More than 150 Houston hospital workers fired or quit after refusing COVID-19 vaccine

[FireDragon76]

I don't know about that... I'll settle for a "mid-sized pond"

You're too modest.

Right now, with the times we live in... it's blatantly obvious to me the Dunning-Kruger Effect is in overdrive in the general population. People that can think critically, even in a small degree, are in short supply. And way too many people believe expertise just grows on trees or can be syphoned out of the yellow tabloid dross of the internet.

 

[RDKirk]

Out of a staff of 25,000. So, it's less than 1%. But still.

At least 153 employees of a Houston hospital — including nurses and other medical staff — were fired or resigned Tuesday after refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19, one of the first mass terminations since vaccinations started in the U.S. this year, reinvigorating a national anti-vaccine movement.

The employees were given until midnight Tuesday to get vaccinated, and “very few” resigned or retired early to avoid vaccination, said Gale Smith, a hospital spokeswoman.

“Employees who did not meet the deadline were terminated effective today,” Smith said in a statement Tuesday. “The employees who became compliant during the suspension period returned to work the day after they became compliant.”

Of the hospital’s staff, 285 were granted medical or religious exemptions from the vaccine and 332 were allowed to defer it, Boom said, but most of the rest were vaccinated by the hospital’s deadline.

A Texas federal judge dismissed the employees’ case against the hospital earlier this month, rejecting their argument that the hospital was forcing them to take an experimental vaccine. (The case is being appealed.)

A great spiritual delusion.

Normally smart people suddenly acting like imbeciles.

A great spiritual delusion.

 

[cow451]

A great spiritual delusion.

Could a poster elaborate?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

#blush

Here's us receiving our medals:

...and yes, I did have to crop one of those images a bit just to keep it within the forum guidelines lol.

 

[FireDragon76]

A great spiritual delusion.

Normally smart people suddenly acting like imbeciles.

A great spiritual delusion.

During the Black Death people did all sorts of nonsensical and desperate stuff, other that critically examining the situation. Self-flagellation, processions of the Virgin Mary, Jew bashing, and so on. Only a handful of people were educated enough in medicine to discern anything remotely close to the truth. Many opted for convenient explanations that fit prevailing narratives, no matter how ungrounded in observation they actually were.

 

[RDKirk]

Could a poster elaborate?

Normally intelligent people suddenly acting like imbeciles.

A great spiritual delusion.

 

[RDKirk]

During the Black Death people did all sorts of nonsensical and desperate stuff, other that critically examining the situation. Self-flagellation, processions of the Virgin Mary, Jew bashing, and so on. Only a handful of people were educated enough in medicine to discern anything remotely close to the truth. Many opted for convenient explanations that fit prevailing narratives, no matter how ungrounded in observation they actually were.

"Medicine" is merely knowing the rules of God's creation. Refusing to see God in His creation is the reason He gives them over to a spiritual delusion.

 

[Aldebaran]

You've "heard" of people on websites propagated by bots and Russian trolls, not serious journalists.

That's your assumption.

 

[Aldebaran]

Because the ICU units around the country aren't filling up to capacity with them and refrigeration trucks aren't holding their dead bodies.

Nice quote mine. You should have read to the end of my post where there was a link showing that I was correct that people are ending up hospitalized from their vaccination.

 

[FireDragon76]

Nice quote mine. You should have read to the end of my post where there was a link showing that I was correct that people are ending up hospitalized from their vaccination.

People end up hospitalized from eating white bread... what is your point?

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Maintaining the same position, regardless of new information, is unscientific and irrational.

Truth.

 

[Aldebaran]

People end up hospitalized from eating white bread... what is your point?

Should I use that example when a report of someone getting Covid and ends up in the hospital is mentioned as a reason to get injected with a still-unapproved "vaccine"?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Nice quote mine. You should have read to the end of my post where there was a link showing that I was correct that people are ending up hospitalized from their vaccination.

Unless the number (and rate) of people hospitalized and dying from the vaccine exceeds the number of people hospitalized and dying from the disease itself, then that's really not a valid defense for refusing the vaccine.

IE: if 18 people out of 170 million die from an adverse reaction to the vaccine, that doesn't equate to 600k out of a population of 300 million dying from the virus itself.

It's simple math we're dealing with here.

Statistically speaking, you're better off getting the vaccine than refusing it.

 

[Aldebaran]

Unless the number (and rate) of people hospitalized and dying from the vaccine exceeds the number of people hospitalized and dying from the disease itself, then that's really not a valid defense for refusing the vaccine.

IE: if 18 people out of 170 million die from an adverse reaction to the vaccine, that doesn't equate to 600k out of a population of 300 million dying from the virus itself.

It's simple math we're dealing with here.

Statistically speaking, you're better off getting the vaccine than refusing it.

We could argue about those numbers all night and it wouldn't do any good.

 

[cow451]

Unless the number (and rate) of people hospitalized and dying from the vaccine exceeds the number of people hospitalized and dying from the disease itself, then that's really not a valid defense for refusing the vaccine.

IE: if 18 people out of 170 million die from an adverse reaction to the vaccine, that doesn't equate to 600k out of a population of 300 million dying from the virus itself.

It's simple math we're dealing with here.

Statistically speaking, you're better off getting the vaccine than refusing it.

Those that died from COVID-19 would agree.

 

[FireDragon76]

Should I use that example when a report of someone getting Covid and ends up in the hospital is mentioned as a reason to get injected with a still-unapproved "vaccine"?

Good grief... the vaccines are approved.

 

[cow451]

We could argue about those numbers all night and it wouldn't do any good.

The numbers remain the numbers.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

We could argue about those numbers all night and it wouldn't do any good.

It would actually do a lot of good for anyone who's actually concerned with statistical probabilities and basic statistical analysis.

The fact is, a person refusing to take the covid vaccine is statistically more like to be hospitalized or die of covid, than a person who takes the vaccine is to be hospitalized or die from a vaccine reaction. Even if you narrowed down the age range to people under 30, that's still the case.

And that doesn't even touch on the externalities aspect. (IE: a person in their 20's who may have a mild case, and spread it to someone in a more vulnerable age group)

 

[FireDragon76]

Here in the UK, there is a lot of political talk of needing two vaccinations to go on holiday. If that is the case, then denying people travel, or suggesting that people will be denied travel, is a form of coercion.

I call shennanigans.

Nobody is entitled to enter another country and potentially spread disease. Especially seeing as the UK isn't even an EU member anymore, a disgruntled, unvaccinated UK citizen has no moral leg to stand on in this matter.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Those that died from COVID-19 would agree.

Even people who nearly died would agree