Salvation vs : service.

[Sidon]

If someone accused me of teaching a license to sin I would prove them wrong instead of simply saying they’re wrong. Post some quotes of your’s that proves that you don’t teach that we can sin and still be saved. You can’t, because you don’t have any.

Salvation is to be "made Righteous".
You can't do that for yourself.

So, I'll post this for the born again...""but now once in the end of the world Jesus appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.""""

See the "put away sin"?
How does He do that for the born again?

1.) By becoming all their sin on the Cross
2. ) by Dying for all their sin on the Cross

 

[setst777]

You actually went to my page to count my "Likes"?
Is that an adult thing to do?
Are you an adult?

I dont really notice "Likes", unless im about to respond to the post, and then i see that its a "like".
Im grateful for the likes., but, im not here for them.
Im here to teach.
So, you worry about those likes, and i'll concern myself with the next post i teach and the next Thread i write.
Same as always.

Actually, you are the one who brought up "likes" and were concerned about how many likes you get:

Sidon said: ↑
Be serious now.

I get lots of "likes" here., from people who understand the CROSS.

 

[Sidon]

Wow right after your post where you claim that you don’t preach a license to sin you preach a license to sin. How ironic is that?

God not charging sin to the born again, because Jesus has been judged for them all...... is not "preaching license"......its actually.."preaching the Cross"
I would not expect you to know this or understand.

 

[Sidon]

You claim that those who confess their sins are trying to get saved again .

No, ive never said that.
I teach the verse, same as Paul.

This is talking about the person, the self saver, the one that is trying to keep themselves saved by works, commandments, etcs..............this one is confessing to try to keep themselves saved, because they do not trust in Christ to Keep them saved.
That would be you.
You're the one that told this forum that the blood of Jesus does not keep anyone saved.
This explains why the blood of Jesus is not related to your theology.

 

[Sidon]

I get lots of "likes" here., from people who understand the CROSS.

Yes, you posted that i dont "Get any likes">..
That was your original post.
And you see my response to your post?

You have my permission to keep stalking my personal info here on the forum.
That is certainly a better thing for you to do then teach your legalism.

You'll not mind if i dont look at your personal history?
Thx.

 

[Sidon]

So God chose the 12 but He didn’t do it personally?

Did God the Father, choose the 12 for Jesus, "personally".
Is there any other way?
He showed The Christ who they were.
So, sure, that is choosing them, for Jesus.

Later, when Jesus was back in Glory, He chose Paul.

 

[Sidon]

That's Calvinism... so I'm not interested.

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Why should you be.

 

[Sidon]

I follow the gospel of the Kingdom of God, Matthew 5:44, Matthew 24:14.

The Kingdom of God is a Spiritual Kingdom that you enter into by being "born again"
This gospel is Paul's. This is the "preaching of the Cross".

 

[setst777]

Yes, you posted that i dont "Get any likes">..
That was your original post.
And you see my response to your post?

You have my permission to keep stalking my personal info here on the forum.
That is certainly a better thing for you to do then teach your legalism.

You'll not mind if i dont look at your personal history?
Thx.

I never mentioned likes at all.

 

[apollosdtr]

Following Paul is following Jesus, because it is the Lord who called Paul and set him up as "apostle to the Gentiles", gave him "surpassing" revelations, the "revelation of the mystery", the "unsearchable riches of Christ", "by grace ye are saved", etc. If all the things Paul says are true, we better "follow him", i.e. receive his instructions as if from the Lord and follow them. The Lord gave him the latest updates for us:

1For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery…"—Eph. 3

Ephesians is so above and beyond, it boggles my mind why anyone would want to go back to a pre-revelation of the mystery Kingdom Gospel addressed to the house of Israel, who were told:

"And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."—Matthew 3:10

They got cut, as we now know, and in came the "dispensation of the grace of God" and "out of twain he made one new man".

Personally, yes, I think it’s heresy to oppose Paul to Jesus and end up not following Paul, which in truth is following Jesus. Sounds weird but there it is.

It's pretty odd that you say Paul gave the latest updates... and then you quote Matthew 3:10... as though Paul said it?... not seeming to be aware that fruits are entirely different in each of the two dispensations. And you show your lack of understanding of the Kingdom Gospel by mangling what Jesus said to make it fit with Paul. Sadly, there's nothing new about that.

Since you showed up late to the party, let me bring you up to speed:
Galatians 2:7-9 says there are two gospels for the two stewardships.
The one for the gentiles of Paul is referred to as the grace gospel.
The one for the lost sheep of the house of Israel is what Jesus taught His Galilean Apostles which He calls the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

Mark 1:14-15 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the Gospel.

Matthew 24:14 And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

[Sidon]

I never mentioned likes at all.

You brought it up again in post 702, today.
That one also counts.

Listen, dont let your dishonestly keep you from trying it a few more times.
Isn't that why you're here?

 

[apollosdtr]

The Kingdom of God is a Spiritual Kingdom that you enter into by being "born again"
This gospel is Paul's. This is the "preaching of the Cross".

See what has to happen to make the two different gospels fit together?

Because that's not what Jesus says, at all.

Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the Gospel.

Matthew 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

Matthew 13:10-11 And the Disciples came, and said unto Him, Why speakest Thou unto them (the multitudes) in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given.

Commandments in the Kingdom of Heaven

Matthew 5:19-Matthew 7:28 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Obviously this Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven is not Paul's gospel.

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and disciple all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[apollosdtr]

Actually, you are the one who brought up "likes" and were concerned about how many likes you get:

Sidon said: ↑
Be serious now.

