What Specific Evidence Should Point To Ex Nihilo Creation?

[sjastro]

That dishonest professionals removed the evidence of Hurricane Katrina for sanitary and safety reasons?

As usual you are not making much sense.
Did you consider a global flood reducing the numbers of human and animal life to a handful would take time to rebound (if this was even possible) to its original state.
Yet where is the gap in human and animal remains in the period after the flood or even the archeological evidence of a disruption of civilizations at the time such as Egyptian or Sumerian.
Of course God might have engaged in a bit of spontaneous regeneration or worse still apart of removing evidence of the flood he would also have to address the gap by planting false evidence.

The evidence of a global catastrophe came around 250 million years before the global flood.
This was the Permian extinction.

The Permian–Triassic (P–T, P–Tr)[3][4] extinction event, also known as the End-Permian Extinction[5] and colloquially as the Great Dying,[6] formed the boundary between the Permian and Triassic geologic periods, as well as between the Paleozoic and Mesozoic eras, approximately 251.9 million years ago.[7] It is the Earth's most severe known extinction event, with the extinction of 57% of biological families, 83% of genera, 81% of marine species[8][9][10] and 70% of terrestrial vertebrate species.[11] It was the largest known mass extinction of insects.

If God was responsible for this mass extinction he certainly didn't go to any lengths to cover it up as there is a gap in the fossil record as the Permian layers abounds with fossils where as in the immediate Triassic layer the fossil record is essentially zero only to recover later on.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Looks clean to me.

God's handiwork looks a lot like human effort... Fancy that.

 

[AV1611VET]

God's handiwork looks a lot like human effort... Fancy that.

Would you know the difference?

 

[Bradskii]

Would you know the difference?

Why is it that when someone makes a quite reasonable and indisputable comment that highlights the fact that you haven't remotely supported any particular claim that you've made, instead of addressing the point in question, we always get that comment?

Maybe you don't realise what it signifies to most people...

 

[AV1611VET]

Why is it that when someone makes a quite reasonable and indisputable comment that highlights the fact that you haven't remotely supported any particular claim that you've made, instead of addressing the point in question, we always get that comment?

Maybe you don't realise what it signifies to most people...

The person in question that I'm replying to should know the difference quite well by now.

He knows I'm talking about God cleaning up something (the Flood) Himself, vs people cleaning up after a natural disaster (Hurricane Katrina).

Had God cleaned it up like He did the Flood, then unless what happened was meticulously documented, future generations would have trouble believing it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Would you know the difference?

Better than you would.

 

[Bradskii]

The person in question that I'm replying to should know the difference quite well by now.

He knows I'm talking about God cleaning up something (the Flood) Himself, vs people cleaning up after a natural disaster (Hurricane Katrina).

Had God cleaned it up like He did the Flood, then unless what happened was meticulously documented, future generations would have trouble believing it.

There's a small village called Ockham in Surrey. The Formula One Tyrrell team used to have their HQ there. A guy called William lived there in the 13th century. You should look him up.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

That dishonest professionals removed the evidence of Hurricane Katrina for sanitary and safety reasons?

Did those dishonest professionals claim that, despite the evidence that still exists, there was no hurricane but that they built New Orleans ex-nihilo overnight, created all the plant and animal life in a mature state and finally poofed the population into being?

 

[AV1611VET]

Did those dishonest professionals claim that, despite the evidence that still exists, there was no hurricane but that they built New Orleans ex-nihilo overnight, created all the plant and animal life in a mature state and finally poofed the population into being?

NOW do you see the difference between God cleaning up something, and mankind doing it?

Question: Would you rather have God clean up after Katrina, or let us do it ourselves?

I have a feeling that, had God cleaned up after Katrina like He did the Flood, you guys wouldn't be so quick to label Him "deceptive."

 

[ottawak]

Had God cleaned it up like He did the Flood, then unless what happened was meticulously documented, future generations would have trouble believing it.

And there God apparently made a mistake, because He did not meticulously document it.

 

[AV1611VET]

And there God apparently made a mistake, because He did not meticulously document it.

Nope -- we don't know what He did, when He did it, why He did it, where He did it, how He did it, what order He did it in, how long it lasted, how He cleaned it up, why He cleaned it up, or who the eyewitnesses were -- do we?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Nope -- we don't know what He did, when He did it, why He did it, where He did it, how He did it, what order He did it in, how long it lasted, how He cleaned it up, why He cleaned it up, or who the eyewitnesses were -- do we?

Nope -- we just have the self-important ramblings of people who claim to know...

 

[ottawak]

Nope -- we don't know what He did, when He did it, why He did it, where He did it, how He did it, what order He did it in, how long it lasted, how He cleaned it up, why He cleaned it up, or who the eyewitnesses were -- do we?

No. All we have is an account written up in the literary form of a legendary story.

 

[TLK Valentine]

No. All we have is an account written up in the literary form of a legendary story.

And the people trying to peddle it to us as truth have already admitted that they have "nothing."

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope -- we just have the self-important ramblings of people who claim to know...

Perhaps they know the difference between divine cleanup and "wise-men" cleanup?

 

[AV1611VET]

No. All we have is an account written up in the literary form of a legendary story.

Just don't tell me He didn't "meticulously document it" and expect me to believe you.

 

[AV1611VET]

And the people trying to peddle it to us as truth have already admitted that they have "nothing."

It's called "clean up."

Do you know now why we [allegedly] have nothing?

Or do you need it further explained?

 

[ottawak]

Just don't tell me He didn't "meticulously document it" and expect me to believe you.

The question is, why should I believe you?

 

[AV1611VET]

The question is, why should I believe you?

Read it yourself then.

Are you telling me the Flood wasn't meticulously documented in the Bible?

I'm sure even Aron Ra would agree with me on this.

(Not that I care.)

 

[ottawak]

Read it yourself then.

Are you telling me the Flood wasn't meticulously documented in the Bible?

I'm sure even Aron Ra would agree with me on this.

(Not that I care.)

I have read it. It's not "meticulous documentation." It's a narrative written in the literary form of a legendary story.