Terrorists

[Tellyontellyon]

I saw a thing online about another one of those mass shootings at a store where 10 people were killed.
The guy that did it was concerned about keeping America Christian and White....

How seriously do Christians take the risk of extremism and this sort of modern 'Crusader' mentality from within it's own ranks.
It seems to me Christian terrorism is often seen as a one-off, but there seems to be an upwards trend in this kind of extremist thinking, and unfortunately, violent acts.

*Are Christians taking this seriously and taking enough steps about this sort of thing?
Are we too trusting of Christians?
Do Christians take enough responsibility for their fellow Christians behaviour?

 

[Chesterton]

Do you have a link for a source for this?

 

[Tellyontellyon]

Do you have a link for a source for this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...9/buffalo-shooting-peter-cook-christians-guns

 

[Chesterton]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...9/buffalo-shooting-peter-cook-christians-guns

That link doesn't pull anything up, so I don't know where you're getting your info, but I see you're talking about Buffalo. That guy was crazy as a loon, used to wear full hazmat suits to school. And his writings showed that before settling on the supermarket he considered a church as one of his targets. Strange that a Christian would target a Christian church.

 

[Blade]

"How seriously do Christians take the risk of extremism and this sort of modern 'Crusader' mentality from within it's own ranks." First the word "Christian". Millions in America believe they are a Christian yet are not. Someone does something like this and we duh just believe what they say and maybe made some post or talked about it on face book? "oh sure he shot 10 people but he was no liar".

Just going to say I just did some searching now and .. its shocking whats not being reported. Yeah it not just Christian or white.. just again oddly not in the major news at all.

 

[Ligurian]

I saw a thing online about another one of those mass shootings at a store where 10 people were killed.
The guy that did it was concerned about keeping America Christian and White....

How seriously do Christians take the risk of extremism and this sort of modern 'Crusader' mentality from within it's own ranks.
It seems to me Christian terrorism is often seen as a one-off, but there seems to be an upwards trend in this kind of extremist thinking, and unfortunately, violent acts.

*Are Christians taking this seriously and taking enough steps about this sort of thing?
Are we too trusting of Christians?
Do Christians take enough responsibility for their fellow Christians behaviour?

That's a False Flag.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity, he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword: here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Matthew 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake.[12] Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in Heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

 

[Ligurian]

That link doesn't pull anything up, so I don't know where you're getting your info, but I see you're talking about Buffalo. That guy was crazy as a loon, used to wear full hazmat suits to school. And his writings showed that before settling on the supermarket he considered a church as one of his targets. Strange that a Christian would target a Christian church.

Which is the Wheat and which are Tares?

Matthew 13:24-30.

 

[com7fy8]

I saw a thing online about another one of those mass shootings at a store where 10 people were killed.
The guy that did it was concerned about keeping America Christian and White....

How seriously do Christians take the risk of extremism and this sort of modern 'Crusader' mentality from within it's own ranks.
It seems to me Christian terrorism is often seen as a one-off, but there seems to be an upwards trend in this kind of extremist thinking, and unfortunately, violent acts.

*Are Christians taking this seriously and taking enough steps about this sort of thing?
Are we too trusting of Christians?
Do Christians take enough responsibility for their fellow Christians behaviour?

Jesus says you will know a person by one's fruits. And murder is not a fruit of a child of God.

"Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15)

So, a hate killer is not a fellow Christian.

But we be a good example of how to love, with every person. Personal example can do more than activism and blaming Christians for what enemies of God do.

One tactic of terrorism is to flood an economy with counterfeit money, in order to discredit real money. Like this, Satan has fake Christians do things to give Christianity a bad name, plus people blaming Christians for what the counterfeits do.​

 

[dqhall]

I saw a thing online about another one of those mass shootings at a store where 10 people were killed.
The guy that did it was concerned about keeping America Christian and White....

How seriously do Christians take the risk of extremism and this sort of modern 'Crusader' mentality from within it's own ranks.
It seems to me Christian terrorism is often seen as a one-off, but there seems to be an upwards trend in this kind of extremist thinking, and unfortunately, violent acts.

*Are Christians taking this seriously and taking enough steps about this sort of thing?
Are we too trusting of Christians?
Do Christians take enough responsibility for their fellow Christians behaviour?

Joseph Stalin hated the religious. He had Christians arrested and put in prison work camps called gulags. According to the Nobel Prize winning author Alexandre Solzhenitsyn, many who were given two consecutive seven year sentences died of hunger and exposure to the cold in Soviet Union era Siberian gulag labor camps. Should we not trust atheists?

 

[Tellyontellyon]

Should we not trust atheists?

That is ignoring the issue of white/Christian terrorism... Your defensive deflecting of the issue rather proves my point.
There are terrorists of every political and religious hue (including Buddhists), but Christian terrorists are not given the attention that is required. Or their behaviour is attributed to insanity, or the racism aspect is given coverage, but the Christian aspect is ignored.
This downplaying of the religious aspect doesn't happen with e.g. Muslim shooters.

 

[Chesterton]

That is ignoring the issue of white/Christian terrorism... Your defensive deflecting of the issue rather proves my point.
There are terrorists of every political and religious hue (including Buddhists), but Christian terrorists are not given the attention that is required. Or their behaviour is attributed to insanity, or the racism aspect is given coverage, but the Christian aspect is ignored.
This downplaying of the religious aspect doesn't happen with e.g. Muslim shooters.

Please respond to my post #4, with sources, or I will officially declare you to be "fake news".

 

[Tellyontellyon]

Please respond to my post #4, with sources, or I will officially declare you to be "fake news".

