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Difference between receiving a word of knowledge, a word of wisdom and a prophecy?

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How can you be trained and activated in the spiritual gifts? Are there biblical examples of this?
Yes, Jesus sending out the 70 is good example. Paul sent Timothy to the Corinthian church to guide them, including in the gifts. All you need is an experienced mentor or church to guide you. I've trained hundreds of believers. Just yesterday I had the honor of seeing how far many of them have come in a short time. They are truly being lights to their community and it is awesome.
 
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Lots of folks believe they have discernment.. Of course,, that's a good thing but discerning of spirits is much better and different. When we look at the manifestation of the spiritual gifts, all that info comes from the Holy Spirit.

Here's an example of discerning of a Godly spirit '"And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision." Gal 2:9

Then we have- "These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation." This truth was stated about Paul and Silas. What could be wrong with that? After she followed them many days saying this, Paul commanded, in the name of Jesus, for the evil spirit of divination to leave her and it did the same hour. (Acts 16). Paul was told what was actually going on and then told what to do about it.
 
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It doesn't say every manifestation, though. Many of Paul's other writings indicate different people have different gifts, and that all are of value, like as different parts of the body are in spite of having different functions. This isn't a big thing for me. I mean it is not credal. And I think it's almost certainly fine to believe all Christians may be given access by God to any of the gifts of the spirit, and in today's age. My doubt is only over the extent it's necessary to do so. I'm merely unconvinced of that.

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Every believer can operate in any of the gifts. They are as the Spirit wills, but He is not a respecter of persons. If I am with someone who God wants to speak a word of wisdom to, He doesn't look at me and say, "oops, I didn't give him that gift". God is looking for those who are willing, not those who are gifted, the gifts come from Him anyway. I have personally operated in every single gift of the Spirit many times, as have many folks in my congregation.
 
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Every believer can operate in any of the gifts. They are as the Spirit wills, but He is not a respecter of persons. If I am with someone who God wants to speak a word of wisdom to, He doesn't look at me and say, "oops, I didn't give him that gift". God is looking for those who are willing, not those who are gifted, the gifts come from Him anyway. I have personally operated in every single gift of the Spirit many times, as have many folks in my congregation.

Is the baptism of the Holy Spirit a prerequisite to get activated in the spiritual gifts?
 
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Is the baptism of the Holy Spirit a prerequisite to get activated in the spiritual gifts?
The 1 cor 12 gifts, yes. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is basically us giving Him permission to use us in that manner. He won't do it without our consent.
 
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The 1 cor 12 gifts, yes. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is basically us giving Him permission to use us in that manner. He won't do it without our consent.

So the next question I guess is: how can we receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
 
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So the next question I guess is: how can we receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
It's helpful to have someone guide you in prayer, but not required. It is a simple prayer from the heart, just like a salvation prayer. Basically you just ask God for it, give Him permission to use you in that way, and I like to add, "I receive it by faith"
 
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1 Corinthians 12 (KJV) says:

4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

From a practical point of view (based on your own understanding and personal experience), what is the difference between a word of wisdom, a word of knowledge and a prophecy? Are they synonymous/interchangeable expressions to some extent, or do they mean different things?
From my understanding a Word of Wisdom is an advice from the Lord. A Word of Knowledge is something personal only the person receiving the Word knows about. And a prophecy is when someone receives a message from the Lord and has authority/power to declare it.
 
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I'm intrigued. Is this something that has happened? Or is it a purely hypothetical question?
If you are in a pew sitting, order of service book, man at the front led church, then highly unlikely. They don't really have time for the Holy Spirit to mess with the programme.

In contrast, it should happen all the time if you fellowship with those who move in the gifts of the Spirit.

Over the last 40 years, I've lost track of how many times people have given such words to me, or I have given such words to others, all led by the Spirit.
 
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From a practical point of view (based on your own understanding and personal experience), what is the difference between a word of wisdom, a word of knowledge and a prophecy? Are they synonymous/interchangeable expressions to some extent, or do they mean different things?
Many times in spiritual life, and in scripture, all these manifestations can overlap, all occurring at the same time.

