Looking Good For Trump

[Triumvirate]

Could I humbly suggest that all the people that don't want the votes all counted maybe go somewhere like I don't know, north Korea?

Also really funny how we've got a crowd of angry (mainly white, of course) Trump fans showing up in Detroit acting like they're entitled to disrupt the count.

But I was told the left was going to be sure to cause trouble and not accept the result. Life comes at you fast

 

[iluvatar5150]

Nope. I see a straight line vertigo and so will everyone in the future as well. Even if one argued those votes came in from Biden favoured areas wouldn't Trump have got 20-30 % of the vote....

Eyeballing that graph, it looks like Trump got a little less than a quarter of it.

which would make it not an absolute straight line.

Wait... what? You don't even know how to read this graph.

The graph is plotting each candidate's vote totals independently and the votes are reported in batches. It's virtually impossible for them to not look like stairs - every other increment on that graph, for both candidates, does the same thing, just on a smaller scale.

So again the question....is this fraud?

No, it's not. You just don't know what you're looking at.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Nope. I see a straight line vertigo and so will everyone in the future as well. Even if one argued those votes came in from Biden favoured areas wouldn't Trump have got 20-30 % of the vote

This is visible on the Wisconsin graph. The Biden line ends up higher than the Trump line was before the votes were added, and the Trump line ends up neck-and-neck - higher than it was before the votes were added.

....which would make it not an absolute straight line.

No, that's not how a results/time graph works. If you zoom in on the graphs, you'll see that every increase is a vertical line. When the steps are small enough, it can look like a curve when zoomed out, but the steps will always be straight lines because they represent a quantity of votes added at that precise time

So again the question....is this fraud?

It could be. But it could also be an artifact of the reporting process. Without knowing the exact mechanics of reporting, it's impossible to say either way. When in doubt though, I tend to err on the side of not declaring that someone has committed a felony or tried to rig an election.

 

[variant]

Could I humbly suggest that all the people that don't want the votes all counted maybe go somewhere like I don't know, north Korea?

Also really funny how we've got a crowd of angry (mainly white, of course) Trump fans showing up in Detroit acting like they're entitled to disrupt the count.

But I was told the left was going to be sure to cause trouble and not accept the result. Life comes at you fast

There's no way to form a legitimate government by not counting legitimate votes.

I would rather the government be legitimate and fair than win, and I don't think our president shares my view on that.

 

[Bobber]

This is visible on the Wisconsin graph. The Biden line ends up higher than the Trump line was before the votes were added, and the Trump line ends up neck-and-neck - higher than it was before the votes were added.

No, that's not how a results/time graph works. If you zoom in on the graphs, you'll see that every increase is a vertical line. When the steps are small enough, it can look like a curve when zoomed out, but the steps will always be straight lines because they represent a quantity of votes added at that precise time


It could be. But it could also be an artifact of the reporting process. Without knowing the exact mechanics of reporting, it's impossible to say either way. When in doubt though, I tend to err on the side of not declaring that someone has committed a felony or tried to rig an election.

OK well maybe I don't understand how all these things work but for the professionals who do on Trump's legal team if they don't bring this up then maybe they'd agree with you too. We'll see.

 

[JosephZ]

And the President of the United States called the election last night with Trump as the winner, doesn’t make it so until the moderately obese female performs a tune.

Fox just called MI too. The remaining votes just aren't there for Trump to overcome the deficit in that state.

 

[Triumvirate]

OK well maybe I don't understand how all these things work but for the professionals who do on Trump's legal team if they don't bring this up then maybe they'd agree with you too. We'll see.

Of course, it's entirely possible some other professionals on Trump's team may be counting on making people like you think there is an anomaly in the count when there is fact not.

 

[whatbogsends]

Not really. I will have to watch Bidens senility and gaffes everyday on Fox News.

It's much better to have a mix of tweet gaffes and in person gaffes daily, amirite?

If i had a hamberder for every time the patriots took over the airports during the revolutionary war, i'd be able to identify the oranges of the Mueller investigation. Covfefe!

 

[SummerMadness]

I looked at the remaining votes, things are not looking good for Trump.

In the uncalled states, Biden only needs 39.7% of absentee ballots in AZ. It also looks like he has NV, so he'll win outright there. For NC, Biden needs 60.9% of the absentee/mail-in, GA is 63.3% and PA is 64.6%. I think Trump can hold on NC, I think GA is a toss-up, but PA will likely have Biden prevailing.

