There is only One Gospel

[Jesus is YHWH]

@St_Worm2 I noticed Swindoll in your signature. One of the best teachers/preachers in Christendom. I have several of his books. A great man of God and we are blessed to have him in the body of Christ.

 

[Basil the Great]

...There is only One Church

If there is only one Church and that is either the EOC or the CC, and one must be a visible member of the One Church in this lifetime, in order to be saved, then many Christians are in deep trouble. However, if there is an invisible Church, encompassing all baptized Christians or if there is only One Church, but one need not be a member of the visible One Church in order to be saved, then there is hope for many Christians.

 

[Mark Quayle]

in John 3:16, what is John telling us what to believe about Jesus?

He isn't telling us to believe. He is saying that those who believe have everlasting life. Sorry, but if you want a precise answer, ask a precise question.

If what you meant to ask is what do we believers believe when we believe in Jesus Christ, we believe everything the Scriptures (and he) say about him. But no doubt you meant to go somewhere else with that.

 

[Mark Quayle]

It is not necessarily so that all sin is the same. The Bible says that God hates some sin and truly abhors another. All sin is the same in that it separates us from God and that the sin is really against God. However the results of some sin is much worse than others and therefor it is a worse sin only in that narrow sense. The result for the individual is the same. In the verses you quote Christ is only clarifying that sin is in the heart and not the physical act. In the heart and in the mind the rebellion against God is completed, the physical act is after the fact.

Correct to a point. ANY sin is a transgressing of the WHOLE law. But even that, as your post agrees, does not mean that any one sin is as bad as another. It's not only in the results of sin, but how the sin affects the rest of creation, and in particular the Bride of Christ. There are no hidden sins, but open sin in which the sinner and perhaps others are proud of it, needs dealt with immediately for the sake of the body of Christ. Some sins are directly called abominations and some are not. Not only that, but a sin by the same name for one person is not the same as by another person --God looks on the heart to judge the deeds.

 

[DamianWarS]

There is no difference since God is Spirit.
But I am referring to the literal event
and how the Spirit of Christ literally
converts people, all day, every day,
all throughout history. What we know
is exactly how conversions happen.
There is no mystery.

You mean the literal event of travelling on a road to a city called Damascus? Or perhaps this is a metaphor? Again I'm speaking of the actually literal event not a spiritual experience we identify as a turning point in our lives similar to Paul. But you know what I mean so let's keep to the literal event as described in Acts and my point that Paul met and spoke with Jesus.

 

[Guojing]

He isn't telling us to believe. He is saying that those who believe have everlasting life. Sorry, but if you want a precise answer, ask a precise question.

If what you meant to ask is what do we believers believe when we believe in Jesus Christ, we believe everything the Scriptures (and he) say about him. But no doubt you meant to go somewhere else with that.

Yes, I am going somewhere, I am just curious to understand how you understand John 3:16.

The answer is found in John 20:31, which is the content of the gospel of the kingdom.

But for us today, the gospel that saves us is found in 1 Cor 15:1-4, we must believe that Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the 3rd day.

 

[SkyWriting]

You mean the literal event of travelling on a road to a city called Damascus? Or perhaps this is a metaphor? Again I'm speaking of the actually literal event not a spiritual experience we identify as a turning point in our lives similar to Paul. But you know what I mean so let's keep to the literal event as described in Acts and my point that Paul met and spoke with Jesus.

I am referring to the literal event
and how the Spirit of Christ literally
converts people, all day, every day,
all throughout history.
You hear Jesus knocking, you open
the door and let Him in. Is this not
getting through yet? The process is
documented in different ways.

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.

Revelation 3:8
“‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.

Matthew 7:7
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture

 

[DamianWarS]

I am referring to the literal event
and how the Spirit of Christ literally
converts people, all day, every day,
all throughout history.
You hear Jesus knocking, you open
the door and let Him in. Is this not
getting through yet? The process is
documented in different ways.

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.

Revelation 3:8
“‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.

Matthew 7:7
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture

I understand your use but it is in reference to my point about Paul meeting Jesus so let's get back to a conversation that's about Paul.

