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Christopher Steele employee arrested

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Actually an evaluation at this point would be premature. The question is not how unpopular a president may be or have been at any point, the question is in the history of events how well did the president do his job.
I'm not sure it would be premature but okay. It's just a point we differ on and that will not always be teh case....
 
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Agreed: this $12,000,000 bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign hit piece was the foundation for multiple investigations, wire taps and a two and a half year, $40,000,000 investigation including 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, over 1,000,000 pages of documents, 2,500 subpoenas that failed miserably to make the connection from the paid for hit piece.
Except if we go back to reality, we find that the investigation began well before the FBI were given the steel dosier. The Dosier was later handed into the FBI by Steel without Hilary or the DNC's knowledge. It was used along with other evidence to get the warrant for surveillance of Carter Page. The surveillance turned up nothing and was not material to the continuance of the investigation into conpiracy of Trump campaign members with the Russians. This investigation by the way was continued by the Special Council who was commissioned by the Republican acting attorney general.
The investigations had nothing to do with the Democrats and the steele dossier had only a small bit part in this.
 
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The Dosier was later handed into the FBI by Steel without Hilary or the DNC's knowledge.

Hogwash - It has already been proven that the dossier was PAID for by Hillary and the DNC.
 
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DNC, Clinton campaign paid for research that resulted in Trump dossier: Report

Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee contributed funding for research that culminated in the infamous dossier alleging Donald Trump's connections to Russia, according to a Washington Post report citing people familiar with the matter.

According to the report, lawyer Marc E. Elias, who represented both Clinton's campaign and the DNC, and his law firm Perkins Coie retained the firm Fusion GPS in April 2016 to investigate any connections, according to the Post. Before then, a still-unknown Republican client funded Fusion GPS' research during the Republican primaries. Fusion had hired former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele to conduct the research.

The DNC and Clinton campaign-funded research continued through the end of October 2016, according to the Post's report.

 
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The Dems did everything they could to form and carry out their plans to resist Trump in every way possible even though they fully knew

Gosh, a total reversal from the Obama Era, when Mitch McConnell declared the GOP to be the "Party of Yes We Can!"
 
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Hogwash - It has already been proven that the dossier was PAID for by Hillary and the DNC.

This does not change the fact that Republican senator John McCain gave it to the FBI at the urging of Republican senator Lindsey Graham.

Graham added: “I told the President it was not John McCain. I know because John McCain showed me the dossier. And I told him the only thing I knew to do with it, it could be a bunch of garbage, it could be true, who knows? Turn it over to somebody who’s job it is to find these things out and John McCain acted appropriately.”

Nor does it change the fact that the dossier started its life as an investigation paid for by a conservative newspaper.
 
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When did Jerry Nadler become a Republican??
When did Pelosi become a Republican?
When Did Schumer become a Republican?

They were the drivers of the whole show for years.

So the Republicans investigated their own president based off Nancy Pelosi and a democratic "hit piece". No, I don't recall it happening that way. I recall legitimate questions that caused the investigation. No matter how many wish to try to rewrite history.
 
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Steele dossier researcher indicted in Durham probe

Lied five times to the FBI about Trump/Russia connections.

If you remember the Steele Dossier bought and paid for by Hillary and the DNC created the narrative that is completely false.
Respectively you're mistaken if you think that the Steele Dossier was what the Russian/Trump investigation was based upon. The Mueller investigation as well as all congressional investigations showed that the Russians asserted themselves into the election through mass media to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign knew it.
 
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Respectively you're mistaken if you think that the Steele Dossier was what the Russian/Trump investigation was based upon. The Mueller investigation as well as all congressional investigations showed that the Russians asserted themselves into the election through mass media to help the Trump campaign, and his campaign knew it.

Look at the evidence without the left propaganda.

