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Does white privilege exist in the US?

Does white privilege exist in the US?

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Asians and Nigerians are doing great, that's awesome!. So I'm sure white people can't wait to move into a Nigerian neighborhood. No, everybody wan't to get to the white neighborhood where the most safety is.
What state do you live in where they have neighborhoods where only Nigerians live, or only white people live? All the neighborhoods I’ve ever seen have multiple races living there.
Being a prosperous group of people does not give you the numbers or resources to win elections except in Asian or Nigerian parts of town.
All the Asian or Nigerian parts of town I’ve seen are the business districts; not neighborhoods.
The resources that well off whites have in this country can turn whole elections in any given district nationally.
Are you assuming all well off white people vote the same, and fight for the same causes?
I think there are advantages to being a member of any ethnic group. To me in the USA, whites have the most lucrative advantages.
What lucrative advantages do white people have that non-whites do not?
 
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Being white opens a lot more doors than it closes, although I agree that affirmative action should be used only for minority students whose families have not already achieved material access and the educational and cultural advantages it affords.
 
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I am retired, so I am not actively seeking employment, housing, or anything else for which I might experience discrimination.

But in my 70 years, I have never recalled being denied any opportunity or being unaccepted because of my race. I have experienced discrimination based on my gender, because there weren't laws protecting women against discrimination in obtaining credit, qualifying for loans, etc.
 
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I am retired, so I am not actively seeking employment, housing, or anything else for which I might experience discrimination.

But in my 70 years, I have never recalled being denied any opportunity or being unaccepted because of my race.

The question asked if you had ever been preferred because of your race, not whether you had ever been denied a position because of it.

We all know that there are "affirmative action" laws and etc., which give hiring preferences to minorities.
 
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What lucrative advantages do white people have that non-whites do not?
They have the advantage of their white skin. White skin and a Christian name will put you at the top of the resume pile and will get you considered by a white supervisor to be someone they can relate to better than a person whose culture, dialect, or general appearance they fear, doubt, or have no experience with.

It's not because the big bad white man hates everything not straight, white, and male. It's about comfort and familiarity. There are majority WASP CEOs in the USA. WHite CEO=whithe upper management-white upper management=white middle management.........and trickle on down from there.
 
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They have the advantage of their white skin. White skin and a Christian name will put you at the top of the resume pile and will get you considered by a white supervisor to be someone they can relate to better than a person whose culture, dialect, or general appearance they fear, doubt, or have no experience with.
Depending on the supervisor, having a noticeably non-white name and background will get the next person put at the top of that supervisor's list, so there isn't any underlying, one-sided, across the board, institutional preference at work.
 
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I am retired, so I am not actively seeking employment, housing, or anything else for which I might experience discrimination.

But in my 70 years, I have never recalled being denied any opportunity or being unaccepted because of my race. I have experienced discrimination based on my gender, because there weren't laws protecting women against discrimination in obtaining credit, qualifying for loans, etc.
You never worked for an employer with an affirmative action program that gave preference to hiring and promoting minorities? You never noticed a disproportionate number of minorities working in government jobs? You did not notice that the Obama administration gave serious preference to appointing blacks? You never had anyone in your family denied college or grad school because minorities were given preference? I am not arguing the right or wrong of these programs I am just pointing out that you may have missed a few things that were happening right in front of you. You want to experience being unaccepted try to join a social group that is black. Such as all the black athletes on your team that only socialize in their own group. you may be on the team but you are not part of their group and they will let you know in no uncertain terms. You can be friends with them individually but you are not accepted at their table.
 
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The question asked if you had ever been preferred because of your race, not whether you had ever been denied a position because of it.