This is a quote from the article I posted.
"Payton Gendron, wanted to fashion America as a white-dominated, Christian nation."

But I'm sure 5 min on Google will pull up lots of stuff about him, including his agenda. However, the threat of you declaring 'fake news' is funny... Do you really think your 'declaration' is so important to me or anybody else? Pride is a sin in your religion I believe?

 

[Chesterton]

This is a quote from the article I posted.
"Payton Gendron, wanted to fashion America as a white-dominated, Christian nation."

Who wrote that?

But I'm sure 5 min on Google will pull up lots of stuff about him, including his agenda.

Yes, less than 5 min were needed to learn that he had considered attacking a Christian church.

However, the threat of you declaring 'fake news' is funny... Do you really think your 'declaration' is so important to me or anybody else? Pride is a sin in your religion I believe?

No, I think determining whether you are fake news is important to me. I'm a big fan of truth over non-truth.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

Who wrote that?

Screenshot from the actual article I posted gives you the information about the writer of the article. The Guardian is a well respected newspaper btw.

The fact that he considered attacking a church doesn't mean he wasn't trying to make America more Christian... He also wanted to kill lots of black people... other white supremacists have attacked churches... He wants a white Christian America, not a black Christian America.... He's an extremist, don't expect his logic to work like yours....

If you want to know the truth, at least read the article I posted before asking for the information that I had already given you.

Now.... Why so quick to try to dismiss his Christian agenda? Are you part of the problem? Is your 'quick to deflect' attitude providing a safe space for terrorists to spread their agenda unchecked?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I saw a thing online about another one of those mass shootings at a store where 10 people were killed.
The guy that did it was concerned about keeping America Christian and White....

How seriously do Christians take the risk of extremism and this sort of modern 'Crusader' mentality from within it's own ranks.
It seems to me Christian terrorism is often seen as a one-off, but there seems to be an upwards trend in this kind of extremist thinking, and unfortunately, violent acts.

*Are Christians taking this seriously and taking enough steps about this sort of thing?
Are we too trusting of Christians?
Do Christians take enough responsibility for their fellow Christians behaviour?

As you know there is extremist behavior on all sides.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

As you know there is extremist behavior on all sides.

Yes, but the point is that Christian extremism is barely mentioned and that may be a problem.

 

[dqhall]

That is ignoring the issue of white/Christian terrorism... Your defensive deflecting of the issue rather proves my point.
There are terrorists of every political and religious hue (including Buddhists), but Christian terrorists are not given the attention that is required. Or their behaviour is attributed to insanity, or the racism aspect is given coverage, but the Christian aspect is ignored.
This downplaying of the religious aspect doesn't happen with e.g. Muslim shooters.

If you look at the FBI statistics you should find blacks are more likely to murder than whites. Blacks murder whites more than whites murder blacks on a per capita basis.

Most murders are solved. The person who does the killing knows the victim and is not a stranger.

You seem to have a bias against white Christians.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

You seem to have a bias against white Christians.

I'm talking about religion and race motivated terrorist acts, not run of the mill murders. Typical murders happen everyday in the US, but I'm talking about something different.
Why the unwillingness to talk about it? There are terrorists killing in the name of Christ... even if it is dwarfed by other types of killing... it still deserves a attention. I'm not saying all Christian terrorists are white either, but there does seem to be a section of Christian terrorists who overlap with the white power idiots.
I'm not biased, I just want to see if Christians are bothered by people being killed for Christianity and if they think enough is being done, by Christian churches, to weed it out.

Why are so many people so defensive?

 

[dqhall]

I'm talking about religion and race motivated terrorist acts, not run of the mill murders. Typical murders happen everyday in the US, but I'm talking about something different.
Why the unwillingness to talk about it? There are terrorists killing in the name of Christ... even if it is dwarfed by other types of killing... it still deserves a attention. I'm not saying all Christian terrorists are white either, but there does seem to be a section of Christian terrorists who overlap with the white power idiots.
I'm not biased, I just want to see if Christians are bothered by people being killed for Christianity and if they think enough is being done, by Christian churches, to weed it out.

Why are so many people so defensive?

I suppose you have not lived in SW Washington, DC. There was chronic gang warfare including drive by shootings, witness intimidation, armed robbery, etc. It is a predominately black neighborhood in a city with a black mayor.

An Asian man entered a California church with a mixed race congregation. He started shooting. A doctor tackled him and was shot dead. The doctor saved the lives of others in attendance who subdued the shooter. What are you supposed to do to put an end to murders?
California church leaders, shooting survivors join in prayer

 

[Lukaris]

Extremism in America is starting to go out of control and it takes many forms. The psychological climate of today often makes it difficult to discuss matters in regards to human identities, religion, politics etc. when the intent of the conversation is often peaceful.

Since the OP is looking at America externally, I am going to post info on a consistent form of terrorism in America. The incidents should be well known; it is not my intent to stigmatize anyone or anything. My question is it possible there are selective levels of immediate news coverage and what is often committed to greater memory.



Boston Marathon bombing - Wikipedia


2015 San Bernardino attack - Wikipedia


Orlando nightclub shooting - Wikipedia


The current US government seems to promote the threat of right wing terrorism and often considers Trump to be backing right wing terrorism. The thing is, as the previous incidents show, they seem pretty incompetent. The terrorism occurred when the current US president was Vice President. When Trump was president a major right wing terrorist plot was foiled:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...-bomb-plot-targeting-muslim-community-in-new/

When the psychological focus was on law and order, instead of divisiveness, prior to the Covid 19 pandemic, crime was dropping slightly under Trump whereas it was previously rising a lot.

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