Why do SDA preach

[Adventist Heretic]

No one has to do any work on the Scriptures for me. However, it is always proper and correct and acceptable that if you want others to read what you post of a Scripture, YOU should post the Book, the chapter and verse so as to illiminate any assumptions.

What I gave you was not an opinion. The Scriptures tell us that in heaven there will no sin. WHY did you think that was an opinion?????

I did not tell you to change anything!!!!!!

That comment came from YOU

When you read the Word of God and feel like something you have been told is wrong......then it is wrong my friend and I have nothing to do with it.

John 17:17...........
"Sanctify them with truth, MY WORD IS TRUTH"!

you're a trouble maker. i won't argue with you.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

No one has to do any work on the Scriptures for me. However, it is always proper and correct and acceptable that if you want others to read what you post of a Scripture, YOU should post the Book, the chapter and verse so as to illiminate any assumptions.

What I gave you was not an opinion. The Scriptures tell us that in heaven there will no sin. WHY did you think that was an opinion?????

I did not tell you to change anything!!!!!!

That comment came from YOU.

When you read the Word of God and feel like something you have been told is wrong......then it is wrong my friend and I have nothing to do with it.

John 17:17...........
"Sanctify them with truth, MY WORD IS TRUTH"!

first we don't go by your feelings, and second if you don't have anything to do with it then why are you here. go away

 

[Major1]

that is an opinion, and everybody has one.



we don't base our observance on the O.T. but out of the Garden of Eden.

you keep the sabbath according to the purpose of the sabbath. anything that does not conform to the purpose goes. so that begs the question what is the Sabbath for?

[/QUOTE]

FACT.......The word SABBATH does not appear in the Garden of Eden!!!!

So then your understanding is based on the opinions of MEN and not the Word of God.

Do you keep all of the law of the Sabbath?????

Please tell the truth.

Do you cook on the Sabbath?
Sowing
Plowing
Reaping
Binding sheaves
Threshing
Winnowing
Selecting
Grinding
Sifting
Kneading
Baking
Shearing wool
Washing wool

Beating wool
Dyeing wool
Spinning
Weaving
Making two loops
Weaving two threads
Separating two threads
Tying
Untying
Sewing stitches
Tearing
Trapping
Slaughtering

Flaying
Tanning
Scraping hide
Marking hides
Cutting hide to shape
Writing two or more letters
Erasing two or more letters
Building
Demolishing
Extinguishing a fire
Kindling a fire
Putting the finishing touch on an object
Transporting an object between a private domain and the public domain, or for a distance of 4 cubits within the public domain.

Do you keep ALL of those COMMANDMENTS according to the Sabbath Law?

 

[Major1]

you're a trouble maker. i won't argue with you.

LOL!

I would expect nothing less than that comment!

Thanks for the compliment.

Truth is not something we invent, only something we can discover. God reveals it to us in His Word.

Truth is rooted in the eternal, all-powerful, and unchangeable God. Therefore His promises cannot fail: “Every word of God proves true” (Proverbs 30:5 ESV).

 

[Major1]

first we don't go by your feelings, and second if you don't have anything to do with it then why are you here. go away

If you do not want to read what I say then why do you keep responding to what I post.

Just place me on the "Ignore" option and your worries are over.

When we wonder what’s right, we’re to turn to God’s Word: “For the word of the Lord is right and true” (Psalm 33:4).

As Psalm 119 depicts in every one of its 176 verses, God’s truth is at the heart of the spiritual life.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

ITherefore His promises cannot fail: “Every word of God proves true” (Proverbs 30:5 ESV).

Agreed. Which is why God spoke the 4th commandment and asked us to Remember and keep holy specifically His seventh day Sabbath. The seventh day is the only day in the bible that is significant to God. Jesus warns us to not worship Him in vain obeying traditions over commandments. Matthew 15:3-9.

These are Gods Words:

Exodus 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God
Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,

This should be the end of this discussion.

 

[Major1]

Not sure why you say Isaiah 66:22-23 is not about worship when the scripture plainly says it is about worship. Isaiah 66:22-23 [22], For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23], And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.

Please READ what I posted.............
"I don't think so. I think it is used as a deceptive device until someone tells you that the scripture has nothing to do with Sabbath worship today but in the eternal state! Again.....it has nothing to do with Sabbath worship.....today."

I did not say that it was NOT about worship!

I actually said that it........
"has nothing to do with Sabbath worship today but in the eternal state!"

 

[SabbathBlessings]

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I did not say that it was NOT about worship!

