Third Temple Scam in modern Jerusalem?

[jgr]

The Antichrist, who comes in his own name, is who will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years. The Antichrist is not someone approved by God to be the King of Israel.

question: was the feast of tabernacles established under the new covenant?

Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Only God and His Son confirm the covenants of which They are the Authors.

Mere mortal man does not.

Antichrist does not.

 

[mkgal1]

a mediator is negotiating with one or more parties- that means the covenant is not finished

So the terms are going to change, in your belief? They're not decided and are reliant on the involvement of humans to finish the negotiations?

This would be compared to my last will and testament sitting in an attorney's office waiting for me to figure out - through negotiations with my children and spokespersons from charities - how my inheritance will be distributed.

 

[jgr]

Not confirmed, but "preached".

Luke 24:
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Yes, preached.

And confirmed with the "many" who believe. (Daniel 9:27)

Or do you believe that the New Covenant is only ever preached, but never confirmed in those who believe and accept it?

 

[mkgal1]

Not confirmed, but "preached".

That's all Moses was doing (teaching):

Deuteronomy 31
10Then Moses commanded them, “At the end of every seven years, at the appointed time in the year of remission of debt, during the Feast of Tabernacles,c 11when all Israel comes before the LORD your God at the place He will choose, you are to read this law in the hearing of all Israel.12Assemble the people—men, women, children, and the foreigners within your gates—so that they may listen and learn to fear the LORD your God and to follow carefully all the words of this law. 13Then their children who do not know the law will listen and learn to fear the LORD your God, as long as you live in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess.”

Hebrews 8:11
No longer will each one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest​

 

[mkgal1]

They had nothing to do with the new covenant nor did they mediate the new covenant.

Yes....Abraham, Moses, and King David do have something to do with the New Covenant. This may have to be a whole separate thread.

 

[BABerean2]

question: was the feast of tabernacles established under the new covenant?

Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

He is the tabernacle in the New Covenant.
In Colossians 2:16-17 Paul reveals the fact that the Old Testament feasts were only a shadow of Christ.


If you want to understand Zechariah 14, look at the change in lighting, and the living waters, in Revelation 21, and Revelation 22.


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[BABerean2]

But if pone is mediating a covenant- then that simply means the covenant is not finished but still ongoing because of negotiations to bring the parties to the agreement.

Even some of the titans of amill covenant theology like Allis, Cox, Hokema and Boettner et.al. all agree that if Jeremiah 31 covenant is to be read as written, then there is a future for the nation of Israel.

So IOW they teach- this is what God says, BUT is what it really means. they have to retranslate GodsWord to fit their agenda instead of what I and the myriads like me do- readjust our agenda to fit what God's word says!

Was Paul talking to the Church at Corinth in the passage below?
Do you think Paul was confused?

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?


The New Covenant was first for the nation of Israel on the Day of Pentecost, in the passage below.

ct 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"
Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."
Act 2:40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation."
Act 2:41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.


Do you expect Christ to die again in the future for the nation of Israel?

Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.


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[BABerean2]

1. when did god write His laws in teh inward parts of the house of Israel and Judah (that means everyone who is a Jew FYI)

The part you are adding to the text above stands in opposition to Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 9:27.
If you have to add something to scripture to make your doctrine work, you have revealed the doctrine for what it really is.

If you think every descendant of Jacob is going to be saved, you have not read the Bible.


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[Douggg]

Yes, preached.

And confirmed with the "many" who believe. (Daniel 9:27)

Or do you believe that the New Covenant is only ever preached, but never confirmed in those who believe and accept it?

God creates the covenants. Man can react by agreeing to those covenants - or by saying no, rejecting the covenant.

In Deuteronomy 31:9-13, the requirement stipulated by Moses is for the leaders of Israel to confirm on a 7 year cycle that the children of Israel agreed to the Mt. Sinai covenant that God created - when they said "we do" to the covenant.

There is no such requirement in the new covenant. Moses himself was not the Mt. Sinai covenant. Differently, Jesus Himself is the new covenant.

 

[mkgal1]

If you want to understand Zechariah 14, look at the change in lighting, and the living waters, in Revelation 21, and Revelation 22.