We all know that there are "affirmative action" laws and etc., which give hiring preferences to minorities.
Do you think the majority of black hires are due to affirmative action? AA is not designed to hand blacks a job on a silver platter. It is there to assure people don't have discriminatory hiring practices. This means......why did you pass over these qualified minorities to hire less qualified people of your own ethnicity/religion/gender/whatever.
Depending on the supervisor, having a noticeably non-white name and background will get the next person put at the top of that supervisor's list, so there isn't any underlying, one-sided, across the board, institutional preference at work.
How large is that list of black managers who do the same thing and hire the people they feel more comfortable around? Black CEOs and upper management who set policy in big corporations anre a minute fraction of the WASPS who lead industry.

Not because they are Nazi sympathizers. They have owned this country since the genocide of the indigenous people of the Americas. They took this continent, they owned it, they still own it. It doesn't make them evil, it makes them the majority. Majority rules the minority
 
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Such as all the black athletes on your team that only socialize in their own group. you may be on the team but you are not part of their group and they will let you know in no uncertain terms. You can be friends with them individually but you are not accepted at their table.
What do you think their experience is being accepted at the white man's table? Could it be a similar experience?

Having the maturity to accept people from another ethnicity often comes with time. As people are exposed to more and more other people, they see what we have in common over time. As young people, we just want to fit in so we go where it's easy to get along....our own people. A lot goes on that is unfair to all kinds of people.
 
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Ask the question without also adding the "majority of" (black hires) which alters the issue we've been discussing.
What I'm asking is how commonly do you think it is that a minority with fewer qualifications is hired over a white with more qualifications? The only companies that are affected by Affirmative Action are companies that discriminate.
 
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My personal opinion is AA does more harm than good. All it does is give white males an excuse for why they didn't get the job. They have no idea what that black man was hired over them. They just assume it's AA because "there's no way he could be more qualified than me I mean look at his dark skin. He just can't be as qualified as I am another AA hire."

It'd demeaning to everyone. Just enforce the Civil Rights Law and we don't need it.
 
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I put this out there before but I am of mixed race so I have a very unique perspective on this issue.

I was raised by a white woman and I have 1/2 siblings who are all white. We lived in a poor neighborhood so there were minorities all over. I got teased for "talking white." How could I talk any other way growing up in that house?

Fast forward to teenage years. I communicate more effectively with the managers at Burger King so I got promoted past those same guys who teased me for "talking white." Every job I had after that was the same thing. I could communicate in the acceptable white vernacular that got me past my friends who had broken English.

In that regard, I feel like I have benefitted from white privilege. I could talk the language of the people in charge and they accepted me more because of my vocabulary. It's about familiarity more than race.
 
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What I'm asking is how commonly do you think it is that a minority with fewer qualifications is hired over a white with more qualifications? The only companies that are affected by Affirmative Action are companies that discriminate.
Strictly speaking, that's right, but every important corporation and government office has quotas and makes reports about their hiring by race.
 
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They have the advantage of their white skin. White skin and a Christian name will put you at the top of the resume pile and will get you considered by a white supervisor to be someone they can relate to better than a person whose culture, dialect, or general appearance they fear, doubt, or have no experience with.
Due to slavery, Black people are just as likely to have a Christian name as white people. Skin color isn’t an issue with a resume.
 
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I put this out there before but I am of mixed race so I have a very unique perspective on this issue.

I was raised by a white woman and I have 1/2 siblings who are all white. We lived in a poor neighborhood so there were minorities all over. I got teased for "talking white." How could I talk any other way growing up in that house?

Fast forward to teenage years. I communicate more effectively with the managers at Burger King so I got promoted past those same guys who teased me for "talking white." Every job I had after that was the same thing. I could communicate in the acceptable white vernacular that got me past my friends who had broken English.

In that regard, I feel like I have benefitted from white privilege. I could talk the language of the people in charge and they accepted me more because of my vocabulary. It's about familiarity more than race.
The ability to speak proper English is not "white privilege", that's common sense in the service industry. When you work in an industry where you have to deal with customers, the ability to speak proper English is very important and should get you ahead of someone with poor English speaking skills.
 
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