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Do Aliens Exist?

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Thanks for the explanation, but it just doesn't make any logical sense to suggest that a theory has been thoroughly tested.
The "big bang theory", the "theory of evolution" and many other scientific theories have zero evidence to support them, so they are nothing more than fantasy.
I'm not one of those who swallows something just because it's popular, I need hard evidence and there is no hard evidence in mainstream science for most of their claims.

The "Big Bang Theory" was originally proposed by Georges Lemaitre, an astronomer who also happened to be a Catholic priest. At first the mainstream scientific establishment had a knee-jerk reaction to it, rejecting it because it sounded too much like creation as described in Genesis, when God said "Let there be light". In fact, the term "Big Bang" was originally an insult coined by astronomer Fred Hoyle in an attempt to mock the idea. But after the studied the evidence, such as the cosmic microwave background radiation and redshift of galaxies, the scientific established realized that Lemaitre was right - this actually made sense and was the best explanation they had.

I like to explain this to people who think that scientists categorically reject any evidence that might point to a creator, because it's clearly not true.
 
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If they can't find evidence for two million Jews in the wilderness a few thousand miles away, how are they expected to find n-billion aliens on a planet light years away?
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Thanks for the explanation, but it just doesn't make any logical sense to suggest that a theory has been thoroughly tested.
The "big bang theory", the "theory of evolution" and many other scientific theories have zero evidence to support them, so they are nothing more than fantasy.
I'm not one of those who swallows something just because it's popular, I need hard evidence and there is no hard evidence in mainstream science for most of their claims.
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Thanks for the explanation, but it just doesn't make any logical sense to suggest that a theory has been thoroughly tested.
The "big bang theory", the "theory of evolution" and many other scientific theories have zero evidence to support them, so they are nothing more than fantasy.
I'm not one of those who swallows something just because it's popular, I need hard evidence and there is no hard evidence in mainstream science for most of their claims.
"big bang theory"

Cosmic background radiation.
Recession of galaxies and clusters.
Acceleration of space.
Mathematical consequences of demonstrated physics.

"theory of evolution"

Fossil Evidence.
Nested hierarchy of modern life in form and genetics.
Geological evidence.
Observed evolution of modern animals.
 
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In fact, the term "Big Bang" was originally an insult coined by astronomer Fred Hoyle in an attempt to mock the idea.
Correction. While Hoyle was strongly opposed to Big Bang Theory his use of the term was not perjorative. He used it in a discussion broadcast by the BBC in the late 1940s as a pictorial way of conveying a simplified version of the concept to the audience. That this is how we name the theory today shows how effective his choice was.
 
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Atheism doesn't imply morals... but neither does engineering, bird watching or eating breakfast.

It just goes to show that atheists have no moral code. They may be the scum of the Earth :p. I hope you're not proud of being one. Engineers have a code. Bird watchers have ethical guidelines. People have health and good eating guidelines.

There is limited evidence. In that it is inference from the existence and behavior of life on the Earth and the scale and make up of the universe.

Multiverses are an inference from philosophical and mathematical analysis and physics.

I don't think you actually understand what pseudoscience means aside from throwing it back after seeing it applied to your personal preferred beliefs.

What limited evidence? Are you lying as a non-ethical? The rest make no sense.

There is absolutely no evidence for multiverses, but atheists and their scientists believe there are because of the fine tuning facts they discovered. Atheist scientists are such fake scientists to the point of erasing their own findings from the internet because it greatly helped the other side or showed they were right.

Now, you're trying to put pseudoscience on me when today it is all your side when it comes to aliens and abiogenesis. Just admit it's part of the atheist faith.

What if the Mars astronauts die in the 2030s due to the solar wind? I hope they won't, but just asking you because it is a huge concern of NASA.

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There's life all over the Earth, and there are conditions outside the Earth that are similar to the conditions that life has survived. That's just one reason that studying the universe is interesting.

Now, you're sounding like you do not understand real science. The fine tuning parameters are very real. They were discovered by Stephen Hawking and his atheist scientists.

Any anyway, how do you even get objective morals? Every variety of Christian seems to take a subtly different lesson from the Bible.

Objective morals are in the Ten Commandments. They are important because that is the beginning of the Bible.

I understand you do not believe in Satan as he likes to hide, but he has no morals and wants you to believe what atheists believe. You know you're in trouble if you think you're "like God."
 
