What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[Astrid]

What is a car an imitation of? A horse? A camel?

Please.

Ooh. How about the printing press? What in nature is like that?

Here I thought it was just us Chinese who could only imitate.

 

[renniks]

What is a car an imitation of? A horse? A camel?

Please.

Ooh. How about the printing press? What in nature is like that?

"The base sequence in nucleic acids encodes substantial structural and functional information into the biopolymer. This encoded information provides the basis for the tailoring and assembly of DNA machines. A DNA machine is defined as a molecular device that exhibits the following fundamental features. (1) It performs a fuel-driven mechanical process that mimics macroscopic machines. (2) The mechanical process requires an energy input, "fuel." (3) The mechanical operation is accompanied by an energy consumption process that leads to "waste products." (4) The cyclic operation of the DNA devices, involves the use of "fuel" and "anti-fuel" ingredients. A variety of DNA-based machines are described, including the construction of "tweezers," "walkers," "robots," "cranes," "transporters," "springs," "gears," and interlocked cyclic DNA structures acting as reconfigurable catenanes, rotaxanes, and rotors. Different "fuels", such as nucleic acid strands, pH (H⁺/OH⁻), metal ions, and light, are used to trigger the mechanical functions of the DNA devices."

"The more we learn about all the incredible functionality that’s present on a microscopic level of life, the more many of us are filled with the desire to be able to recapitulate similar kinds of functionality synthetically,’ says William Shih, a biochemistry professor at Harvard University in Massachusetts, US."

Cars? Please, so primitive compared to God's creations.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Cars? Please, so primitive compared to God's creations.

You didn't answer the question. What in nature is either a car or the printing press an imitation of?

ETA: And Johannes Gutenberg could not be imitating DNA

 

[Hans Blaster]

What is a car an imitation of? A horse? A camel?

It's a *HORSELESS* carriage (what a dumb spelling is that), obviously.

Ooh. How about the printing press? What in nature is like that?

Reflections on the water and how they can stain your parchment. Clearly.

 

[Tinker Grey]

It's a *HORSELESS* carriage (what a dumb spelling is that), obviously.



Reflections on the water and how they can stain your parchment. Clearly.

Ah yes, but it is the carriage we are speaking of and not the horse.

 

[Astrid]

Ah yes, but it is the carriage we are speaking of and not the horse.

Wheels...
A copy of the flagellum.

 

[dlamberth]

No we aren't the original creators of anything. We only create imitations of what God already created.

We are co-creators with God.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Wheels...
A copy of the flagellum.

I don't think those humans who developed wheels knew about flagellum.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, the Jewish fictional writers were quite clever weren't they. I don't for one minute believe they were writing history (as do most scholars), although they may have been writing something equivalent to today's historical fiction.

In other words, you don't know and it's their fault?

 

[Astrid]

I don't think those humans who developed wheels knew about flagellum.

Oh.

 

[renniks]

You didn't answer the question. What in nature is either a car or the printing press an imitation of?

ETA: And Johannes Gutenberg could not be imitating DNA

There's always that one guy that deliberately doesn't get the point.
God" I created every thing including you."

Humans: " We have made cars now. Take that!"

 

[renniks]

I don't think those humans who developed wheels knew about flagellum.

Yes, we are always playing catch up before we even know we are.

 

[renniks]

We are co-creators with God.

That's an optimistic way of looking at it. We take whatever he has made and modify it, which is great, but we are still tiny little specks of dust in comparison.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, is this in the Bible? Nope again! Another made up idea to solve various problems that arise from assuming the Bible is inspired and having to deal with text.

Really?

If that's true, why did Jesus' disciples go on preaching Christianity, even after they started dying?

Acts 12:1 Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.
2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

How's come John didn't say, "Whoa! What gives here!? I thought Jesus was coming right back!?"

And I'd ask you to back up your remark that ...

Jesus also clearly stated his imminent return.

... but I know you can't do it; because it's not there.

And why was the belief that John would not die before Jesus' return such a big issue, if they all thought His return was right around the corner?

John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?

Even Paul gives the order of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[AV1611VET]

All mythology and all nonsense.

You're mything the point.

 

[AV1611VET]

I like the diversity of our family. Nothing to be embarrassed about. There is lots of family sacredness going on there.

If I saw your family album, would it include your cousins?

 

[dlamberth]

If I saw your family album, would it include your cousins?

That would be a great picture! I mean it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Great point! It's kind of like worrying about an atheist because she is atheist who is an upstanding citizen, is kind to everyone, never says anything against people, honest, hardworking etc. more than the wretched Christian fundamentalist who hates everyone (including other Christians), cheats on his wife, doesn't obey the law (because its secular), loves to puff himself up by saying how many times he has read his Bible, gone to church and how many Bible verses he knows.

You keep strange company.

 

[AV1611VET]

That would be a great picture! I mean it.

Do you think they would accept you as their cousin?

 

[AV1611VET]

We are co-creators with God.

Any atheists here want to agree with this statement?

Any atheists here want to challenge this guy's beliefs with your scientific method?

I didn't think so.