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How do I "stimulate", my Evolution? I can be stimulated to embrace the theory, but what next?

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... until 03:41 in the video, where you say, "The fact is that I accepted evolution, even when I was a Christian."

And side note: What year did you make that hat? (I'm asking for a reason.)

You also said you examined evidence for the existence of gods.

What evidence did you examine exactly?
The hat was made several years ago. I think it was 2014 or 2015.

The evidence I examined was the bible, and the q'ran, and the baghavad gitta, and the mythologies of the celts, norse, hindus, inca, maya, japanese, and han.
As well as the teachings and history of the three desert religions, judaism, christianity, and islam.
 
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Except that you're the only one saying that.

Others mostly don't seem to understand that what you said is incorrect. Either because it fit their own agenda, or out of ignorance.
 
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Others mostly don't seem to understand that what you said is incorrect. Either because it fit their own agenda, or out of ignorance.

And unless you are a biological scientist or evolutionary scientist, or a mind reader, then I think that you're in no position to judge other peoples.

Isn't there a passage in the Bible that says "Judge not lest ye be judged"?
 
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And unless you are a biological scientist or evolutionary scientist, or a mind reader, then I think that you're in no position to judge other peoples.

Isn't there a passage in the Bible that says "Judge not lest ye be judged"?

Only a bachelor's degree but yes, I've taken genetics classes.
 
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Evolution cannot be stimulated because it is not something that a being has control over. Evolution happens regardless of whether a person or being wants it to happen or not.
I think we can have some influence over evolution. As agents we can put ourselves and future generations in a better or worse evolutionary position. Especially humans through changing environments and cultural practices.

Humans are able to adapt to just about any environment. But rather than being a passive entity subject to genetic change to an environment they can change the environment to suit their needs.

Other species also have this ability in what is known as niche construction. Beavers for example make a suitable environment by building dams. This also affects the ecosystem and other creatures evolution. In this sense they are directing the course of evolution.
 
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Because you can? or is something stopping you?
Logic is stopping me.
The bible is proof of people writing the bible.
Thats all.
Back to the fact that you edited out the more important parts of the post.
Why?
 
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Back to the fact that you edited out the more important parts of the post. Why?
If you have a question, ask it.

I'll do my best to answer it.
 
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The Hindu cosmology is closer to reality than the judeo/christian/islamic cosmology.Why is that?
Because the Hindu cosmology is as wrong as academia's cosmology.
 
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Only a bachelor's degree but yes, I've taken genetics classes.

But you're not a mind reader so no, you can't claim that other people know what I'm saying because 'it fits their agenda, or out of ignorance'.

I think we can have some influence over evolution. As agents we can put ourselves and future generations in a better or worse evolutionary position. Especially humans through changing environments and cultural practices.

Humans are able to adapt to just about any environment. But rather than being a passive entity subject to genetic change to an environment they can change the environment to suit their needs.

Other species also have this ability in what is known as niche construction. Beavers for example make a suitable environment by building dams. This also affects the ecosystem and other creatures evolution. In this sense they are directing the course of evolution.

That is nowhere on the same level as to what Gottservant is talking about in this thread. Like... at all.
 
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You would know that though? right?

I wouldn't.

And I believe you when you, in your video, called it an "old hat."

See what I'm getting at?
 
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You would know that though? right?

I wouldn't.

And I believe you when you, in your video, called it an "old hat."

See what I'm getting at?
All I see is you are again tapdancing circles around a point only you can see.
I realize you like to rely on casting convoluted mazes of "clues" for people to follow. But honest people do not do that.
 
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Hi there,

So, yes, a basic basic concept for you: you have the theory, but how do you "stimulate" the Evolution that the theory makes you aware of?

Scripturally speaking, we study the scriptures.

Meditatively speaking, we practice meditation.

Instinct grows, if it is practiced - it stands to reason that "Evolution" would require a specific (unique?) exercise of instinct (for specifically "Evolutionary" instinct to "grow").

I'm not asking something hard: race car drivers, race; but they also visualize the race, to hone their skills (which is better survival as a race care driver, but not as a direct consequence of choosing to be a race car driver).

What about your proclivity to err against the individual? If one were to practice ignoring the Evolution of the individual, one would understand Evolution more?

Give it some thought?

EDIT: Upon further thought, it has occurred to me that a strength in stimulating "Evolution" makes possible finding "cross-Evolutionary" associations - with which you can establish trans-Evolutional power.
Maybe eat more bananas?
 
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Evolution cannot be stimulated because it is not something that a being has control over. Evolution happens regardless of whether a person or being wants it to happen or not.
This thread should have ended with this post.

But creationist zealots don't actually want answers. They do not want to learn - at all - about evolution. They are just witnessing, doing whatever they can to convince themselves that they made the right (uninformed) choices in their lives.
Sad.
 
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