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The Book of Enoch Not Having Any Place in Bible

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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?

There is no "Book of Enoch". The Book of Enoch is actually a series of separate books sort of spliced together. Parts of it are mentioned in the bible but it is not clear which "book" exactly it is referring to. Enoch was not part of the Septuagint so it is not part of the Christian old testament.
 
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The book of Enoch is not part of the cannon of scripture. It is simply not a book which is considered as a source for determining anything doctrinal and it mostly cannot be cross referenced with other books of the cannon of scripture for verifiction. There's a lot of interest in this book, with regard to end times teaching by certain individuals and some religious groups as well.

It's one of those books which makes interesting reading, but as to how trustworthy this book may be is very difficult to determine. It says a lot of strange things!
 
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The book of Enoch is apocrypha, which are false gospels. The Apostles were well aware of their existence:

No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.
~Galatians 1:6-10 (NIV)

Galatians 1 KJV,NKJV,NIV,ICB - Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither - Bible Gateway

Paul and the False Apostles
1 I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me! 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

5 I do not think I am in the least inferior to those “super-apostles.” 6 I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way. 7 Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge? 8 I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you. 9 And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so. 10 As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, nobody in the regions of Achaia will stop this boasting of mine. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do!

12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
~2 Corinthians 11:1-15 (NIV)

2 Cor. 11 KJV,NKJV,NIV,ICB - Would to God ye could bear with me a - Bible Gateway

Enoch and Elijah are commonly believed to be the Two Witnesses in the Book of Revelation. They both die, are resurrected, and brought to Heaven (Rev. 11:1-14). Enoch was "taken away" instead of dying like those before him (Gen. 5:21-24). Elijah is commonly believed, particularly by Jews, to still be walking on the Earth, based on my current understanding. Some believe it's Moses as one of the Two Witnesses, but he's already dead (Deut. 34). The Archangel Michael and Satan even fought over his body (Jude 1:8-10).

The Epistle of Jude says this:

14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
~Jude 1:14-16 (NIV)

Jude 1 KJV,NKJV,NIV,ICB - Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and - Bible Gateway

Because the Epistle of Jude contains much information validating other books, such as 2 Peter 2, the Book of Exodus, and Zechariah 3, some assume the same goes for the book of Enoch. As online fan fiction has proven, however, we're capable of creating elaborate world-building around simple concepts and/or one-scene characters. Someone during that time (especially due to failed carbon dating testing) may have connected this Jude passage with Genesis 6:1-4 to create a false gospel; demonic 'fan' fiction.

In short, the Epistle of Jude wasn't quoting the book of Enoch, it was quoting Enoch himself!

Another thing about canonical books is that they supplement each other, not contradict. I've witnessed people talk about being reincarnations of past people after reading the book of Enoch. Reincarnation is unBiblical: We die once and then face judgment (Heb. 9:27). The Two Witnesses will die and would have to be resurrected in their glorified bodies before going to Heaven as a demonstration (1 Cor. 15:35-58). We are then COMPLETELY, UTTERLY WITHOUT EXCUSE (John 15:18-25, Romans 1:20, 10:14-21)!!! Going by this alone, the book of Enoch clearly contradicts the other canonical books in what it stands for: Eternal life in Heaven, not on Earth.

Fallen angels are named in the book of Enoch. Why? Satan is clearly the ringleader and the face of evil we're up against, so why give any credit to his underlings? These would've been a result of an Alan Smithee-like system Hollywood used to hide the director's true identities after failed workmanship. The same applies to demons acting as pagan gods, like Zeus and Thor (WARNING FROM EXODUS 23:13), when appearing to people (1 Cor. 10:14-22, Ps. 106:34-39).

More research is required, but this is what I have so far. God bless!

On February 15, 2022, at roughly 8:40 PM Eastern Time, I have changed a word for the sake of semantics and polishing. My apologies, I am a fallible human being who is predisposed towards selfishness.
 
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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?
Enoch is Pseudepigrapha. It is a falsely attributed work that claimed authorship but is not the true author , Enoch. The book is fiction.
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Enoch is Pseudepigrapha. It is a falsely attributed work that claimed authorship but is not the true author , Enoch. The book is fiction.
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I think that this is probably correct. Even the more apparently boring bits in the bible, still have some bits which leave you still feeling in awe of God. The book of Enoch does not do that for me at all. God's books of the bible also seem to speak to us on various different levels, in a way that the words of man cannot do. I must admit that I have only ever read bits of it on the internet.
 