Word of wisdom.
Wisdom from the Lord is more about handling knowledge, than knowledge itself.
This can be seen with King Solomon when the two harlots came in arguing about whose baby was dead and whose was alive.
1Kings3v23And the king said, “The one says, ‘This is my son, who lives, and your son is the dead one’; and the other says, ‘No! But your son is the dead one, and my son is the living one.’ ” 24Then the king said, “Bring me a sword.” So they brought a sword before the king. 25And the king said, “Divide the living child in two, and give half to one, and half to the other.”

26Then the woman whose son was living spoke to the king, for she yearned with compassion for her son; and she said, “O my lord, give her the living child, and by no means kill him!”

But the other said, “Let him be neither mine nor yours, but divide him.”

27So the king answered and said, “Give the first woman the living child, and by no means kill him; she is his mother.”


As a prophet, Solomon could perhaps have answered with an accurate word of knowledge from the Lord, but that would not have stopped the jealous false mother from arguing, nor would it prove the truth to the watchers in the royal court. However, Solomon's command to cut the baby in two immediately made the truth absolutely manifest beyond all argument.

28And all Israel heard of the judgment which the king had rendered; and they feared the king, for they saw that the wisdom of God was in him to administer justice.
As the scripture says, that is the wisdom of God.

Jesus frequently operated in such wisdom, causing truth to be revealed from the mouths of those around him, especially from those intent on trapping him.

Word of knowledge.
This is simply a piece of information revealed by the Holy Spirit.

Around 30 years ago, my wife had her car stolen. A few days later, while collecting some plumbing gear for my business, the Lord spoke to me. It was the strongest impression that if I drove down a certain street, I would find my wife's car. I rushed to pay and load my gear, and then shot across town to this street. Sure enough, there was her car parked outside a shop. The police station was at the end of the street so I rushed back and got them out. They immediately arrested the car thieves, and we got the car back.
Over the years, I have received words of knowledge like this, or have been given such words by others countless times.

Word of prophecy.
In the body of Christ today, this is more of a structured word that reveals hidden information about the future for someone. It frequently includes hidden knowledge by way of validating the word. It can also reveal things that need dealing with today.
It can also include conditional promises, ie. "If you do xxxxx, then I, the Lord, will do YYYY"
 
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If you are in a pew sitting, order of service book, man at the front led church, then highly unlikely. They don't really have time for the Holy Spirit to mess with the programme.

In contrast, it should happen all the time if you fellowship with those who move in the gifts of the Spirit.

Over the last 40 years, I've lost track of how many times people have given such words to me, or I have given such words to others, all led by the Spirit.
Don't give up on it happening in church settings. It is possible and does happen, albeit not in nearly enough churches.
 
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Hi.

From what I understand, wisdom used in this context is in some sense the awareness of of the power of the cross.
This is not born out by scripture, or by experience in the body of Christ.
And Knowledge seems to be a knowing of theology in some sense.
Again, a word of knowledge has nothing to do with knowing theology.
 
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So the next question I guess is: how can we receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
The desire of your heavenly father to pour out his Spirit on you could not be described better than Jesus himself.

Lk11v9“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
 
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The desire of your heavenly father to pour out his Spirit on you could not be described better than Jesus himself.

Lk11v9“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

What is the proper way of asking? Should I pray and fast?
 
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If you are in a pew sitting, order of service book, man at the front led church, then highly unlikely. They don't really have time for the Holy Spirit to mess with the programme.

Lol! That's me told, then.
 
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Sometimes I wish they would dismiss those who need to leave at 12:07 Sun mornings, so we could continue as He wills.
You know this is exactly what we started doing by accident 6 months ago and it has been awesome!(except ours is an evening service) We do the regular service (we give platform for the Spirit to flow in that service, and He does... greatly), but then I close the service and dismiss whomever wants to leave, we fellowship for about 15 minutes, then just go back into worship and ministry... sometimes for hours. It has been some of the most amazing times I have ever experienced with the Lord AND there has been such tremendous growth in those who stick around for it.
 
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Once you are involved in a church where God directs the services, it is very difficult to attend elsewhere. (I believe we're to go where God wants).

In regards to prophecies- Known folks criticize those who are given several prophecies. But actually the more there are, the broader or more comprehensive the view.
 
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This is not born out by scripture, or by experience in the body of Christ.

Again, a word of knowledge has nothing to do with knowing theology.

Hi!

I find understanding things in the way in which we understand them naturally often comes with implicit biases. I have not given my definition(s) without looking into the topic as I demonstrated with clear signification where I was getting my info.
 
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