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Is the Earth Flat?

Degrees of Earth flatness:

  • It's not flat. It's a giant, spinning spaceball.

    Votes: 90 82.6%
  • It's flat, but all the other planets are giant, spinning spaceballs.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's flat, and a dome surrounds it.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, a dome surrounds it, and the Earth is the center of the universe.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, domed, and planets/stars are actually illusions/objects in the dome.

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • It's all of the above, and the government is covering it all up at the behest of Satan.

    Votes: 8 7.3%

  • Total voters
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In the new earth The New Jerusalem will be 1500 miles high, so if the current earth is close to the new earth. Then the sun, moon and stars have to be at least higher than 1500 miles, so as to not run into The New Jerusalem.

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Foolish scientists with their physics and aeronautics! I debunk you with my belief. The scientific method is a hoax, you can get no reliable information with it.
 
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Why wouldn’t you be able to see all of America from 30 miles up?

America at 2,800 miles wide (east to west), so do you think at 30 miles high you would be able to see 1400 miles.
 
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America at 2,800 miles wide (east to west), so do you think at 30 miles high you would be able to see 1400 miles.

On Google maps you have to be about 250 miles up to see the entire contiguous united states.
 
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If a person is doing a sight curve test, the lower one is to the ground, the more (if the earth was a globe) of the object in the distance should be covered up by the curving earth/ground.
Regardless of whether the earth is flat or spherical, ... the closer to the ground one's line-of-sight begins, ... the easier it is to obscure that line of sight with obstructions ...
 
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America at 2,800 miles wide (east to west), so do you think at 30 miles high you would be able to see 1400 miles.

no at 30 miles high you should only be able to see about 513 miles.
 
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I guess it is not (impossible) if one would have the money to pay to have it done.

It is impossible to make a flat map of the earth that is proportionately scaled. It cannot be done. That’s why the flat earth map doesn’t work because the southern portions of the globe or the outer edges of the flat earth map are extremely disproportionate. For example the southern tip of South America and the southern tip of Africa are about 6-8 times farther apart than they should be. They should be around 4500 miles apart but it ends up being over 27,000 miles apart on the flat earth map. It absolutely cannot be done it’s impossible.
 
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Regardless of whether the earth is flat or spherical, ... the closer to the ground one's line-of-sight begins, ... the easier it is to obscure that line of sight with obstructions ...

That is why when doing photos over a lake for either proving or disproving curvature of water, it is absolutely necessary the water be absolutely calm, no wave ( or a very minimum) motion.
 
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On Google maps you have to be about 250 miles up to see the entire contiguous united states.

Well that is my hang up, i just am not convinced any man created object can go that high. I believe the highest rockets etc.. can go is 30 miles high.
 
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Well that is my hang up, i just am not convinced any man created object can go that high. I believe the highest rockets etc.. can go is 30 miles high.

Why do you believe that? We have airplanes that can fly over 7,000 miles so why do you believe that we can’t reach 250 miles high?
 
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Do you believe the Earth is flat? If so, to what degree do you believe the Earth is flat?
It depends on when.

On the one hand, those locked in the myopic world seeing in only 3 dimensions will inevitably give a temporal and, therefore, a wrong answer. Tralfamadorians, on the other hand, know the earth is not, is dust, is flat, is spherical and back to flat, dust and then is not again and again.
 
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i didn’t say 7,000 miles high I said they can fly 7,000 miles. So why do you believe that we can’t fly 250 miles high?

I believe God has establish limits on how high man can go up. The only exception to this is the angel escort up to heaven.
 
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Why did God prevent the completion of the tower of Babbel? Because man was going too high.

That’s not what’s stated in the scriptures and the planes we have now fly way higher than the Tower of Babel. We also have buildings that would dwarf the Tower of Babel.
 
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That’s not what’s stated in the scriptures and the planes we have now fly way higher than the Tower of Babel.

Building a tower to the heavens.

Sounds pretty high.

Nobody knows how high planes really fly.

And if a plane flies level at a set altitude, that proves a flat earth. If a plane flew level over a so called globe earth, the plane would continue to climb as the ball gets farther away.
 
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