Just to add to this:

John 7
14About halfway through the feast [of Tabernacles], Jesus went up to the temple courts(c) and began to teach. 15The Jews were amazed and asked, “How did this man attain such learning without having studied?”

19Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps it. Why are you trying to kill Me?”

7On the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus stood up and called out in a loud voice, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. 38Whoever believes in Me, as the Scripture has said: ‘Streams of living water will flow from within him.’ ” 39He was speaking about the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. For the Spirit had not yet been given,e because Jesus had not yet been glorified.

John 8
12Once again, Jesus spoke to the people and said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will never walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.”​

 

[nolidad]

Yes....Abraham, Moses, and King David do have something to do with the New Covenant. This may have to be a whole separate thread.

I respectfully ask you to watch this video:

The final Restoration of Israel.

 

[nolidad]

So the terms are going to change, in your belief? They're not decided and are reliant on the involvement of humans to finish the negotiations?

This would be compared to my last will and testament sitting in an attorney's office waiting for me to figure out - through negotiations with my children and spokespersons from charities - how my inheritance will be distributed.

Not in the least!

Jesus is mediating with people to enter the covenant- not negotiating the terms of the covenant.

 

[mkgal1]

God creates the covenants. Man can react by agreeing to those covenants - or by saying no, rejecting the covenant.

But men did agree to His covenants. He chose faithful followers to mediate between humanity and Himself. Jesus is our final and perfect mediator (being God Himself):

Romans 11 BSB

 

[nolidad]

Was Paul talking to the Church at Corinth in the passage below?
Do you think Paul was confused?

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?


The New Covenant was first for the nation of Israel on the Day of Pentecost, in the passage below.

ct 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"
Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."
Act 2:40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation."
Act 2:41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.


Do you expect Christ to die again in the future for the nation of Israel?

Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.


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Before we continue, I ask you watch this video as I have watched yours:

 

[Douggg]

He is the tabernacle in the New Covenant.
In Colossians 2:16-17 Paul reveals the fact that the Old Testament feasts were only a shadow of Christ.


If you want to understand Zechariah 14, look at the change in lighting, and the living waters, in Revelation 21, and Revelation 22.

BAB2, you are evading. The feast of tabernacles in Zechariah 14 was created by the Mt. Sinai covenant.

The real issue though is that you, and others, are misinterpreting Daniel 9:26-27 regarding who is the prince who shall come, and what covenant he confirms for 7 years.

I can't get any of you to admit that it is Jesus Himself speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-22 having returned to earth and the remainder of Ezekiel 39. Because the 7 years following the destruction of Gog's army invalidates your eschatological view and interpretation of Daniel 9:26-27.

 

[Douggg]

But men did agree to His covenants. He chose faithful followers to mediate between humanity and Himself. Jesus is our final and perfect mediator (being God Himself):

Romans 11 BSB

Some men have, and some have not.

 

[nolidad]

But men did agree to His covenants. He chose faithful followers to mediate between humanity and Himself. Jesus is our final and perfect mediator (being God Himself):

Romans 11 BSB

So show me where these terms of the covenant have been fuflilled:

Jeremiah 31:31-34
King James Version

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

 

[nolidad]

The part you are adding to the text above stands in opposition to Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 9:27.
If you have to add something to scripture to make your doctrine work, you have revealed the doctrine for what it really is.

If you think every descendant of Jacob is going to be saved, you have not read the Bible.


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Well until you repent of you intentionally lying about my words especially after I just posted the opposite of what you just wrote here, there is no point in continuing.

I will not discuss with someone who intentionally lies about what I say!

And do not attempt to hide by you "if you think" Because I have directly and explicitly told you I do not think that nor teach that is the Bible! YOu have sinned against your brother.

 

[mkgal1]

So show me where these terms of the covenant have been fuflilled:

In Christ, Jeremiah's prophecy was fulfilled. You're certainly free to deny it - but I agree with the author of Hebrews.

Spurgeon on the fulfillment of Jeremiah's prophecy: The Spurgeon Library | God in the Covenant


What covenant is Paul referring to here? Is there more than one new covenant (in your belief)?

2 Corinthians 3:6
...who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. ​

 

[mkgal1]

Well until you repent of you intentionally lying about my words especially after I just posted the opposite of what you just wrote here, there is no point in continuing.

Please point out a lie there.