3 Transformations

[Hmm]

I'm no longer a sinner either

It must be catching.

 

[Hmm]

When you carnally slander me next time.... to someone else here, as you often do on this forum, then go here.: "Sidon".
I think even someone like you can handle that...

Saying you're (the person known as Sidon) a sinner as everyone else is is not slandering Sidon, it's trying to help Sidon.

 

[ARBITER01]

It must be catching.

Maybe you are still at a point where sin is evident in your life and the flesh still has dominance somewhat over you, but for some of us, we have matured past that and can reckon our old life dead.

 

[Hmm]

Maybe you are still at a point where sin is evident in your life and the flesh still has dominance somewhat over you, but for some of us, we have matured past that and can reckon our old life dead.

Are you incapable of sin?

 

[Sidon]

It must be catching.

He is speaking the NT language that is not understood, unless you discern it spiritually.

The NT says that the word of God is "spiritually discerned", its not read like a pulp fiction, Hmm.

So, this born again member, understands that He is a "new Creation" "made righteous" and that is the real "self".. the "new Creation".......the born again Spirit, that is "One with God".

Try to understand that when a person's Spirit, is born again into God's Holy Spirit, then there is no sin found there, and that is where the born again exist Spiritually.

So, the member is talking to you from the born again perspective, regarding who they have become "IN CHRIST". ......born again Spiritually.

 

[Hmm]

He is speaking the NT language that is not understood, unless you discern it spiritually.

The NT says that the word of God is "spiritually discerned", its not read like a pulp fiction, Hmm.

So, this born again member, understands that He is a "new Creation" "made righteous" and that is the real "self".. the "new Creation".......the born again Spirit, that is "One with God".

Try to understand that when a person's Spirit, is born again into God's Holy Spirit, then there is no sin found there, and that is where the born again exist Spiritually.

So, the member is talking to you from the born again perspective, regarding who they have become "IN CHRIST". ......born again Spiritually.

Let me ask you too then, are you, comrade Sidon, incapable of sin?

 

[ARBITER01]

Are you incapable of sin?

No, I'm just not dominated or led into sin 100% of the time like I was as an unbeliever, hence I'm not a sinner.

Anyone who is born again is no longer a sinner because they no longer have a sinful nature.

 

[Sidon]

Saying you're (the person known as Sidon) a sinner as everyone else is is not slandering Sidon, it's trying to help Sidon.

Jesus already helped "Sidon" become the Righteousness of God, in Christ.

You want to offer me "sinner" in place of that?

Be smarter.

 

[ARBITER01]

Time for church, laters

 

[Sidon]

No, I'm just not dominated or led into sin 100% of the time like I was as an unbeliever, hence I'm not a sinner.

Anyone who is born again is no longer a sinner because they no longer have a sinful nature.

The born again, according to 2 PETER, are " might be partakers of the DIVINE NATURE".

Thats the new one, that comes with the "new Creation", "In Christ", as the end result of being BORN AGAIN.

 

[Hmm]

No, I'm just not dominated or led into sin 100% of the time like I was as an unbeliever, hence I'm not a sinner.

Anyone who is born again is no longer a sinner because they no longer have a sinful nature.

But the common meaning of "sinner" is someone who sins, not someone who is not dominated by sin or someone who doesn't have a "sinful nature". So I take it we're in agreement then - you, me and Sinon are all equally sinners. And that's all I ever said.

 

[Sidon]

Are you incapable of sin?

Your question, when asked to a true born again believer.... is a rhetorical strawman "gotcha", attempt.


Listen...
He's "made free from the power of sin".

He exists as "the righteousness of God, in Christ", as do all the BORN AGAIN.

 

[Hmm]

The born again, according to 2 PETER, are " might be partakers of the DIVINE NATURE".

Thats the new one, that comes with the "new Creation", "In Christ", as the end result of being BORN AGAIN.

That's not answering my question Sid. Are you incapable of sin?

 

[Sidon]

But the common meaning of "sinner" is someone who sins, not someone who is not dominated by sin or someone who doesn't have a "sinful nature". So I take it we're in agreement then - you, me and Sinon are all equally sinners. And that's all I ever said.

You define yourself as a "sinner' and by your "own words you will be judged".

I define myself by becoming this.....>"The righteousness OF GOD....IN Christ".
Im "made Righteous", as that is the eternal reality of all who are born again as "ONE WITH GOD, IN Christ"

 

[Hmm]

Your question, when asked to a true born again believer.... is a rhetorical strawman "gotcha", attempt.


Listen...
He's "made free from the power of sin".

He exists as "the righteousness of God, in Christ", as do all the BORN AGAIN.

So is Sidon incapable of sin?

 

[Hmm]

You define yourself as a "sinner' and by your "own words you will be judged".

I define myself by becoming this.....>"The righteousness OF GOD....IN Christ".
Im "made Righteous", as that is the eternal reality of all who are born again as "ONE WITH GOD, IN Christ"

Okay friend Sidon, I get the picture

 

[Sidon]

That's not answering my question Sid. Are you incapable of sin?

It is the answer.
"born again", that you dont understand, is the answer.
"In Christ", "ONE with God"...."made free from sin"......IS the answer.

That you dont like the answer, is your issue,.....

 

[Sidon]

Okay friend Sidon, I get the picture

You "got" your opinion.

 

[Hmm]

It is the answer.
"born again", that you dont understand, is the answer.
"In Christ", "ONE with God"...."made free from sin"......IS the answer.

That you dont like the answer, is your issue,.....

No worries friend of my youth Sidon. I understand.

 

[Sidon]

No worries friend of my youth Sidon. I understand.

If you understood, then we would both be giving praise to God's "gift of Salvation".

You may start, any time you like, right here on my Thread, that was created to do just that...and did.