The Steele Dossier was bought and paid for (12,000,000) by Hillary and the DNC - established fact
The Steel Dossier was used to expand an investigation on then candidate Trump during the Obama Administration - established fact
The arrest just recently is because the operative lied to the FBI five times - established fact
It was the Democratically controlled congress that brought in Mueller - established fact
It was Mueller who spent over 2 years investigating the issues sparked by the Steele Dossier - established fact
It was the Democrats with Mueller who spent 40,000,000 - 19 attorney's - 40 special agents - 2,500 subpoenas and over 1,000,000 pages of documents - established fact

The head of the FBI after the facts came to light said on national television, under oath if he had known everything at the beginning he would not have authorized the FISA - established fact.

McCabe Says He Would Not Have Signed Carter Page Spy Warrant Given Recent Revelations

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe told a Senate committee on Tuesday that he would not have signed an application for a warrant to surveil a former Trump campaign aide had he known it contained inaccurate information.


“If you knew then what you know now, would you have signed the warrant application in June 2017 against Carter Page?” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham asked McCabe.

“No, sir,” McCabe said.​
 
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Look at the evidence without the left propaganda.
I'm not promoting any propaganda from anybody, but unfortunately you have fallen to propaganda since you believe that the Trump/Russia investigation was based on the Dossier. I would remind you that continuing in this lie will manipulate your spirit so as to cause you to hate and blame Democrats and the media for something that they never did.

The Steele Dossier was bought and paid for (12,000,000) by Hillary and the DNC - established fact. The Steel Dossier was used to expand an investigation on then candidate Trump during the Obama Administration - established fact. The arrest just recently is because the operative lied to the FBI five times - established fact.
But this is simply a red herring fallacy, since the Russia/Trump ties existed in reality. Hillary didn't plan the meeting at Trump Tower nor did she pay for the Russian operatives that used mass media to try to sway the electorate in Trump's favor.

It was the Democratically controlled congress that brought in Mueller - established fact
Respectfully this is not a fact. Rosenberg was forced to appoint a special counsel after it became a matter of public record that Trump had tried to get him to lie about why Comey was fired. Rosenberg's' own sworn testimony on the matter can be seen in the Mueller report.
Mueller who spent over 2 years investigating the issues sparked by the Steele Dossier - established fact
No, this is not true.
It was the Democrats with Mueller who spent 40,000,000 - 19 attorney's - 40 special agents - 2,500 subpoenas and over 1,000,000 pages of documents - established fact
Sorry but this is not true either. Both houses of Congress were controlled by the Republicans at the time, and Rosenberg appointed the special counsel.

The head of the FBI after the facts came to light said on national television, under oath if he had known everything at the beginning he would not have authorized the FISA - established fact.

McCabe Says He Would Not Have Signed Carter Page Spy Warrant Given Recent Revelations

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe told a Senate committee on Tuesday that he would not have signed an application for a warrant to surveil a former Trump campaign aide had he known it contained inaccurate information.


“If you knew then what you know now, would you have signed the warrant application in June 2017 against Carter Page?” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham asked McCabe.

“No, sir,” McCabe said.
Yes of course, since Carter Paige was an FBI informant. But this has nothing to do with The Mueller investigation and the election interference that occurred.​
 
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Hogwash - It has already been proven that the dossier was PAID for by Hillary and the DNC.
We know that the Clinton campain paid for opposition research, as all parties and candidates do.
But the Clinton campain never asked Steel to create a dossier and to pass it onto the FBI.
They never knew that he was passing information onto the FBI.
 
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Agreed: this $12,000,000 bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign hit piece was the foundation for multiple investigations, wire taps and a two and a half year, $40,000,000 investigation including 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, over 1,000,000 pages of documents, 2,500 subpoenas that failed miserably to make the connection from the paid for hit piece.
No, it made a footnote in the investigation which started before the Steele Dossier was presented to anyone. At most, it served to get and renew a wiretap.
 
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Look at the evidence without the left propaganda.