Attacking early voting likely hurt Trump.

 

[whatbogsends]

As for me I can't accept that. It's a straight vertigo. Sorry but it seems beyond belief.

You do know that vertigo is a feeling of disorientation, right? I'm pretty sure the word you've been looking for is vertical.

I do agree, though, a vertical line on the reporting chart should be explained. It doesn't necessarily mean fraud, but it should be looked at.

 

[Goonie]

I looked at the remaining votes, things are not looking good for Trump.

In the uncalled states, Biden only needs 39.7% of absentee ballots in AZ. It also looks like he has NV, so he'll win outright there. For NC, Biden needs 60.9% of the absentee/mail-in, GA is 63.3% and PA is 64.6%. I think Trump can hold on NC, I think GA is a toss-up, but PA will likely have Biden prevailing.

Attacking early voting likely hurt Trump.

The Trump campaign are going to court to delay the counting of votes in both Pennsylvania and Michigan, aiming to delay the count past deadline so as to have his handpicked supreme court rule that they cannot be counted as the deadline has passed. The Arizona governor is declaring that Trump has won Arizona by over 30000 votes.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I do agree, though, a vertical line on the reporting chart should be explained.

Specifically an unusually long vertical line, since they're all vertical lines at some level.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I looked at the remaining votes, things are not looking good for Trump.

In the uncalled states, Biden only needs 39.7% of absentee ballots in AZ. It also looks like he has NV, so he'll win outright there. For NC, Biden needs 60.9% of the absentee/mail-in, GA is 63.3% and PA is 64.6%. I think Trump can hold on NC, I think GA is a toss-up, but PA will likely have Biden prevailing.

Attacking early voting likely hurt Trump.

Now that he's got MI and WI, he doesn't need PA, GA, or NC. NV and AZ are enough.

That said, the margin in WI is pretty thin, so I wouldn't bank on that withstanding a recount.

 

[Gifts From Above]

Fox called Michigan for Biden.

Biden at 264.

Not looking good for Trump.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

You do know that vertigo is a feeling of disorientation, right? I'm pretty sure the word you've been looking for is vertical.

I do agree, though, a vertical line on the reporting chart should be explained. It doesn't necessarily mean fraud, but it should be looked at.

I did explain it on Wisconsin’s. That was the moment when Milwaukee reported their absentee results and Biden got almost 8.5% of his total votes in the state on that announcement. Biden beat Trump something like 143k-26k on the absentee ballots in Milwaukee. That’s not far off 2016 total vote when Clinton beat Trump by 60 points.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Now that he's got MI and WI, he doesn't need PA, GA, or NC. NV and AZ are enough.

That said, the margin in WI is pretty thin, so I wouldn't bank on that withstanding a recount.

Scott Walker pointed out that on the last two statewide recounts in Wisconsin, the total number change was like 400 votes combined. Trump needs to make up roughly 21,000.

 

[Goonie]

Now that he's got MI and WI, he doesn't need PA, GA, or NC. NV and AZ are enough.

That said, the margin in WI is pretty thin, so I wouldn't bank on that withstanding a recount.

He's counting on delaying the Pennsylvania count past deadline,band his campaign and the Arizona governor being right that he has won Arizona, with a 30000 majority.

 

[durangodawood]

Specifically an unusually long vertical line, since they're all vertical lines at some level.

Yes the min quanta is a discrete vert jump of 1 vote, although its highly unlikely any precinct or group of precincts or batch of mail-in ballots will report just one vote for any candidate except maybe Kanye West.

Any large batch of votes reported in one instance will look like a noticeable vert for both candidates. If a batch is mainly urban, blue will jump much higher than red.

 

[JosephZ]

Fox called Michigan for Biden.

Biden at 264.

Not looking good for Trump.

Yeah, the writing has been on the wall for some time now. Pennsylvania is trending towards Biden and will likely go to him. The only other states remaining that Trump has any kind of chance to win are NC and GA. Neither of those two states are guaranteed for Trump either.

This one is over. Biden will be the next president of the United States.

 

[Gifts From Above]

Yeah, the writing has been on the wall for some time now. Pennsylvania is trending towards Biden and will likely go to him. The only other states remaining that Trump has any kind of chance to win are NC and GA. Neither of those two states are guaranteed for Trump either.

This one is over. Biden will be the next president of the United States.

Yeah I’m not so sure. I think Pennsylvania will go for Trump. Arizona and Nevada are still in play so this isn’t quite over yet.