Don't approve "no abortion"? how about "forced sterilization"?

Do you want legal abortion or forced sterilization?

  • Sterilize them

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Abort them

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • No freedom to choose

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 21 91.3%

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Abortion is a killer. How about taking away their choice and mandate sterilization? We are heading toward socialism. Seems appropriate for the time.
I'm just the messenger.

Neither of these things are "socialism".
 
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Abortion is a killer. How about taking away their choice and mandate sterilization? We are heading toward socialism. Seems appropriate for the time.
I'm just the messenger.
Makes nonsense to sterilize women. It's too tricky to reverse.

Now if you're talking about forced vasectomies in conjunction with illegal abortion I am 100% on board with that!
 
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Makes nonsense to sterilize women. It's too tricky to reverse.

Now if you're talking about forced vasectomies in conjunction with illegal abortion I am 100% on board with that!
Good point but the post could be either gender.
Are you a male?
 
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Now if you're talking about forced vasectomies in conjunction with illegal abortion I am 100% on board with that!

YHWH speaks of cattle:

(CLV) Lv 22:24
And one with testicles squashed or pounded to pieces or pulled away or cut out you shall not bring near to Yahweh. You shall not do this in your land,

How much more so for a man?
 
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YHWH speaks of cattle:

(CLV) Lv 22:24
And one with testicles squashed or pounded to pieces or pulled away or cut out you shall not bring near to Yahweh. You shall not do this in your land,

How much more for a man?
Wow
 
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I have zero understanding why any of these are even an issue in the west. No legal compulsion about what people choose to do with their own body.

Caveat are:
1. as long as it is 100% of your own body down to the very cell. (A fetus is product of 2 donor cells TLDR - dividing & multiplying)
2. not legally forcing others (like medical professionals) to participate in the activity you do to your own body.
 
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Abortion is a killer. How about taking away their choice and mandate sterilization? We are heading toward socialism. Seems appropriate for the time.
I'm just the messenger.
socialism has practically bothing to do with this topic. it is first and foremost, an economic system.
 
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YHWH speaks of cattle:

(CLV) Lv 22:24
And one with testicles squashed or pounded to pieces or pulled away or cut out you shall not bring near to Yahweh. You shall not do this in your land,

How much more so for a man?

A vasectomy does not involve the removal or destruction of the ball.
 
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Abortion is a killer. How about taking away their choice and mandate sterilization? We are heading toward socialism. Seems appropriate for the time.
I'm just the messenger.

Who wants forced sterilization? That's such a blatantly horrible thing.
 
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A vasectomy does not involve the removal or destruction of the ball.

No more than cutting the traces on your motherboard would destroy your computer.
 
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Who wants forced sterilization? That's such a blatantly horrible thing.

In the early days of communism in China it is not a choice. So was it the same in Nazi Germany. And yes they were and still are horrible. But things considered horrid are in vogue for some reason in today's society.

And BTW I like your profile pic of Lain Iwakura. Brings back memory.
 
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YHWH speaks of cattle:

(CLV) Lv 22:24
And one with testicles squashed or pounded to pieces or pulled away or cut out you shall not bring near to Yahweh. You shall not do this in your land,

How much more so for a man?
[Giggle]....

You don't know what a vasectomy is, do you.

Let me tell you it is not your testicles put in a vice grip. It's not even their destruction.
 
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There're a such thing IUD's. I worked with kids, that had to be put in Foster care. Because drug addicted moms keeps having drug babies. I believe a forced BC is a must. Until they can turn their lives around. Then there's mentally ill women , that cant raise their kids. They love them . Yes , something needs to be done to help these women. IUD or getting fixed is a must. Then you have women getting abortions. Usually normal woman that got pregnant. I think better sex education and free access to BC, IUD's getting fixed. Condoms and access to BC is a must at all Middle, Jr High and High Schools.
 
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Am I able to reinstall these traces?

Why would you feel the need to reinstall them; If they weren't taken out?

Cutting a trace with a razor blade, is not the same as removing it.

If someone were to cut the traces on your motherboard with a razor; would you feel as though they had destroyed your computer?
 
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[Giggle]....

You don't know what a vasectomy is, do you.

Are you normally predisposed to presumptions?

Let me tell you it is not your testicles put in a vice grip. It's not even their destruction.

We have no record of modern vasectomies being performed in the days of Moses. Do you think that you've found a loophole in YHWH's law?
 
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No more than cutting the traces on your motherboard would destroy your computer.

That analogy is bad. It would be analogous to cutting the traces not destroying the hard drive, or RAM. It still exists.

(Do you have a Torah quote about damaging my computer? That would be a neat trick.)
 
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