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thx to member MMXX for the post that generated my desire to write this Thread for you.
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Saint..
IN general there are 3 Transformations, that happen to every Believer. (born again, and not just water baptized).
The first Transformation is to go from hell bound unbeliever, to "Christ in you the hope of Glory", born again, Saint.
See that?
That is the initial transformation whereby a believer hears the gospel, ("faith comes by hearing") repents of unbelief, and God accept your heart faith in Christ to give you "the gift of righteousness", "the gift of Salvation".
See that "gift"? That is God giving you, what Christ did for you on the Cross 2000 yr ago.
Salvation is What God as Christ did for you, on the Cross. He accomplished salvation, and once it was done, Jesus said..>"IT it finished", and died.
So, that "IT"< is, your salvation. That is God dying for your sin, so that you can be redeemed from it, and become a citizen of Heaven, a Son of God, possessing eternal life. Now, when i talk to a group i also say a "daughter of Christ", as i feel that this FEELS more inclusive for the women, then to be called a "SON of God".
Im absolutely sure that Jesus does not mind, and if you want to use that phrase when dealing with a female or a group and women are in it, then you should.
We should always make the Cross of Christ feel like HOME to our audience.
After all, the Cross is the only Way to get there....
So, the initial transformation, accomplishes some things..
1.It puts Christ in you, and this is your Righteousness, maintained, as your eternal life.
2. It puts you in Christ, and that is why you become a "Heir of God", a "Son"< and "a joint heir with Jesus"
3. You ENTER the Kingdom of God, Spiritually, and it enters you, literally.
4. You become as Righteous as God, who has made you "the righteousness of God, In Christ", born again.
How righteous are you, ? And im talking about the real you, your SPIRIT that is born again...= It is "made righteous", so, this means that its exactly as Righteous as God's Holiness.
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Now, let me park and preach to you for a bit....
What a legalist, (self saver) can never understand, is that the born again SPIRIT, has become the "Righteousness of God", forever. And this SPIRIT is the REAL YOU, ... not your body and not your mind.
The REAL YOU is the born again "new Creation", IN Christ".
The born again have received the Righteousness of God, as "the gift of righteousness", which IS "the gift of Salvation".
So, take a second and think....>"How righteous, is God's Righteousness"? "How Holy is God's righteousness".?
And here is the big question that when answered by revelation understanding is how you are to understand "being made righteous".
Q.) If God has made you righteous, (born again), and Jesus the Righteousness of God is in you,.... then can commandment keeping and self effort achieve what has already been given to you?
So that is why you dont chase commandments and self effort to try to be righteous.
Its because you can't possibly achieve God's Righteousness, and what is moreso, is that you already have it, if you are born again. (and not just water baptized).
GET that REVELATION, and thereby exist as who you are become, "in Christ", as "the righteousness of GOD".... and stop trying to become what you have already become.
See it?
SEE THAT Mind?
So, when a person can see THAT....then they can understand commandment keeping in the right LIGHT, vs trying to self save themselves with this futile pursuit.
Always remember that God is The Savior, and not you trying to keep yourself saved.
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2nd Transformation,...
... is the process of God conforming you into this....
"""the fullness of the stature of Christ""" on earth. This is your DISCIPLESHIP being performed as "working out your salvation",
To work it out, is not to try to keep it, but its you learning how to exist in it, because you already have it.
The way you work it out, is to figure out how to exist so that you are resting in God's Grace that is your power to live holy.
The way you dont do that, is by trying to keep yourself saved.
The way you dont do that is by chasing the law and commandments, trying to perform, so that God will accept you or keep you.
Ive many Threads on this forum that discuss what to BELIEVE about who you are become as a "new Creation, in Christ", and its by this understanding that you begin to exist in right faith, inside the Grace of God.
Jesus said that apart from Him, (all your self effort) you can do nothing, and Paul told you that when he is weak, then GOD is Strong in him.
See that?
That is real faith. That is the renewed mind.
Christianity becomes the power of God through you, just as soon as you stop trying to do it, and start existing instead as "the new Creation", in your renewed mind.
-----..............................
3rd Transformation. :
"conformed into the Image of Christ".
This is the final transformation that God causes, when you get your New Body and are finished, and receive your heavenly inheritance.
This is when you meet your Lord and He and you take a look at "What you did in His Body".
This is the bema or "judgement seat", and Christ is going to show you all you ever did for Him, and all this will be evaluated by one thing..
1. Heart MOTIVE
Heart motive. Jesus is going to look at all your works you ever did for him, and judge them based on WHY you did them. Was it the right motive, or the wrong. ???????
Was it for His glory, or was it to get attention and compliments, and forum "likes", and status in a church building, and perhaps income. ?????????
So, all the works you did that were done for the right motive, receive for you a reward in GLORY.
The others, burn..... as "wood, hay, and stubble".
---------------------------------
See all 3 Transformations?
The born again are "predestined" to be "conformed".......into all 3.
