THE RULE OF FAITH AND PRACTICE IS ALWAYS SCRIPTURE "ALONE" 2

[LoveGodsWord]

I can't believe how obtuse your replies are.

You have your answers already provided to you from the scriptures already from *2 Timothy 3:15-16; Matthew 4:4; Romans 10:17 but you do not believe them while trying to argue that the New testament is not scripture, so I do not know what else can be shared with you. Which is why we would have to agree to disagree if you beleive the new testament and the very words of Jesus are not God's inspired word or scripture. Now you have the answer for yourself already if you believe the new testament and the very words of Jesus are scripture, why get offended if I ask you if you believe that the words of Jesus and new testament is scripture? This alone should answer your questions and objections IMO that the new testament is scripture inspired by God which is the definition of scripture provided in 2 Timothy 3:15-16.

Take Care

 

[concretecamper]

You have your answers already provided to you from the scriptures already from *2 Timothy 3:15-16; Matthew 4:4; Romans 10:17 but you do not believe them while trying to argue that the New testament is not scripture, so I do not know what else can be shared with you. Which is why we would have to agree to disagree if you beleive the new testament and the very words of Jesus are not God's inspired word or scripture. Now you have the answer for yourself already if you believe the new testament and the very words of Jesus are scripture, why get offended if I ask you if you believe that the words of Jesus and new testament is scripture? This alone should answer your questions and objections IMO.

you could have just said "I can't"

 

[LoveGodsWord]

you could have just said "I can't"

Why would I say that. If I said that I would be lying which is why I provided scripture to you showing that all scripture is inspired by God and is not restricted only to the old testament but also includes the new testament scriptures.

 

[timothyu]

Sounds like some think it cannot be official and stand on its own unless some form of government of man says so. God needs man's permission? Perhaps I don't get the point vaguely trying to be made.

 

[concretecamper]

Sounds like some think it cannot be official and stand on its own unless some form of government of man says so. God needs man's permission? Perhaps I don't get the point vaguely trying to be made.

sounds like some think that you can add to God's Word to fit their ideas. So sad

 

[timothyu]

sounds like some think that you can add to God's Word to fit their ideas.

What's to add? From beginning to end God says His will before our own yet we find ways even in Christianity to have it the other way around. What is being added is our interference.

 

[Leaf473]

Hi Leaf isn't it through the scriptures that we know what is true and what is not true *John 3:18-21?

Sure, but it's not the only way.

Galatians 5 says that the deeds of the flesh are obvious.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Sure, but it's not the only way.

Galatians 5 says that the deeds of the flesh are obvious.

God's Words is the only standard of what truth is according to Romans 3:4; John 17:17. The deeds of the flesh are obvious because they are outlined in Gods' Word.

 

[Leaf473]

Hi Leaf isn't it through the scriptures that we know what is true and what is not true *John 3:18-21?

A follow-up observation:

Paul tells the Athenians

'For in him we live, move, and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his offspring.’

Those Greek poets probably didn't have the scriptures God gave to Israel, but they came to know truths about God.

 

[Leaf473]

God's Words is the only standard of what truth is according to Romans 3:4; John 17:17.

I believe those scriptures say that God's word is true and that God is true. I don't believe they say that there are no truths outside of the scriptures, or that all truths about God can only be known through the scriptures.

 

[concretecamper]

What's to add.

I don't think we need to add. But @LoveGodsWord thinks we need to

 

[concretecamper]

From beginning to end God says His will before our own yet we find ways even in Christianity to have it the other way around.

this is a nice definition of Protestantism

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I don't think we need to add. But @LoveGodsWord thinks we need to

Not really. I believe we need to love Gods' Word and believe what Gods' Word says. Not try and teach that the new testament is not scripture or Gods' Word.

 

[concretecamper]

Not really

yes really.

I believe we need to love Gods' Word and believe what Gods' Word says. Not try and teach that the new testament is not scripture or Gods' Word.

then why did you feel the need to add the word(scripture) in your post?

Q2. If faith comes from Gods' Word (the scriptures and Jesus) *Romans 10:17 then how can we have faith or be "in the faith" if we do not believe and follow what Gods' Word says?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

this is a nice definition of Protestantism

Actually is is a definition of those who do not believe and follow God's Word. The protestant reformation was over the Church following man-made teachings and traditions over the Word of God. It is true though that many are returning to the old ways that are against Gods' ways. According to the scriptures Gods' people are in every Church living up to all the light and knowledge that God has revealed to them John 10:16 but the hour is coming and now is that the true worshipers will worship the father in spirit and in truth. God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth *John 4:23-24. God is calling His people where ever they might be to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions and return to the pure Word of God *Revelation 18:1-5. Jesus says (scripture) in Matthew 15:3-9 if we knowingly follow man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God we are not worshiping God. This of course begs the question why do we believe and follow; God or man?

Something to pray about.

 

[timothyu]

this is a nice definition of Protestantism

All sects stuck themselves in as an institution of man trying to control a narrative that needs no controlling. Free enterprise and not of the Kingdom. If it were, it never would have been able to amalgamate with the world of man.

 

[concretecamper]

All sects stuck themselves in as an institution of man trying to control a narrative that needs no controlling. Free enterprise.

ah, Pope @timothyu

 

[LoveGodsWord]

yes really.
then why did you feel the need to add the word(scripture) in your post?

Nope. Only scripture has been provided that shows that all scripture is given by inspiration of God and other scriptures in the new testament showing that according to Jesus we are to live by the scriptures. (2 Timothy 3:15-16; Matthew 4:4; John 17:17 etc) and that our it is our faith in the scriptures that save us from sin (John 17:17; John 8:31-36). All the gospels and the teachings and Jesus and the Apostles in the new testament shows that both the old and new testament are all scripture. I do not know why you think that the new testament is not scripture. I have never met anyone that thinks this way. Are you determined not to believe the scriptures shared with you in order to follow the traditions of your Church over the Word of God? This is a genuine question so that I do not misunderstand your position. This position is not a biblical one according to Peter in Acts of the Apostles 5:29.

Take Care.

 

[timothyu]

ah, Pope @timothyu

???

 

[concretecamper]

Nope

You can deny, but it is there for all to see