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Hunter Biden Expose is "Fake News"

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What spin? Your ascertain was being Christlike or representing Christ. In what way? The 'Christian right' as you call it, is politically against those things I mentioned. So to what are you saying is not Christlike?
I think the objection is that of treating United States’ citizens who will not be “going to heaven” as second-class citizens was the complaint.
 
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What spin? Your ascertain was being Christlike or representing Christ. In what way? The 'Christian right' as you call it, is politically against those things I mentioned. So to what are you saying is not Christlike?

So do homosexuals not have the right to live lives as they choose, including the right to worship as they believe (which would include marriage)?

You talk about abortion yet, as has been pointed out by multiple people here, it would seem that Republicans could care less about what happens after they are born. The have had no issue, since you brought up the family, with the Trump administration separating families that try to immigrate to the United States. It also ignores that most Democrats appear to believe (as do most Americans) that abortion should be legal, but with every effort to make it as rare as possible.

But the other issues are serious right wing spin -- about like claiming that Republicans are the party that supports "white pride" (particularly if you look at their voter suppression strategies that were made public) and only care for rich people.
 
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I think the objection is that of treating United States’ citizens who will not be “going to heaven” as second-class citizens was the complaint.

I do not view any individual as a second rate person... even if I do not agree with or condone their ideals. They are still a human being.
 
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So do homosexuals not have the right to live lives as they choose, including the right to worship as they believe (which would include marriage)?

Absolutely. As is afforded to them by the constitution. They have the constitutional right to live their life.

As do I, and I do not want that lifestyle represented by my government nor taught in schools. See ya at the polls.

You talk about abortion yet, as has been pointed out by multiple people here, it would seem that Republicans could care less about what happens after they are born.

Not following... what does allowing an individual to live their own life have to do with being Christlike?

It also ignores that most Democrats appear to believe (as do most Americans) that abortion should be legal, but with every effort to make it as rare as possible.

I honestly believe it is a sin of this nation to be repented from. It is abhorrent. And I cannot in any stretch of the imagination see Chris Jesus performing an abortion or being in favor of such actions.

But the other issues are serious right wing spin -- about like claiming that Republicans are the party that supports "white pride"

This is a lie. Or it is the outright refusal to acknowledge the many... many times this has been refuted, and even denounced.

Talking about racism... you supporting Biden?
 
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Absolutely. As is afforded to them by the constitution. They have the constitutional right to live their life.

As do I, and I do not want that lifestyle represented by my government nor taught in schools. See ya at the polls.



Not following... what does allowing an individual to live their own life have to do with being Christlike?



I honestly believe it is a sin of this nation to be repented from. It is abhorrent. And I cannot in any stretch of the imagination see Chris Jesus performing an abortion or being in favor of such actions.



This is a lie. Or it is the outright refusal to acknowledge the many... many times this has been refuted, and even denounced.

Talking about racism... you supporting Biden?

I think this response shows why you are so caught up in your own thoughts, straw-manning what others believe, that it shows why I felt trying to discuss this with you was not worth the time and effort. Particularly the "This is a lie part" where I was using the example of how Democrats straw man the "Rights" position on an issue compared to how you did the same with the Democrats position.

It doesn't help that I'm not a Democrat and don't wish to try and explain their actual positions; but I know them well enough to know that they'd state your spin "is a lie."
 
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where I was using the example of how Democrats straw man the "Rights" position on an issue compared to how you did the same with the Democrats position.

I honestly missed that. I am so used to being attacked in that manner I misread your post. I apologize for that. Sorry.

I know them well enough to know that they'd state your spin "is a lie."

I'm shooting straight. So much so, I am not even aware of what you think I am spinning. I do not even see what I need to rectify.
 
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So what are we talking here? It is Christ like to abort babies? Homosexuality? Destroy the nuclear family? Race baiting? Rioting in the streets terrorizing people?

I'm not understanding where you are at with this....
We're not talking about abortion or homosexuality or whether they are right or wrong according to who. We're talking about using the power of the government to persecute non-Christians who commit what are deemed to be Christian sins just because they are Christian sins.. The Christian Right haven't got the votes to do it so they want Trump to give them the courts to do it.
 