The Steele Dossier was bought and paid for (12,000,000) by Hillary and the DNC - established fact
This is true.
The Steel Dossier was used to expand an investigation on then candidate Trump during the Obama Administration - established fact
Alternate fact. The actual established fact is that the Steele Dossier was used to confirm and renew the surveillance of Carter Page.
The arrest just recently is because the operative lied to the FBI five times - established fact
"The" operative? As though there was only one. As far as I know, there has been no conviction, so shouldn't he be presumed innocent?
It was the Democratically controlled congress that brought in Mueller - established fact
Absolutely not! It was Donald's own DOJ that brought in Mueller in May 2017. Appointment of Special Counsel
Furthermore, in 2017, both the House and the Senate were controlled by the GOP. Paul Ryan, not Nancy Pelosi, was Speaker of the House from 2015 until January 2019. And Mitch McConnell was Senate Majority Leader from 2015 up until just recently, January 2021 - how soon they are forgotten!
It was Mueller who spent over 2 years investigating the issues sparked by the Steele Dossier - established fact
True, Republican Mueller appointed by Republican Rod Rosenstein under Republican Donald investigated.
It was the Democrats with Mueller who spent 40,000,000 - 19 attorney's - 40 special agents - 2,500 subpoenas and over 1,000,000 pages of documents - established fact
What Democrats are you talking about? Are you claiming that all 19 attorneys and all 40 agents are Democrats? And, if they were, why would that matter, working for a Republican boss? They were investigating, not covering up.

The head of the FBI after the facts came to light said on national television, under oath if he had known everything at the beginning he would not have authorized the FISA - established fact.
McCabe who was fired a few days before retirement by spiteful Donald? That is the interesting thing about hindsight - what you know now wasn't known then.

Established fact - Mueller stated clearly that the report did not exonerate Donald and, further established fact, listed ten instances of obstruction of justice which Republicans still today overlook.
 
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Steele dossier researcher indicted in Durham probe

Lied five times to the FBI about Trump/Russia connections.

If you remember the Steele Dossier bought and paid for by Hillary and the DNC created the narrative that is completely false.

So now we emphasize on “ guilt by association”!!! Christopher Steele employee is arrested so Christopher Steele must be guilty. If Christopher Steele is guilty then Hilary Clinton and entire DNS must be guilty because of their association with Christopher Steele. Wow if that is how we find guilty people then I have a better connection

Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years in Prison


Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years in Prison | Time
 
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So now we emphasize on “ guilt by association”!!! Christopher Steele employee is arrested so Christopher Steele must be guilty. If Christopher Steele is guilty then Hilary Clinton and entire DNS must be guilty because of their association with Christopher Steele. Wow if that is how we find guilty people then I have a better connection

Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years in Prison


Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years in Prison | Time

However the attorney, according to your link was sentenced for

In August, Cohen pleaded guilty to tax evasion, campaign finance violations and making false financial statements
Has zero to do with Russia Russia Russia, Hillary, Steele or anyone else in the subject of the thread.

But, Let's have some fun here.

Hislegacy Hires Boo boo magoo for dirt on his political opponent. Boo Boo Magoo hires Ferd Birkle to help in assembling the information so Boo Boo Magoo can make his 12 million -

Ferd Birkle assembles his part of a hit piece that has been debunked (by the FBI), Boo Boo Magoo then disseminates this information as part of the debunked package and gets paid by Hislegacy and is then indicted by Durham for five counts of lying to the FBI.

This package - paid for by Hislegacy - compiled by Boo Boo Magoo with the help of Ferd Birkle plays a central roll in an attempt to impeach a sitting President.

And in your reasoning - Hislegacy did absolutely nothing wrong.

Interesting.
 
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Durham wins over toughest critic with revelations of Dem scheme behind Trump-Russia probe

Mr. Steele was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign to compile the dossier on Mr. Trump.


The Dolan-Danchenko connection undercuts claims that the dossier was sourced from high-level Kremlin intelligence officials and exposes it as a Democratic campaign tool.