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Actually, if one were to categorically reject any and all conspiracy theories regardless of, that could qualify as believing that there is a conspiracy to suggest that conspiracies exist. Because certainly there are such things as conspiracies, even though most of them are eventually exposed.

Anyway, I don't see how finding microbes on Mars would do anything to discredit Christianity. Just because something wasn't explicitly mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean it's not necessarily true. Same with the people who claim that the earth has to be flat for the Bible to be true.

No, the only way to destroy Christianity is to demonstrate Jesus didn't die on the cross and resurrected.

There won't be any microbes on the surface of Mars because of the harsh solar winds with no magnetic field. That's why the atheist scientists hope to find them underground where there's water. Of course, they won't be there because God didn't create life on other planets.
 
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Just that the conditions for life - planet, liquid water, etc - seem to be fairly common.

Water is the enemy of amino acids as it dissolves them before they can become proteins assuming you have the right ones.
 
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No, the only way to destroy Christianity is to demonstrate Jesus didn't die on the cross and resurrected.

There won't be any microbes on the surface of Mars because of the harsh solar winds with no magnetic field. That's why the atheist scientists hope to find them underground where there's water. Of course, they won't be there because God didn't create life on other planets.

And if it turns out that you're wrong about that, would that cause you to lose your faith? Seems like a very insignificant hill to die on.
 
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It just goes to show that atheists have no moral code. They may be the scum of the Earth :p. I hope you're not proud of being one. Engineers have a code. Bird watchers have ethical guidelines. People have health and good eating guidelines.

Engineers, bird waters and breakfast eaters may have moral codes... but they aren't inherent to those activities.

Atheists may have moral codes too, but it isn't derived from atheism. Personally I strongly believe in not bearing false witness.


What limited evidence? Are you lying as a non-ethical? The rest make no sense.

The evidence is that on the Earth very simple life appeared then developed into more complicated life.

The evidence is that life is made up of exactly the same chemical reactions as non living organic chemistry.

The evidence is that organic chemistry exists all over the universe.

So, without any evidence for a necessary external force for the transition from non living chemistry to very simple life forms it is a reasonable inference that it can happen naturally.

There is absolutely no evidence for multiverses, but atheists and their scientists believe there are because of the fine tuning facts they discovered. Atheist scientists are such fake scientists to the point of erasing their own findings from the internet because it greatly helped the other side or showed they were right.
You reasoning is false.

Multiverses are a merely a mathematical inference from some strange interpretations of advanced physics. Nothing to do with atheism.

And the lie about scientists removing it from the internet is a shameful case of bearing false witness.

Now, you're trying to put pseudoscience on me when today it is all your side when it comes to aliens and abiogenesis. Just admit it's part of the atheist faith.
Lie.

Once again, it has nothing to do with atheism. It's just inferences from the physical world.

What if the Mars astronauts die in the 2030s due to the solar wind? I hope they won't, but just asking you because it is a huge concern of NASA.

I don't see the point? Space is dangerous and Mars is dangerous... personally I and I presume NASA think it's worth the risk to see and explore Mars.


Now, you're sounding like you do not understand real science. The fine tuning parameters are very real. They were discovered by Stephen Hawking and his atheist scientists.

Then present them. Your misinterpretations and false assertions aren't evidence.

Objective morals are in the Ten Commandments. They are important because that is the beginning of the Bible.

Not all Christians interpret the Ten Commandments the same way... so, no, that isn't objective.

For example lying about scientists deliberately covering up their research to conceal the evidence for creation would often been seen as a breach of the ninth commandment... but not all Christians think that is wrong.


I understand you do not believe in Satan as he likes to hide, but he has no morals and wants you to believe what atheists believe. You know you're in trouble if you think you're "like God."

Atheists don't think they are like God... they don't believe God exists. For the most part they think the Bible is a book written by humans. It really isn't some kind of big deal they rebel against.
 
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Water is the enemy of amino acids as it dissolves them before they can become proteins assuming you have the right ones.

Good thing we aren't like 70% water or something.

Oh, wait...
 
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I can see it for what it is - fantasy.

Socrates said:
I seem, then, in just this little thing to be wiser than this man at any rate, that what I do not know I do not think I know either.

Plato relates that Socrates … does not imagine that he knows what he does not know.
 
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And if it turns out that you're wrong about that, would that cause you to lose your faith? Seems like a very insignificant hill to die on.

Why would I be wrong about it? I have creation science backing me. It's not about faith, but science.
 
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