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We're not talking about abortion or homosexuality or whether they are right or wrong according to who. We're talking about using the power of the government to persecute non-Christians who commit what are deemed to be Christian sins. The Christian Right haven't got the votes to do it so they want Trump to give them the courts to do it.

I do not need Trump nor votes. I am at the point of recognizing this is a spiritual battle and conduct myself likewise. I am asking several times a day that God allows us to repent of these sins and removes those who impede that intent. I claim the promise that whosoever is called by his name, and humbles himself, prays seeking God's face and repents of his wicked ways his land will be healed. I claim the promise that whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, and whoever curses them will be cursed. I even ask it to be brought to remembrance that we have a president that honors Israel.

Just because people have the constitutional right does not mean I have let go of the spiritual battle for this country.
 
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I do not need Trump nor votes. I am at the point of recognizing this is a spiritual battle and conduct myself likewise. I am asking several times a day that God allows us to repent of these sins and removes those who impede that intent. I claim the promise that whosoever is called by his name, and humbles himself, prays seeking God's face and repents of his wicked ways his land will be healed. I claim the promise that whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, and whoever curses them will be cursed. I even ask it to be brought to remembrance that we have a president that honors Israel.

Just because people have the constitutional right does not mean I have let go of the spiritual battle for this country.
Just so you don't bring in the government to help you do it by force. I'm afraid that a number of your conservative colleagues want to do just that.
 
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Just so you don't bring in the government to help you do it by force. I'm afraid that a number of your conservative colleagues want to do just that.

My intent is to remove such things from our government and my country. I am not asking for your permission, or seeking a way you find more palatable. I do not want these things in my country, spiritually speaking. God's will be done concerning that.

Constitutionally speaking... secularly... you have every right to exist. Be in the world but not of it?
 
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My intent is to remove such things from our government and my country. I am not asking for your permission, or seeking a way you find more palatable. I do not want these things in my country, spiritually speaking. God's will be done concerning that.
Go for it if that's what you want, but remember that it's not just your country and that your views on the matter are not necessarily more Christian, more American or more patriotic than anyone else's.
 
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Go for it if that's what you want, but remember that it's not just your country and that your views on the matter are not necessarily more Christian, more American or more patriotic than anyone else's.

God would be just in sending me to hell. His judgment would be sound. If God wills, may He write my name in the Lamb's book of life. If not, may he give me the ability to serve him with praise in the gates of hell. God's will be upon me.

I am no ones better....
 
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God would be just in sending me to hell. His judgment would be sound. If God wills, may He write my name in the Lamb's book of life. If not, may he give me the ability to serve him with praise in the gates of hell. God's will be upon me.

I am no ones better....
But we are talking about those who think they are.
 
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But we are talking about those who think they are.

Nope... I keep getting equated to things that are so beyond my character. But that is okay. No harm no foul. This line of conversation began with claiming the right was not representing Christ well. I did not understand that. And the reason many on this forum do not get me, is because I am not just discussing politics even when I am discussing politics.

This 'thing' here, with Joe Biden, is a spiritual battle. One I intend to win. I understand many people do not get that, but that is how this is. People like myself believe we are fighting for the soul of this nation, and want God back in control of this country. I do not view America as a drunken harlot lost in her transgressions. As some nations are described in the bible. I view America as the repentant child that lost their way until they called out to God. And that is what I intend, to call this nation to repentance by intercession. I am not trying to be better than you. I just absolutely with all my being cannot support some of those things you do.
 
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How would a few people at Facebook determine whether it was true before the factcheckers checked it?

If you don't think you can look into various viewpoints and find some notion of what is true, then why can they?
They, Facebook, do employ fact-checkers. Why would you think that they wouldn’t?
 
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They, Facebook, do employ fact-checkers. Why would you think that they wouldn’t?


Did you read the earlier quote that I posted which indicated they did not fact check it before limiting it?

And why would you trust fact checkers to determine what you see instead of weighing it yourself?
 
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