Arkansas House Votes to Allow Teaching of Creationism in Science Classes

[VirOptimus]

Scientific law supports that belief.

Scientific law? You are severly clueless about science.

There is no data supporting the existance of god(s).

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no data supporting the existance of god(s).

I hope you had a blessed Easter.

 

[VirOptimus]

I hope you had a blessed Easter.

I dont belive in blessings.

But my easter was very good.

 

[AV1611VET]

I dont belive in blessings.

You don't say grace before you eat!?

 

[renniks]

Another example of a lack of critical thinking.
The issue isn't about how popular a theory is but whether creationism stands on its own two feet as a mainstream scientific theory.
To do so it must be supported by evidence; faith is not evidence unless you can demonstrate otherwise.

There's plenty of evidence. You just choose not to see it.

 

[Speedwell]

There's plenty of evidence. You just choose not to see it.

How can you tell? You haven't shown us any.

 

[VirOptimus]

You don't say grace before you eat!?

Never have, never will.

 

[renniks]

How can you tell? You haven't shown us any.

My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.

 

[Speedwell]

My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.

So explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth is 6000 years old. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth was entirely covered with water ca. 2600 BC. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence of Special Creation.

Perhaps you think that your eyes are evidence that the theory of evolution is false. Even if you were right, that would not in itself be evidence of creationism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.

I think that you are conflating confirmation bias with evidence.

Scientific evidence is very well defined. Do you have any scientific evidence for your beliefs?

 

[dlamberth]

My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.

In reading your reply I'm wondering if you might be seeing the Glory of God in Nature and than translating the wonders of that vision as a 6 day creation. I fully get the seeing the Glory of God in Nature aspect but where I differ is that I see it as part of the evolutionary aspect of the Creating process. That's mainly because the Earth itSelf has shown us that it is through evolution that God Creates.

 

[AV1611VET]

In reading your reply I'm wondering if you might be seeing the Glory of God in Nature and than translating the wonders of that vision as a 6 day creation. I fully get the seeing the Glory of God in Nature aspect but where I differ is that I see it as part of the evolutionary aspect of the Creating process. That's mainly because the Earth itSelf has shown us that it is through evolution that God Creates.

Do you see atheists as blind?

 

[Speedwell]

Do you see atheists as blind?

I think they see the glory in nature as clearly as we do--they just don't attribute it to God.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

They would have to teach all of them.
The Hindu, Norse, Kemetic, Babylonian/Akkadan, Aztec, Inca, Mayan, East Celtic, Swahili, Kymer, Greek, Proto-Indo-European, etc etc etc...

I am conservative. Let them stick with Greco-Roman.

 

[dlamberth]

Do you see atheists as blind?

It's the supposed believers in God whom I often see as blind.
I don't concern myself with atheist much as I myself have gone through that process.

 

[renniks]

So explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth is 6000 years old. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth was entirely covered with water ca. 2600 BC. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence of Special Creation.

Never made any such claims. You're just making stuff up.

 

[renniks]

I think that you are conflating confirmation bias with evidence.

Scientific evidence is very well defined. Do you have any scientific evidence for your beliefs?

Tons. But nothing you would accept.
"Where there’s a genuine controversy, as there is about Darwinian theory, anyone in search of truth has no choice but to weigh the evidence for himself. The observation that, beyond doubt, thousands of scientists are skeptical and encourage further “careful examination” of the question, is one reason every thoughtful adult owes it to herself to consider the evidence without just passively swallowing the majority view."
Oh, but that's a quote from someone who accepts ID, so you wouldn't even consider it. Kind of like one political party will never accept anything from the other side.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's the supposed believers in God whom I often see as blind.

They aren't the focus of my question though.

I don't concern myself with atheist much ...

But Mother Earth does ... right?

Didn't you say ...

That's mainly because the Earth itSelf has shown us that it is through evolution that God Creates.

Who's "us" in your remark?

... as I've myself have gone through that process.

And you were apparently deaf and blind at the time, right?

After all, if Mother Earth is so vociferous, why do atheists exist?

 

[renniks]

Do you see atheists as blind?

They are blind. We all see through a glass darkly, but atheist don't have the Light to allow them to even glimpse reality through that glass.

 

[AV1611VET]

They are blind. We all see through a glass darkly, but atheist don't have the Light to allow them to even glimpse reality through that glass.

Yup.