I actually said that it........
"has nothing to do with Sabbath worship today but in the eternal state!"

Which the scripture here is not saying. The scripture clearly tells us for those who are saved from one Sabbath to another we will be worshipping our Savior. God already defined what day that is and it is each and every seventh day. Exodus 20:8-11

You added that and from the scriptures you just quoted Proverbs 30:5,6, we should not add to God's Word.

 

[Major1]

Agreed. Which is why God spoke the 4th commandment and asked us to Remember and keep holy specifically His seventh day Sabbath. The seventh day is the only day in the bible that is significant to God. Jesus warns us to not worship Him in vain obeying traditions over commandments. Matthew 15:3-9.

These are Gods Words:

Exodus 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God
Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,

This should be the end of this discussion.

Holy...yes.

A day of worship.....that is not in the Scripture.

If you do not want to do anything on the Sabbath then dont do it.

If you believe that somehow, doing nothing on Saturday makes you holy, fine with me.

If you are a Jew and want to follow the law of the Sabbath, again...I do not care.

However.....doing or not doing those things has absolutly nothing to do with your fellowship with God. If it makes you feel better as a person...GREAT!

 

[Major1]

Which the scripture here is not saying. The scripture clearly tells us for those who are saved from one Sabbath to another we will be worshipping our Savior. God already defined what day that is and it is each and every seventh day. Exodus 20:8-11

You added that and from the scriptures you just quoted Proverbs 30:5,6, we should not add to God's Word.

YES it does......in the day of the eternal home we go to n heaven.

You can not pull out of CONTEXT a Scripture to make it say what you want it to say to meet your SDA teachings. That is the very worst kind of exegesis!

It always leads to error!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Holy...yes.

A day of worship.....that is not in the Scripture.

If you do not want to do anything on the Sabbath then dont do it.

If you believe that somehow, doing nothing on Saturday makes you holy, fine with me.

If you are a Jew and want to follow the law of the Sabbath, again...I do not care.

However.....doing or not doing those things has absolutly nothing to do with your fellowship with God. If it makes you feel better as a person...GREAT!

The definition of Holy
holy
[ hoh-lee ]
See synonyms for holy on Thesaurus.com
adjective, ho·li·er, ho·li·est.
specially recognized as or declared sacred by religious use or authority; consecrated:holy ground.
dedicated or devoted to the service of God, the church, or religion:a holy man.
saintly; godly; pious; devout:a holy life.
having a spiritually pure quality:a holy love.
entitled to worship or veneration as or as if sacred:a holy relic.


The definition of work (which is the first day to the six day according to God) Exodus 20:9
work
[ wurk ]
See synonyms for work on Thesaurus.com
noun
exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something; labor; toil.
productive or operative activity.
adjective
of, for, or concerning work:work clothes.
working (def. 18).
verb (used without object), worked or (Archaic) wrought;working.
to do work; labor.
to be employed, especially as a means of earning one's livelihood:He hasn't worked for six weeks.


Just using the common sense our Savior gave us, which description fits better for a day of worship? A day God separated from the others, blessed, hallowed, sanctified, told us to remember and keep holy or a day God told us to do all our work and labor.

This is a question Jesus might ask you when He comes back because there is no scripture in the bible that has the first day as a holy day or a day of significance according to God, the Creator of all things. Revelations and the mark of the beast is about worship. You might want to pray and study this area a bit more.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

YES it does......in the day of the eternal home we go to n heaven.

You can not pull out of CONTEXT a Scripture to make it say what you want it to say to meet your SDA teachings. That is the very worst kind of exegesis!

It always leads to error!

I'll repeat it for you because it doesn't even need interpretation.

Isaiah 66:23 And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

Does not say today but in the eternal state!" This is what you added that is not there.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

repost

 

[SabbathBlessings]

It seems to me that church on Sunday is probably more of a Protestant invention. Catholic churches (at lest the bigger ones) seem to operate 7 days a week. It's the Protestant churches that appear to be closed most of the time. There's a big SDA church I walk by from time to time and I don't recall ever seeing cars in the parking lot or any activity going on.

I drive by all kinds of churches from time to time and never see any activity. You might want to go inside and ask for a bulletin so you can make a more educated opinion.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

FACT.......The word SABBATH does not appear in the Garden of Eden!!!!

So then your understanding is based on the opinions of MEN and not the Word of God.

Do you keep all of the law of the Sabbath?????

Please tell the truth.

