the democratic process to achieve right wing goals? They are not unicorns.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yeah, but let's be honest, "semi-fascist" was generous.

Can you even come up with a definition for it? biden couldn't. Certainly not a "generous" one. In fact, he spent today back-peddling what he was saying last night, so he obviously still doesn't know.

 

[NxNW]

Since you want to know what is preferred by me, then I will start by eliminating the word "extremists" from this discussion. It's not a word that people who want to see America become great again are using to describe themselves. It's a word that is meant to marginalize them by those who don't want to see America be great again.

I'm thinking there are varying definitions of great.

 

[Aldebaran]

But it is the extremists we want to refer to. How do we refer to those willing to use violence and threats of violence to accomplish their MAGA goals? Those more than willing to subvert the democratic process to achieve right wing goals? They are not unicorns.

I'm not willing to sacrifice accuracy by embracing your propaganda buzzwords.
Have a good night.

 

[public hermit]

Can you even come up with a definition for it? biden couldn't. Certainly not a "generous" one. In fact, he spent today back-peddling what he was saying last night, so he obviously still doesn't know.

Fascism is a government controlled by a dictator who seeks to suppress, by whatever means necessary, the opposition. So you're right, he's more semi than actual with his failed coup attempt on Jan. 6th, and all. I take it back, semi-fascist is more accurate. But it really is closer to loser-fascist.

 

[Aldebaran]

Fascism is a government controlled by a dictator who seeks to suppress, by whatever means necessary, the opposition. So you're right, he's more semi than actual with his failed coup attempt on Jan. 6th, and all. I take it back, semi-fascist is more accurate. But it really is closer to loser-fascist.

Fascism is a political system headed by a dictator in which the government controls business and labor and opposition is not permitted.

Exhibit A:
Exclusive: White House working with Facebook and Twitter to tackle anti-vaxxers

Exhibit B:
FBI blasted after Zuckerberg revealed their warning ahead of the Hunter Biden laptop story: ‘Collusion'

Exhibit C:
Pfizer signs new $3.2 billion COVID vaccine deal with U.S. government