-
Saint..
IN general there are 3 Transformations, that happen to every Believer. (born again, and not just water baptized).
The first Transformation is to go from hell bound unbeliever, to "Christ in you the hope of Glory", born again, Saint.
See that?
That is the initial transformation whereby a believer hears the gospel, ("faith comes by hearing") repents of unbelief, and God accept your heart faith in Christ to give you "the gift of righteousness", "the gift of Salvation".
See that "gift"? That is God giving you, what Christ did for you on the Cross 2000 yr ago.
Salvation is What God as Christ did for you, on the Cross. He accomplished salvation, and once it was done, Jesus said..>"IT it finished", and died.
So, that "IT"< is, your salvation. That is God dying for your sin, so that you can be redeemed from it, and become a citizen of Heaven, a Son of God, possessing eternal life. Now, when i talk to a group i also say a "daughter of Christ", as i feel that this FEELS more inclusive for the women, then to be called a "SON of God".
Im absolutely sure that Jesus does not mind, and if you want to use that phrase when dealing with a female or a group and women are in it, then you should.
We should always make the Cross of Christ feel like HOME to our audience.
After all, the Cross is the only Way to get there....
So, the initial transformation, accomplishes some things..
1.It puts Christ in you, and this is your Righteousness, maintained, as your eternal life.
2. It puts you in Christ, and that is why you become a "Heir of God", a "Son"< and "a joint heir with Jesus"
3. You ENTER the Kingdom of God, Spiritually, and it enters you, literally.
4. You become as Righteous as God, who has made you "the righteousness of God, In Christ", born again.
How righteous are you, ? And im talking about the real you, your SPIRIT that is born again...= It is "made righteous", so, this means that its exactly as Righteous as God's Holiness.
------------------------------------------------------
Now, let me park and preach to you for a bit....
What a legalist, (self saver) can never understand, is that the born again SPIRIT, has become the "Righteousness of God", forever. And this SPIRIT is the REAL YOU, ... not your body and not your mind.
The REAL YOU is the born again "new Creation", IN Christ".
The born again have received the Righteousness of God, as "the gift of righteousness", which IS "the gift of Salvation".
So, take a second and think....>"How righteous, is God's Righteousness"? "How Holy is God's righteousness".?
And here is the big question that when answered by revelation understanding is how you are to understand "being made righteous".
Q.) If God has made you righteous, (born again), and Jesus the Righteousness of God is in you,.... then can commandment keeping and self effort achieve what has already been given to you?
So that is why you dont chase commandments and self effort to try to be righteous.
Its because you can't possibly achieve God's Righteousness, and what is moreso, is that you already have it, if you are born again. (and not just water baptized).
GET that REVELATION, and thereby exist as who you are become, "in Christ", as "the righteousness of GOD".... and stop trying to become what you have already become.
See it?
SEE THAT Mind?
So, when a person can see THAT....then they can understand commandment keeping in the right LIGHT, vs trying to self save themselves with this futile pursuit.
Always remember that God is The Savior, and not you trying to keep yourself saved.
----------
2nd Transformation,...
... is the process of God conforming you into this....
"""the fullness of the stature of Christ""" on earth. This is your DISCIPLESHIP being performed as "working out your salvation",
To work it out, is not to try to keep it, but its you learning how to exist in it, because you already have it.
The way you work it out, is to figure out how to exist so that you are resting in God's Grace that is your power to live holy.
The way you dont do that, is by trying to keep yourself saved.
The way you dont do that is by chasing the law and commandments, trying to perform, so that God will accept you or keep you.
Ive many Threads on this forum that discuss what to BELIEVE about who you are become as a "new Creation, in Christ", and its by this understanding that you begin to exist in right faith, inside the Grace of God.
Jesus said that apart from Him, (all your self effort) you can do nothing, and Paul told you that when he is weak, then GOD is Strong in him.
See that?
That is real faith. That is the renewed mind.
Christianity becomes the power of God through you, just as soon as you stop trying to do it, and start existing instead as "the new Creation", in your renewed mind.
-----..............................
3rd Transformation. :
"conformed into the Image of Christ".
This is the final transformation that God causes, when you get your New Body and are finished, and receive your heavenly inheritance.
This is when you meet your Lord and He and you take a look at "What you did in His Body".
This is the bema or "judgement seat", and Christ is going to show you all you ever did for Him, and all this will be evaluated by one thing..
1. Heart MOTIVE
Heart motive. Jesus is going to look at all your works you ever did for him, and judge them based on WHY you did them. Was it the right motive, or the wrong. ???????
Was it for His glory, or was it to get attention and compliments, and forum "likes", and status in a church building, and perhaps income. ?????????
So, all the works you did that were done for the right motive, receive for you a reward in GLORY.
The others, burn..... as "wood, hay, and stubble".
---------------------------------
See all 3 Transformations?
The born again are "predestined" to be "conformed".......into all 3.
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