I get lots of "likes" here., from people who understand the CROSS.

I never mentioned likes at all.

You brought it up again in post 702, today.
That one also counts.

Listen, dont let your dishonestly keep you from trying it a few more times.
Isn't that why you're here?

"First of all, what would i be doing here, if im here worried about "likes".
So, really?
Are you kidding me with this petty nonsense, bnr32fan?

I'll leave that "likes" concern to baby Christians who need "likes" on forums, on FaceBook, on Twitter and Instagram, so that they can feel they have "value"."
-- Sidon, How to Walk in the Spirit, page 81, post 1602
How to walk in the Spirit.

 

[Sidon]

See what has to happen to make the two different gospels fit together?

There is one Gospel.

Jesus on the Cross.

That's 1.

This is why Paul says you are this if you preach or teach that there is another. Galatians 1:8

 

[Sidon]

I'll leave that "likes" concern to baby Christians who need "likes" on forums, on FaceBook, on Twitter and Instagram, so that they can feel they have "value"."
-- Sidon, How to Walk in the Spirit, page 81, post 1602
How to walk in the Spirit.

Yes, i agree.

So, when you or someone else wants to talk about your "likes' or asks me about mine, then i'll tell you to worry about something that matters.
Take those concerns to Twitter, FB, and Instagram, as i told the first person who mentioned my "Likes".
Same as im telling you now, Ligurian.
If you need me to tell you again, then bring it up again.
You decide.

And while you are thinking about my "likes", here is something else you can think about.

Salvation is Christ on the Cross, bringing you the offer of ETERNAL RECONCILIATION back to God, based on HIS BLOOD being shed as the only REASON.
John 14:6

So, when a believer can't SEE THIS, then they fall into a mind that is deceived.
"In the flesh" "fallen from Grace".
And this mind, is not able to SEE that FINISHED Salvation is what GOD DID on the Cross.
They instead SEE Salvation as...> '""""I must do this, and i must do that, and i must keep this, and i must not do that, and if i complete all my LIST of Do's and Don'ts then, im able to KEEP MYSELF SAVED, i hope."""

 

[apollosdtr]

Paul wrote this epistle.
In it is quite a bit of excellent doctrine, but, there is also quite a bit in it that is not written to the Church.

"Because you pretend there is no credible Scholarship that says Hebrews was written by Barnabus... there's this:

Authorship of the Epistle to the Hebrews | Religious Studies Center"
--How to Walk in the Spirit, page 81, post 1609
How to walk in the Spirit.

 

[Sidon]

"Because you pretend there is no credible Scholarship that says Hebrews was written by Barnabus... there's this:

Authorship of the Epistle to the Hebrews | Religious Studies Center"
--How to Walk in the Spirit, page 81, post 1609
How to walk in the Spirit.

You posted that one already ???

So, again, that is something that you feel is "credible Scholarship", because they. have put out a work, regarding the subject "who authored Hebrews".
Other "credible scholarship" does not agree.

What i do is just let the NT show me the truth.
Here is the truth.
If you read the last 10 verses of ACTS 28, then compare this to Hebrews 10., you see its the same thing happening, AS the same person talking to these same Hebrews.
You dont need to be a "scholar" to see this, you just need to be a sincere NT student, and not someone who avoids Paul.

Bnr32fan feels that the "church fathers' is the "credible Scholarship".

 

[apollosdtr]

"First of all, what would i be doing here, if im here worried about "likes".
So, really?
Are you kidding me with this petty nonsense, bnr32fan?

I'll leave that "likes" concern to baby Christians who need "likes" on forums, on FaceBook, on Twitter and Instagram, so that they can feel they have "value"."
-- Sidon, How to Walk in the Spirit, page 81, post 1602
How to walk in the Spirit.

After saying likes are for baby Christians ...

I get lots of "likes" here., from people who understand the CROSS.

You brag about getting lots of likes ...

Yes, i agree.

And then you seem to be agreeing with yourself ...
So... Welcome to Babyhood, Sidon.

 

[BNR32FAN]

No, i didnt say that.... you said that.
What i said is that there are not 2 faiths.

There is one Faith, regarding being born again.
"faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God".

IN Hebrews 6:1, this is dealing with a self saver, a legalist, who thinks that when they do something carnal, they need to run and confess it so that by doing this, God takes them back.
So, this heretic spends their entire Christianity, thinking that their carnal deed breaks relationship, or they will define it as "fellowship", and then if they hit that confession button the next 4561 times they sin that year, the God takes them back, 4561 times, that year.
Kinda crazy, sure, but, as long as these types are born again, and not just water baptized thinking they are born again, then at least they are not going to Hell.
They'll do nothing for God, as this type of heresy keeps them out of God's real work.

You did say there are two faiths and I’ve already quoted you twice on this.

Yes.
That faith is THE "renewed mind"........its not the first faith, that God accepted to save a person.

Salvation vs : service.

Right there you just said that faith (the faith in Colossians 1:23) is not the first faith (Hebrews 6:1) that God accepted to save a person. Right there you are saying that these are two different types of faith.

 

[apollosdtr]

If you read the last 10 verses of ACTS 28, then compare this to Hebrews 10., you see its the same thing happening, AS the same person talking to these same Hebrews.
You dont need to be a "scholar" to see this, you just need to be a sincere NT student, and not someone who avoids Paul.

So what? Luke and Barnabus were fellow travellers with Paul, and Luke seems to have got group opinion for what he wrote in his books.

I can't hold two entirely different gospels by pretending their differences don't exist.
The Revelation of Jesus tells me not to do that. And I love Jesus, so I keep His commandments.