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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?
As @HTacianas has said, Enoch is more than one book.

Today, the most controversial part among Christians is 1 Enoch, which contains an angelic interpretation of Genesis 6. That interpretation was the most commonly-head belief by both Jews and Christians in the first centuries of the church. On the Christian side, multiple fathers wrote of it, including Justin Martyr. I can find some of their references, if you wish. On the Jewish side, Josephus included it in Antiquities of the Jews. It also seems to be referred to in Jude and 2 Peter.

The angelic interpretation fell out of favor, I think, beginning near Augustine's time (but I'm not certain). When the first Protestants came around they rejected it completely. Today it's experiencing a resurgence among Protestants. And also among weirdos.

It wasn't included in the Jewish canon so it's not surprising it didn't make into the Christian one (although I believe the Ethiopian Orthodox church includes it).

It's origin can't be traced to Enoch himself. Or to anyone in particular. I think that alone is a good reason to reject it as scripture.

My own opinion is that it shouldn't be in the canon. But that doesn't mean everything in it is false. I accept the angelic interpretation of Genesis 6 because I think that, taken into context with the other sources around it, it's the easiest interpretation. But I have no confidence in all the details the book includes (such as the names of the angels, etc.).
 
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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?

It’s canonical in the Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox Church, and its Eritrean counterpart, which are Oriental Orthodox.
 
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I am surprised that nobody mentioned the main reason - the Book of Enoch was lost, so it logically could not get to the canonization debates.

It was rediscovered in Ethiopia in the 17th century and its antiquity confirmed in the 20th century (Dead Sea Scrolls).

For a book to be a part of the Bible, its necessary for it to be with the church from the beginning (one of the requirements of canonization).

The book was lost for the common church (known and used in Ethiopia though) and therefore its Apocrypha (Greek word for "hidden").
 
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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?
No real idea of who wrote it or when, as well as the fact that it contains a great deal of stuff that is observably untrue.
 
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I’ve read several books from the apocrypha and haven’t undergone spiritual attack and I’m conversant in warfare. Sin, associations, and holy works are the common reason for its occurrence.
 
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The first thing that has to be separated is Enochic tradition, the canonical Book of Enoch and the extant Book of Enoch. However, to do that, I am going to reference something totally unrelated as an illustration.

In Luke chapter 11 we see Jesus performing an exorcism and then making a strange reference. He says that "one greater than Solomon has come."

That's strange. Why would Jesus mention Solomon in connection to an exorcism? Well, because Solomon was an exorcist who enslaved demons. Wait, what? Where did that come from?

During the time of Jesus, the canon was not set. The Masoretic texts were not even fully wrought yet nor was the Babylonian tradition (out of which the Masoretc texts came) canon in Jerusalem or in Alexandria. In fact, the Septuagint was the most widespread form of the Jewish scriptures and there were at least three sets of canonical literature.

The great mistake people make is that they think the bible has come down in the exact same form that it was always in. Did you know that the Bibles commissioned by Emperor Constantine only had about 18-20 books in the whole thing considered canonical? The Epistle of Barnabas was one of them. Ever hear of that one? Probably not.

At the time of Jesus there were many texts that were considered authoritative. In fact, the Septuagint was the text of the core scriptures that Jesus references when he talks about scripture. Why? It was widely available and no one really spoke Hebrew back then; it was a ceremonial language like Latin to Catholics. They spoke Aramaic and Greek, and the Septuagint was the Greek text they could all read and understand.

Yet there were other texts that were not in the Septuagint that were also read and considered authoritative. Jude quotes from Enoch. Some say he is quoting Enoch, not the Book of Enoch. Okay. How did he know what Enoch said? It must have been in scripture somewhere. Anyone see a book quoting Enoch that Jude could have used in our canon today? No. It is not there. What does that mean? Well, it is like that mention of Solomon by Jesus that seems to come out of nowhere.

Jesus mentions the traditions outlined in a book called the Testament of Solomon. Flavius Josephus, the great Jewish historian, mentions a ring being used in a Jewish exorcism "such as was used by Solomon." This comes straight from the Testament of Solomon tradition.

Enoch, then is one of those referenced texts that Jesus and his apostles clearly knew about, read and regarded as scripture. There's just one problem...

The canonical Book of Enoch endorsed by the apostles and referenced by Peter and Jude (2 Peter 2 and Jude 1:6) appears to have been lost.