While Mr. Durham’s indictments portray the FBI as being misled by the defendants, Mr. Fitton said, the bureau deserves closer scrutiny.

“The record demonstrates that the FBI knew almost immediately that the investigation was opened improperly, the dossier was an unreliable political document, and it never stopped them,” he said. “They doubled down and continued to misuse it to justify spying on the new president and launch a special counsel operation.”​
 
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Durham wins over toughest critic with revelations of Dem scheme behind Trump-Russia probe

Mr. Steele was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign to compile the dossier on Mr. Trump.


The Dolan-Danchenko connection undercuts claims that the dossier was sourced from high-level Kremlin intelligence officials and exposes it as a Democratic campaign tool.

While Mr. Durham’s indictments portray the FBI as being misled by the defendants, Mr. Fitton said, the bureau deserves closer scrutiny.

“The record demonstrates that the FBI knew almost immediately that the investigation was opened improperly, the dossier was an unreliable political document, and it never stopped them,” he said. “They doubled down and continued to misuse it to justify spying on the new president and launch a special counsel operation.”​
Neither compiling nor paying for the compilation is illegal or inappropriate. Lying to the FBI is both illegal and inappropriate (see Gen. Flynn).

Mr. Fitton is merely a professional demagogue for conservatives, so that he misstates the role of the dossier is to be expected but should not be accepted by anyone who cares for factual accuracy. The dossier was admitted to be unverified, so accusing it of that is silly. It was not central to opening the FBI investigation and only made a footnote in the final Mueller Report - as you know.

But, Let's have some fun here.

Hislegacy Hires Boo boo magoo for dirt on his political opponent. Boo Boo Magoo hires Ferd Birkle to help in assembling the information so Boo Boo Magoo can make his 12 million -

Ferd Birkle assembles his part of a hit piece that has been debunked (by the FBI), Boo Boo Magoo then disseminates this information as part of the debunked package and gets paid by Hislegacy and is then indicted by Durham for five counts of lying to the FBI.

This package - paid for by Hislegacy - compiled by Boo Boo Magoo with the help of Ferd Birkle plays a central roll in an attempt to impeach a sitting President.

And in your reasoning - Hislegacy did absolutely nothing wrong.

Interesting.
In your fantasy retelling, since Hislegacy did not disseminate false information (which obviously is not illegal, see 30,573 lies) nor, in your story, did he direct anyone to lie to the FBI, so Hislegacy is free and clear of illegalities. Now, I wouldn't declare that "dirty tricks" are not morally wrong, but they are routine and not necessarily illegal.

BTW, Danchenko seems to be an independent contractor, not Steele's "employee".
 
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Mr. Steele was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign to compile the dossier on Mr. Trump.

The Dolan-Danchenko connection undercuts claims that the dossier was sourced from high-level Kremlin intelligence officials and exposes it as a Democratic campaign tool.
Back in January of 2017, Buzzfeed essentially exposed the Steele dossier as a Democratic campaign tool when it informed the public that it was the product of political opposition research against Trump. Buzzfeed also reported at that time that there were some clear errors in the raw intelligence, and that the intelligence gathered was unverified according to Mr. Steele himself.

Respectfully, if you're believing that the Mueller investigation began because of this Dossier, you are misinformed. These articles you post are deliberately written to mislead the public into thinking exactly that.



 
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Let me see if I get this right.

The dossier was created by a former UK intelligence agent based on word of mouth from a Russian informant given to the American FBI and paid for by an American political party - the DNC. To say that an American presidential candidate is colluding with Russia to control America via proxy. Trumpeted by the American MSM as facts.

Doesn't the dossier itself constitute foreign collusion?
 
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Let me see if I get this right.


The dossier was created by a former UK intelligence agent based on word of mouth from a Russian informant given to the American FBI and paid for by an American political party - the DNC. To say that an American presidential candidate is colluding with Russia to control America via proxy. Trumpeted by the American MSM as facts.


Doesn't the dossier itself constitute foreign collusion?

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