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Wait...I keep getting told there was no fraud

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Trump has indicated they are "losers" so why let them vote?

I consider him the biggest looser of all time!! I may be in hospice and in a wheel chair---but I am not a looser! I am a child of the most high God and have better benefits and pension plan than he has!! And for those who think he is a child of God also---He lost that status when he said he has no need of Christ's forgiveness for he does no wrong!! That's why he lost---God is working on humbling him, maybe if he gets down low enough he will look up and see his need of God.
 
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That's why he lost---God is working on humbling him, maybe if he gets down low enough he will look up and see his need of God.
Sometimes people need to be humbled too and will get their lesson in getting what they wished for lol. Sometimes leaving a frying pan for the fire can result in similar if not worse damage.
 
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That's why he lost---God is working on humbling him, maybe if he gets down low enough he will look up and see his need of God.
D Trump has never seen a need for god.
I don't hold that against him. I don't see a need for gods either.

But Trump did play up the Christianity thing in order to win the Christian vote. Anyone looking to take the Republican vote has to at least pay lip service to god and Christians.
 
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Actually, he did sing "We Are the Champions of the World" at LiveAid. Since that is one of the most iconic and viewed performances of the song, that is likely why people remember the song with "of the World" added.
How do you know so much???
 
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D Trump has never seen a need for god.
I don't hold that against him. I don't see a need for gods either.

But Trump did play up the Christianity thing in order to win the Christian vote. Anyone looking to take the Republican vote has to at least pay lip service to god and Christians.
Yeah we'll have an avowed atheist president maybe after we elect a transgender machine-human hybrid Christian.
 
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Freddie Mercury never sings “...of the WORLD” in “We Are the Champions”, yet people “remember” it that way.
Wait... What?

At first I thought I was totally misremembering the lyrics to the song, so I looked them of and they do sing "of the world". So I thought maybe it wasn't Freddie singing that particular part, so I found the isolated vocals, which can be found in this article: Freddie Mercury's isolated vocals on 'We Are The Champions' will haunt you forever

And it sure sounds like Freddie singing that part. Am I missing something? Or did a joke go over my head?

EDIT: OH he added it at Live Aid, that happens to be the version I always listen to.

EDIT2: Hrmmm the article I linked to above says it's the isolated vocals from the original recording. Wonder if they just didn't put that part in in the final recording?
 
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Guess they needed an investigative agency to request access (warrant) to the evidence so it could then be used if found. Guess they needed to find an agency willing to co-operate first.

Then they should of skipped the courts. No court I have ever heard of lets you make wild accusations and then use their authority to go looking for evidence.
 
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Most of the courts did look at the evidence provided to them by Trump's lawyers and found them lacking evidence. You should read some of the decisions, where they talk about the affidavits and why they don't show any real issues. Yes, there were cases that were dismissed for "procedural" reasons, like the Texas case where they went directly to the Supreme Court, but those were not filed by Trump's lawyers.

Next, since you don't want to trust the courts, then you have Trump's DoJ, where AG Barr was tasked with investigating all the claims of election issues. Barr handpicked members of the DoJ and FBI to investigate and they found no evidence of widespread voter fraud, nothing that would change the election results. If that isn't enough, Homeland Security -- again, part of the Trump administration, with the leaders handpicked by Trump -- found no major election issues, proclaiming it the safest and most secure election in US history.

And, just to add a bit more, the International observer groups (also Pres. Carter's observer group) -- all organizations that know what to look for, having worked fraudulent elections -- found no evidence of widespread fraud, they declared the election was run properly and well.

The evidence does not support claims that the election was "stolen" or had "massive fraud."

I'm not saying that the judges were wrong...never have and won't.

It's just a means of creating transparency for a massive portion of the electorate.

That's what would calm a ton of them down.

You have an overwhelming majority of people who believe Trump's claims about fraud despite the court cases.
Even a large portion of Dems believe that they won by fraud but don't care because they like/agree with the side who won.

Biden promised all kinds of transparency and honesty and all kinds of stuff that he is already taking back. This is one thing that he could do that would help calm the whole nation.
 
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This is one thing that he could do that would help calm the whole nation.
He is depending on the nation doing what it always does.. like cats either have short term memory, or more likely... get distracted by some other nonsense.
 
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Then what are the use of warrants?
They let the DOJ investigate crimes and are based on having evidence of a crime being committed. They do not simply issue warrants because someone wants to go digging.
 
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I'm not saying that the judges were wrong...never have and won't.

It's just a means of creating transparency for a massive portion of the electorate.

That's what would calm a ton of them down.

You have an overwhelming majority of people who believe Trump's claims about fraud despite the court cases.
Even a large portion of Dems believe that they won by fraud but don't care because they like/agree with the side who won.

Biden promised all kinds of transparency and honesty and all kinds of stuff that he is already taking back. This is one thing that he could do that would help calm the whole nation.


No we do not.
 
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Even a large portion of Dems believe that they won by fraud but don't care because they like/agree with the side who won.

Where are you getting this from ?

You have an overwhelming majority of people who believe Trump's claims about fraud despite the court cases.

Overwhelming majority of Trump Supporters.
 
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They do not simply issue warrants because someone wants to go digging.
Happens all the time based on supposition where homes are invaded with a warrant and computers and the like taken. How is this any different? Could law enforcement be politically motivated?
 
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Happens all the time based on supposition where homes are invaded with a warrant and computers and the like taken. How is this any different? Could law enforcement be politically motivated?

No it does not. Warrants require probable cause.
 
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How do you know so much???

I'm old. ;) Though in this case, I Googled it, since I knew I'd heard them sing "of the World." I recall becoming a fan of Queen when they released their Killer Queen album.
 
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Happens all the time based on supposition where homes are invaded with a warrant and computers and the like taken. How is this any different? Could law enforcement be politically motivated?

As others have stated, this is false. As others point out, probably cause is needed to get a search warrant. In the case of Trump's lawyers court cases, they never established "probable cause." While the Trump campaign talks about the hundreds of affidavits, the vast majority don't actually show any wrongdoing.

Again, it was not just the original courts, but the Trump lawyer's appealed -- and many of these cases were heard by judges that Trump had appointed. If there was a mistake made by the original judge, then they would have been overturned on appeal. Instead, the only case I recall being overturned on appeal was one that the Trump lawyers won in a lower court; and it had to do with the distance observers were being kept from the tables, due to coronavirus protocols, and had nothing to do with any actual election irregularities.
 
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I'm old. ;) Though in this case, I Googled it, since I knew I'd heard them sing "of the World." I recall becoming a fan of Queen when they released their Killer Queen album.
Ah the old I'm old excuse.

Well I would solemnly affirm that "of the world" appears on the album version. If I'm wrong then I'm old will be my excuse.
 
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