Remember Joshua references the "Book of the Upright." In fact this Sefer Ha Yashar is referenced in Joshua 10:13, 2 Samuel 1:18 and possibly in the 1 Kings 8, where it is found referenced in 1 Kings in the Septuagint version of the text, but not the Masoretic version of 1 Kings.

As an aside, the Masoretic texts are not older, but younger than the Septuagint. Interestingly, the oldest forms of the scriptures have Goliath at 4 cubits and a span. The Septuagint has him at the same height, but he has a growth spurt in the later Masoretic texts and is 6 cubits and a span. Other errors occur in the Masoretic texts, such as skipped lines that have to be filled in by using the Septuagint. So, yeah. The Masoretic texts have problems.

But back to the subject... the book that is often called Jasher (Sefer Ha Yashar) is obviously a canonical book that is lost. There are two extant Books of Jasher, but one is an attempt to recreate what the author thinks was in Jasher and the other is a Jewish Midrash. The point is that this was a canonical book that was lost and an attempt to recreate it, possibly from oral tradition.

The same is true for the Testament of Solomon. There is a canonical tradition of Solomon having power over demons through the use of a ring. Jesus references it and so does Josephus. The extant text is adulterated, though. It was widely read and is preserved thanks to early Christians. YES, this was a text used and considered canon by many early Christians. Unfortunately, they seem to have added to it, adding clearly Christian things to what was previously a Jewish text. Once a text becomes adulterated, one cannot say it is a divinely inspired text anymore. The rule of the church leaders was: if you can't accept part of it as original, you have to throw all of it out.

The same thing seems to have happened to Enoch. The overarching tradition of Enoch is canonical and clearly referenced by Moses, the prophets and the apostles. The original text is lost, or the original text is somehow partially lost with only fragments remaining, or the original text is completely lost with the oral tradition remaining. However, it is apparently not lost before the time of Jesus as it is referenced by the apostles.

The extant text, however, is adulterated. The extant text has sections that seem to be older (basis of verbiage and grammar) and other sections that seem to be younger. The problem is that it has been adulterated and you know the rule. If you cannot accept all of it as divinely inspired, you have to throw all of it out.

One problem there. The overarching tradition is still canonical and referenced by Moses, the prophets and the apostles. So you can't throw it out completely. If you do, you lack understanding of much of prophesy. What happened in Genesis 6 is the basis of God's later command to Joshua and later leaders of Israel to commit a genocide of the Canaanites. This was not explained in depth by Moses in Genesis because (according to tradition) Moses had the writings of the patriarchs before, including Enoch.

Now in the 5th century Julius Africanus responded to the criticisms of Celsus and Julian the Apostate by rejecting the Enochic tradition. Bene Ha Elohim (Sons of God) is a Hebrew idiom for angels. Benoth Adam (literally daughters of Adam) is an idiom for women born to human beings. Julius made up a new paradigm that really calls God a liar. He says that God didn't really mean God, but meant Seth and Adam really meant Cain. So the Nephilim were products of Sethites shacking up with Cainites. Problem is that Cain names his kids after God. He's a repentant sinner. Separation is not called for until later, by the way. Oh and... Seth's line all die in the flood, save Noah's clan -- so not so godly are they? (God says all flesh was corrupted)

Also, if you have two people from different families marry (Sethites and Cainites) the kids are not monstrous. Nephilim are monstrous according to both the canonical (remember Goliath, Og of Bashon, Anak and all that mess?) and non-canonical scriptures. Unfortunately, Augustine (in one of his many errors) accepts the Sethite contrivance and it becomes orthodox dogma for far too long. However the scriptures back up the Enoch tradition.

As far back as Eden. God tells the devil (as the dragon - serpent is likely mistranslated as the intent was probably dragon, as he is called in Revelation) that he will put enmity between the seed of the woman and thy seed. People often miss that there are two seeds there. The seed of the woman is the line of humanity leading ultimately to Jesus (and Jesus is called "the Seed of the Woman"). Who is the seed of the dragon? The Nephilim. This is why the Bible clearly says that there were Nephilim in the earth in those days (days of Noah) and after that - some survive the flood.

Yes. You read that right.

God is not complete in his wiping out of the Nephilim because he promised the devil that his seed would continue and there would be enmity between humanity and them. We see the Nephilim again in Numbers 13:33 and all through the Canaanite wars. The Nephilim are the reason for God's genocide against the Canaanites. And remember, Peter and Jude tell us the fathers of the Nephilim were bound in Tartarus. Some try to make a second incursion argument because they don't want Nephilim surviving the flood, but read what Genesis 6 says. Some do survive the flood. God leaves some alive to fulfill his prophesy to the devil.