Paul met Jesus.

You can read about the event in Acts 9.

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

I understand your use but it is in reference to my point about Paul meeting Jesus so let's get back to a conversation that's about Paul.

Paul met Jesus.

You can read about the event in Acts 9.

Indeed he did !

 

[Dkh587]

There is 1 gospel, but it has many different aspects of it(with the major key being Messiah dying and being resurrected)

the gospel is the kingdom of God reigning on earth.

the Israelites & Abraham had the gospel preached to them, but they weren’t told about the Messiah being raised from the dead.

 

[K2K]

There is One God
There is One Lord
There is One Faith
There is One Baptism
There is One Jesus
There is only One way to God
There is One Savior

And there is One Gospel

Galatians 1:6
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So since there is only One God, One Savior, One way to God through Christ, One faith, One baptism and One Gospel- there is only one way to be saved.

How do you know you have the right One ?

hope this helps !!!

How do you know you have the right One ?

Gal 3:2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

Isn't it interesting, that with all those comments and rhetorical questions, that Paul only really want to know 'one' thing from them?

The one and only thing Paul wanted to find out was if they got the Spirit by works of the Law or by hearing with faith?

Yeah - I'd say there is only one way to be saved. Start seeking the Lord Jesus Christ and listening to what He personally has to say to you, and He will send His Spirit to talk to you - if can believe that.

 

[George Antonios]

There is One God
There is One Lord
There is One Faith
There is One Baptism
There is One Jesus
There is only One way to God
There is One Savior

And there is One Gospel

Galatians 1:6
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So since there is only One God, One Savior, One way to God through Christ, One faith, One baptism and One Gospel- there is only one way to be saved.

How do you know you have the right One ?

hope this helps !!!

It's not that simple. Ephesians 4:5 says one baptism but Hebrews 6:2 says baptisms in the plural.

We need to understand the dispensational context of each verse.

1. There is only one true gospel for the church age: the gospel of the grace of God.
2. There was only one true gospel during the gospels: the gospel of the kingdom.
3. There will only be one true gospel during the tribulation: the everlasting gospel (preached by an angel, by the way, see Revelation 14:6).

So there are 3 gospels, and each is the only true gospel during its own dispensation/age.

Without that division, the Bible cannot be reconciled.

That's why Paul also commanded Timothy to "divide" the word of truth (2Ti.2:15).

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

It's not that simple. Ephesians 4:5 says one baptism but Hebrews 6:2 says baptisms in the plural.

We need to understand the dispensational context of each verse.

1. There is only one true gospel for the church age: the gospel of the grace of God.
2. There was only one true gospel during the gospels: the gospel of the kingdom.
3. There will only be one true gospel during the tribulation: the everlasting gospel (preached by an angel, by the way, see Revelation 14:6).

So there are 3 gospels, and each is the only true gospel during its own dispensation/age.

Without that division, the Bible cannot be reconciled.

That's why Paul also commanded Timothy to "divide" the word of truth (2Ti.2:15).

The One Baptism is this :

1 Corinthians 12:13
For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body--whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Ephesians 4:5-6
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The same author the Apostle Paul, same meaning. One Baptism- the One which Saves, the Baptism of the Spirit at Salvation. The indwelling Spirit of Christ. Christ in you the Hope of glory.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ViaCrucis]

Do you know what was the good news Abraham received from God in genesis 15?

Jesus Christ, who is the Seed of Abraham. Jesus Christ and what He did is the good news to which Abraham had faith, and as St. Paul tells us, it was reckoned to him as righteousness Abraham was saved by God's grace, justified through faith in Christ. Which is why our Lord Himself tells us that Abraham looked forward to His day.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

It's not that simple. Ephesians 4:5 says one baptism but Hebrews 6:2 says baptisms in the plural.

We'd probably have a better understanding of the text if we understood this here as "washings". Much ink has been spilled on what the author means here, but most commentaries I can find tend toward the understanding that βαπτισμῶν διδαχῆς (baptismon didaches) concerns, as for elementary principles of the Christian religion, the proper distinction between the many Jewish ritual ablations/washings (which the New Testament refers to as "baptisms") and that of Christian Baptism.

