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Christopher Steele employee arrested

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That sentence was so long I forgot how it started.

Trump is widely, in objective circles considered a terrible, terrible president. Maybe that is why Dems fought so hard against him....maybe.

Yes because the ends justify the means. He must be gotten rid of at all cost. Lie, cheat, whatever it takes. Whatever it takes.
 
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That sentence was so long I forgot how it started.

Trump is widely, in objective circles considered a terrible, terrible president. Maybe that is why Dems fought so hard against him....maybe.

Not in objective circles they don't. People who are objective would say he was a really good president. But he was a really big jerk. Objective people would admit they prefer a less effective president as long as he was a better person.
 
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Let me see if I get this right.

The dossier was created by a former UK intelligence agent based on word of mouth from a Russian informant given to the American FBI and paid for by an American political party - the DNC. To say that an American presidential candidate is colluding with Russia to control America via proxy. Trumpeted by the American MSM as facts.

Doesn't the dossier itself constitute foreign collusion?

Why yes it does. But a great many people refuse to admit it.
 
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Why yes it does. But a great many people refuse to admit it.

I don't see how people can't admit it. If I found out that any of my politicians got outside help to shape my country's election I would be furious. Heads will roll. Well it did happen in around about way. With both sides using that narrative but none commissioned it. And some heads did rolled.

We for a brief time managed to oust the long ruling coalition. Well, before traitors within the new government undermined our mandate less than 1.5 years later.

The ‘Foreign Interference’ Blame Game in Malaysia’s Upcoming Election
 
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And yet they presented it as if it was.

The never did any such thing. It was their task to investigate the claims. If they assumed it was substantiated, there would be no need to substantiate it.
 
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Not in objective circles they don't. People who are objective would say he was a really good president. But he was a really big jerk. Objective people would admit they prefer a less effective president as long as he was a better person.
Find me some of these "nonobjective circles" that say this.
The articles I have quoted before did not judge their personality traits but their outcomes; they were historians not psychologists.
 
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