Daniel prophesies their coming back in the prophesy of the statue with the feet of iron and miry clay. He tell us the group represented by the clay will try to mix with the seed of men but will not be able to. In order to attempt to mix with the seed of men, they must be other than the seed of men. Many scholars think this is talking about a resurgence of the Nephilim.

Understanding the Enochic tradition and the Angel View of Genesis 6 (which goes hand in hand with the Enochic tradition and is supported by Peter and Jude) is critical to understanding 80% of what happened in the founding of Israel and their wars and is also critical in understanding most of prophesy.

Now, the Book of Enoch did survive in Ethiopia. Unfortunately, it appears it was a second century, adulterated version that was canonized in the Ethiopian Church. The original without later ideas, grammar and other characteristics was not preserved in any tradition. Yet the overarching tradition of the Book of Enoch has remained, thanks to the hints here and there in the canonical text and the extrabiblical traditions until the discovery of the Enoch in Ethiopia and later fragments of Enoch in jars in the Holy Land.

So what does this mean? Simple. The Book of Enoch was a canonical work read, respected and considered authoritative by Moses, the prophets, Jesus and the apostles. It was not demonic fan fiction. It was not a false gospel (a gospel as defined in a textural sense is a story of the life of Christ, not an Old Testament book, so calling any Old Testament text a false gospel is an error by definition). It was a widely read, highly regarded, integral part of the religious canon at the time of the prophets and at the time of Jesus, just as the original work which was the basis of the extant Testament of Solomon was equally canonical in those times.

So, there were unequivocally other authoritative scriptures that we do not have in our canon today. Unfortunately, not all the scriptures that Jesus endorsed survived. Some were lost. Others were partially lost and adulterated forms survived, so they could not be canonized. That does not mean these biblically endorsed extra-biblical texts have no value. It means they must be read with discernment and should only be read by those with a strength of faith and the spiritual gift of discernment. Are they necessary for salvation? No. Can an understanding of the canonical part of the Enochic and Solomonic traditions enhance your understanding of scripture and your relationship with God? Yes. BUT, read without understanding and the spiritual gift of discernment they can create problems, just as reading the canonical texts in your off the shelf Bible without care and discernment can lead to error. But I would argue that these texts, because of their adulteration, pose a greater risk for the spiritually immature. A person of mature years and a mature spirit will do well with them, but others may find delving into these texts unwise.
 
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There is no "Book of Enoch". The Book of Enoch is actually a series of separate books sort of spliced together. Parts of it are mentioned in the bible but it is not clear which "book" exactly it is referring to. Enoch was not part of the Septuagint so it is not part of the Christian old testament.
Well, maybe.

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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?

Enoch is the most quoted, or eluded to, book in the Bible; but it's not in the Bible. Enoch is quoted, or eluded to in the B'rit Chadasha (New Testament) over 100 times.

Psalms is quoted 68 times in the Bible.

The Book of Enoch

Copies of 1 Enoch were found at Betharaba, home of John the Baptist, where Yahshua began his ministry.

Don't confuse 2nd and 3rd Enoch with 1st Enoch.

(CLV) Mt 22:29
Now, answering, Jesus said to them, "You are deceived, not being acquainted with the scriptures, nor yet with the power of God.

(CLV) Mt 22:30
For in the resurrection neither are they marrying nor taking in marriage, but are as messengers of God in heaven.

Some will use this as a proof text that angels can't mate. We know that angels can eat. What else can they do? The angels were told not to. They were told not to fornicate with strange flesh. That doesn't mean that they can't.

Yahshua mentioned scripture.

Where in the Torah or the Prophets does it say anything about the angels and their mating abilities?

Let's save some time searching, and go straight to Enoch.

Enoch 15: 5-7

And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die 5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget
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children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly
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spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.
 
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Been seeing more things about the book of Enoch, he clearly existed as he is named in scripture. What is the reason/s for the book not being recognized as having any authority?
Quoted in Jude. From the Jewish First Book of Enoch.
Why would this be if it were not legitimate?

Jude 1:14-15 NIV
Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

Footnotes
  1. Jude 1:15 From the Jewish First Book of Enoch (approximately the first century b.c.)
 
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The canonical Book of Enoch endorsed by the apostles and referenced by Peter and Jude (2 Peter 2 and Jude 1:6) appears to have been lost.
Thanks for your very informative post.
Do you have the reference for the quote in 2 Peter 2?
I scanned the chapter but didn't see it.
 
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