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So the Russian collusion was on the DNC side this entire time while they cried Russia Russia Russia?

They are the ones who paid $12,000,000 to a foreign agent for a hit piece on a political opponent.
 
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So the Russian collusion was on the DNC side this entire time while they cried Russia Russia Russia?

I think that is what everyone except lame-stream media was saying all during 2020
 
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They are the ones who paid $12,000,000 to a foreign agent for a hit piece on a political opponent.

Which was ok since they were the elites that actually knew what everyone else should be allowed to think.
 
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Thank heavens we've learned that the FBI was the victim in all this and not the perpetrator.
Except for the fact that the FBI knew it was phoney and pushed it anyway.
 
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It doesn't matter anymore. Trump is no longer President.
I would totally disagree, the American public was not only taken for a ride and played for being stupid, the time that the President and his staff had to devote to this farce was time not used to do their primary duty of serving the public. There is also the question of how people within our government conspired to limit the effectiveness of a duly elected President. These people need to held accountable. Lock her up.
 
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So to clarify: When his supporters feel Trump is exhonerated for literally anything, it is VERY important we harp on and on about how victimized he is.

When we remember what a duplicitous narcissist being fishy, suddenly we have to ignore him again?
 
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I would totally disagree, the American public was not only taken for a ride and played for being stupid, the time that the President and his staff had to devote to this farce was time not used to do their primary duty of serving the public. There is also the question of how people within our government conspired to limit the effectiveness of a duly elected President. These people need to held accountable. Lock her up.

Agreed: this $12,000,000 bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign hit piece was the foundation for multiple investigations, wire taps and a two and a half year, $40,000,000 investigation including 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, over 1,000,000 pages of documents, 2,500 subpoenas that failed miserably to make the connection from the paid for hit piece.
 
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Agreed: this $12,000,000 bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign hit piece was the foundation for multiple investigations, wire taps and a two and a half year, $40,000,000 investigation including 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, over 1,000,000 pages of documents, 2,500 subpoenas that failed miserably to make the connection from the paid for hit piece.
Odd. One wonders why the Republicans were so set on investigating their president based off a democratic hit piece? Perhaps there is more to the story?
 
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So to clarify: When his supporters feel Trump is exhonerated for literally anything, it is VERY important we harp on and on about how victimized he is.

When we remember what a duplicitous narcissist being fishy, suddenly we have to ignore him again?
You totally miss the point that it is the American public that is victimized when the President they elected is intentionally hampered in his efforts to improve our nation. The Dems did everything they could to form and carry out their plans to resist Trump in every way possible even though they fully knew that wile it might be good for their party it was a total disservice to this nation and its people who they are paid to represent, in short they said the heck with loyalty to the nation and the people who put us in office , our party is so much more important because only we have the knowledge of what is and is not best for our nation, the public is too stupid to make the right decisions. You can see that same attitude displayed in their actions since they have come into power.
 
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You totally miss the point that it is the American public that is victimized when the President they elected is intentionally hampered in his efforts to improve our nation. The Dems did everything they could to form and carry out their plans to resist Trump in every way possible even though they fully knew that wile it might be good for their party it was a total disservice to this nation and its people who they are paid to represent, in short they said the heck with loyalty to the nation and the people who put us in office , our party is so much more important because only we have the knowledge of what is and is not best for our nation, the public is too stupid to make the right decisions.
That sentence was so long I forgot how it started.

Trump is widely, in objective circles considered a terrible, terrible president. Maybe that is why Dems fought so hard against him....maybe.
 
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Odd. One wonders why the Republicans were so set on investigating their president based off a democratic hit piece? Perhaps there is more to the story?

When did Jerry Nadler become a Republican??
When did Pelosi become a Republican?
When Did Schumer become a Republican?

They were the drivers of the whole show for years.
 
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That sentence was so long I forgot how it started.

Trump is widely, in objective circles considered a terrible, terrible president. Maybe that is why Dems fought so hard against him....maybe.
In your circles perhaps, but not in many.
The more the people see of what they have now the more they appreciate what Trump did, even if they do not like his personality.
 
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In your circles perhaps, but not in many.
The more the people see of what they have now the more they appreciate what Trump did, even if they do not like his personality.
Oh trust me. My circle is not near objective. I'm sure your circle isn't.
There are people who create rubrics and criteria for measuring the success of presidents. It's them who are saying they ain't so great. IF you like, I can find a couple studies and surveys but a short google search can show his ranking (survey of historians) fairly recently....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/06/30/presidential-rankings-2021-cspan-historians/
 
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Oh trust me. My circle is not near objective. I'm sure your circle isn't.
There are people who create rubrics and criteria for measuring the success of presidents. It's them who are saying they ain't so great. IF you like, I can find a couple studies and surveys but a short google search can show his ranking (survey of historians) fairly recently....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/06/30/presidential-rankings-2021-cspan-historians/
Actually an evaluation at this point would be premature. The question is not how unpopular a president may be or have been at any point, the question is in the history of events how well did the president do his job.
 
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