The one Baptism of Ephesians refers to Christian Baptism, rather than the various ritual ablations of Judaism, or of the baptism of St. John the Baptist. This would be a necessary elementary doctrine of Christianity for new converts (especially in the context of Jewish converts to Christianity in the 1st century).

-CryptoLutheran

 

[George Antonios]

The One Baptism is this :

1 Corinthians 12:13
For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body--whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Ephesians 4:5-6
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The same author the Apostle Paul, same meaning. One Baptism- the One which Saves, the Baptism of the Spirit at Salvation. The indwelling Spirit of Christ. Christ in you the Hope of glory.

hope this helps !!!

You're right and I agree with that. I didn't deny that. I don't see what that specification has to do with what I said.

 

[George Antonios]

We'd probably have a better understanding of the text if we understood this here as "washings". Much ink has been spilled on what the author means here, but most commentaries I can find tend toward the understanding that βαπτισμῶν διδαχῆς (baptismon didaches) concerns, as for elementary principles of the Christian religion, the proper distinction between the many Jewish ritual ablations/washings (which the New Testament refers to as "baptisms") and that of Christian Baptism.

The one Baptism of Ephesians refers to Christian Baptism, rather than the various ritual ablations of Judaism, or of the baptism of St. John the Baptist. This would be a necessary elementary doctrine of Christianity for new converts (especially in the context of Jewish converts to Christianity in the 1st century).

-CryptoLutheran

The word of God said baptisms. So I stick with that. I've been around the Greek game and "scholars" for far too long to take it too seriously.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The One Baptism is this :

1 Corinthians 12:13
For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body--whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Ephesians 4:5-6
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The same author the Apostle Paul, same meaning. One Baptism- the One which Saves, the Baptism of the Spirit at Salvation. The indwelling Spirit of Christ. Christ in you the Hope of glory.

hope this helps !!!

There does not seem to be any reason to think that the Apostle means anything other than ordinary Christian Baptism.

It can be tempting to think that 1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to "Baptism with the Holy Spirit" as referenced by St. John the Baptist and by Jesus in the first chapter of the Acts; but the meaning here probably isn't substantively different than where the Apostle speaks elsewhere of being baptized into Christ. Thus we should see herein echoes of Christ's own word to us that when we baptize we baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. For when we baptize in the three-fold name of the Trinity, one is not baptized into the Father only, or into Christ only, or into the Holy Spirit only; but is baptized into the Father, and into Christ, and into the Holy Spirit.

Where in places such as Romans 6:3-4 the Apostle wishes to emphasize that by Baptism we have become sharers in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection; so here the Apostle emphasizes that through Baptism we have become sharers in the same Holy Spirit, we have all drank from the one and same Holy Spirit.

It is not as though there is one baptism into the Spirit, and then another baptism into Christ. There is only the one Baptism, Christian Baptism, which is in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[BNR32FAN]

There is One God
There is One Lord
There is One Faith
There is One Baptism
There is One Jesus
There is only One way to God
There is One Savior

And there is One Gospel

Galatians 1:6
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So since there is only One God, One Savior, One way to God through Christ, One faith, One baptism and One Gospel- there is only one way to be saved.

How do you know you have the right One ?

hope this helps !!!

Well one way to determine this is a person could ask has my gospel been rejected by every church established by the apostles? That’s one indication.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The word of God said baptisms. So I stick with that. I've been around the Greek game and "scholars" for far too long to take it too seriously.

I guess we're playing the "whose translation is right?" game then.

ESV
"and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment."

NIV
"instruction about cleansing rites, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment."

NASB
"of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment."

CSB
"teaching about ritual washings, laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment."

HSCB
"teaching about ritual washings, laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment."

NAS
"of instruction about washings, and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment."

Darby
"of [the] doctrine of washings, and of imposition of hands, and of resurrection of [the] dead, and of eternal judgment;"

Weymouth
"of [the] doctrine of washings, and of imposition of hands, and of resurrection of [the] dead, and of eternal judgment;"

-CryptoLutheran