Do you cook on the Sabbath?
Sowing
Plowing
Reaping
Binding sheaves
Threshing
Winnowing
Selecting
Grinding
Sifting
Kneading
Baking
Shearing wool
Washing wool

Beating wool
Dyeing wool
Spinning
Weaving
Making two loops
Weaving two threads
Separating two threads
Tying
Untying
Sewing stitches
Tearing
Trapping
Slaughtering

Flaying
Tanning
Scraping hide
Marking hides
Cutting hide to shape
Writing two or more letters
Erasing two or more letters
Building
Demolishing
Extinguishing a fire
Kindling a fire
Putting the finishing touch on an object
Transporting an object between a private domain and the public domain, or for a distance of 4 cubits within the public domain.

Do you keep ALL of those COMMANDMENTS according to the Sabbath Law?[/QUOTE] Amature hour on display
"he rested" Genesis 2:2 Interlinear: and God completeth by the seventh day His work which He hath made, and ceaseth by the seventh day from all His work which He hath made.
Shabath Strong's Hebrew: 7673. שָׁבַת (shabath) -- to

 

[Adventist Heretic]

If you do not want to read what I say then why do you keep responding to what I post.

Just place me on the "Ignore" option and your worries are over.

When we wonder what’s right, we’re to turn to God’s Word: “For the word of the Lord is right and true” (Psalm 33:4).

As Psalm 119 depicts in every one of its 176 verses, God’s truth is at the heart of the spiritual life.

some how you think people need you to lecture them, you are being very arrogant and disrespectful. I have been on these forum for almost 15 years. I don't need finger wagging from you. you need to take some responsability for you attitude and actions. I checked out your profile and read some of the other post you are on and you seem to have a habit of calling anyone you disagree with a heritic or false teacher. in other words you are always right and everyone else is wrong. we need you, not Jesus, not the Holy Spirit, but you to teach us. you take that attitude and cut it down by about 80%. you are an amature, I am not. how you respond is the problem. you are not responding with the emotional and intellictual development off a mature person. these forums have many people with many ideas, many are wrong many are right and many are just interpretations, if you take the attitude you have you will miss many of the good things on this forum. there are many followers of the Lord on these forums, and they are his sheep not yours. you need to be careful on how you talk to people. someone like you can turn a lot of people away from the Lord and think he is doing good.

 

[tall73]

I'll repeat it for you because it doesn't even need interpretation.

Isaiah 66:23 And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

Does not say today but in the eternal state!" This is what you added that is not there.

But you didn't include what is also there, the new moon.

Isa 66:23 From new moon to new moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before me, declares the LORD.

Are all flesh coming before the Lord on the New Moon and Sabbath currently?

If so, then this conversation would be unnecessary.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

But you didn't include what is also there, the new moon.

Isa 66:23 From new moon to new moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before me, declares the LORD.

Are all flesh coming before the Lord on the New Moon and Sabbath currently?

If so, then this conversation would be unnecessary.

Definition of the New Moon
: the moon's phase when it is in conjunction with the sun so that its dark side is toward the earth
also : the thin crescent moon seen shortly after sunset for a few days after the actual occurrence of the new moon phase
2: the beginning of each Jewish month marked by a special liturgy

New moon is the beginning of the month. So from month to month and one Sabbath to another all flesh shall come to worship before me, declares the LORD.

 

[Ceallaigh]

That is correct my brother.

You see.....the SDA religion is a very deceitful false religion as it always twists and changes Scripture to force them to say what it is that they want to believe.

Seventh-Day Adventism began in the mid-nineteenth century, when a Baptist preacher, who later repented of his folly, predicted that Jesus Christ would return in 1844. Miller had over 10,000 followers, many of whom sold their homes, gave away all their earthly possessions, quit their jobs, and waited eagerly for the Lord's return--But the Lord didn't return in 1844! In came Ellen G. White to save the day, claiming that instead of returning to the earth, Jesus entered into the Holy of Holies in Heaven to finish His work of atonement. She termed this event the "Investigative Judgment," a doctrine not found anywhere in the Word of God.

It is from that kind of mind set that we read what we read right here on our web site from SDA believers.

The conversation on worship on Saturday and the Sabbath is nothing more than a "smoke screen" so as to teach that we as believers MUST KEEP THE LAW instead of only pure grace to be saved and stay saved.

Yeah, I've browsed though the history and that's what I read.

Isn't more like we must keep selected parts of the law?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yeah, I've browsed though the history and that's what I read.

Isn't more like we must keep selected parts of the law?

Paul tells us what matters is keeping God's laws which includes the 4th commandment. 1 Corinthians 7:19

Some CF posters tells what us matters is not keeping God's laws.

I am going with Paul on this.