Question for the Ladies, Men Can Answer as well if they want to

[Sammy-San]

Atheist.

By but flesh I meant most people dont have the gift of singleness. I meant from a Christian bible theological perspecitve.

 

[MehGuy]

Male asian neotony and female asian neotony are distinct from each other. Maybe not as much as other races but still distinct. God wouldnt create people in ways that draw undue attention to gender. Ladyboys are an example that agrees with everything I just said in this post.

There are still differences on average, but the gap is closer than with other races. Interesting phenomenon with increased neoteny. Other races in the future might become less sexually dimorphic within time. I wonder if that would result in a more naturally egalitarian society? Than again.. east Asian societies are still known to be heavily patriarchal especially in this day and age.

 

[MehGuy]

By but flesh I meant most people dont have the gift of singleness. I meant from a Christian bible theological perspecitve.

I do not know what any of that means. My knowledge of a biblical perspective is pretty thin. Have to speak in a language I can better understand. The same could be said to me and you, and I think I have been quite patient and have answered the same questions multiple times.

 

[Sammy-San]

I do not know what any of that means. My knowledge of a biblical perspective is pretty thin. Have to speak in a language I can better understand. The same could be said to me and you, and I think I have been quite patient and have answered the same questions multiple times.

The Bible verse it is not good for man to be alone.

 

[RDKirk]

Male asian neotony and female asian neotony are distinct from each other. Maybe not as much as other races but still distinct. God wouldnt create people in ways that draw undue attention to gender. Ladyboys are an example that agrees with everything I just said in this post.

But God did create people in ways that draw attention to gender ("undue" is a matter of cultural and personal opinion). A naked man and a naked woman--as God created us--are distinctly different in appearance, and more distinctly different in appearance than most other primates.

 

[MehGuy]

The Bible verse it is not good for man to be alone.

What does this have to do with anything? You're speaking to an atheist.. I don't believe God created man or woman. If you do cool, but I don't see the point in asking me this.

 

[RDKirk]

The Bible verse it is not good for man to be alone.

Other species had been created with separate sexes and the text had already stated that humans were to be of separate sexes as well. In context, "...it is not good for man to be alone" references the fact that God wasn't quite finished with humanity yet, "not good" because it was not complete.

 

[Sammy-San]

There are still differences on average, but the gap is closer than with other races. Interesting phenomenon with increased neoteny. Other races in the future might become less sexually dimorphic within time. I wonder if that would result in a more naturally egalitarian society? Than again.. east Asian societies are still known to be heavily patriarchal especially in this day and age.

What are matriarchal societies?

 

[Sammy-San]

Other species had been created with separate sexes and the text had already stated that humans were to be of separate sexes as well. In context, "...it is not good for man to be alone" references the fact that God wasn't quite finished with humanity yet, "not good" because it was not complete.

What does other species having separate sexes have to do with what i said?

I think originally the human race was meant to be only Adam but without the sexual side of maleness but God knows we are but flesh and most people dont have the gift of singleness.

Why wasnt it complete? Either because of most people dont have the gift of singleness or both masculinity or femininity reflect different aspects of Gods image, both of which support what Im saying about faces.

 

[MehGuy]

What are matriarchal societies?

Society ruled by women. I honestly do not know too much about that. Although I'd argue even then, the sperm is cheap eggs are rare mindset would still rule.

Heck.. it probably would not be too different than a patriarchal society besides a shallow switch in leadership. Men would still be the main soldiers, and women would still have less accountability. The actions of many feminists attest to that.. lol.

 

[MehGuy]

Sammy I am curious since you have a gender neutral name.. but are you a man or a woman? Lol..

 

[Sammy-San]

But God did create people in ways that draw attention to gender ("undue" is a matter of cultural and personal opinion). A naked man and a naked woman--as God created us--are distinctly different in appearance, and more distinctly different in appearance than most other primates.

How are we more distinct in appearance than most other primates? I think this has to do with masculinity and femininity reflect different aspects of Gods image.

Another thing. God could have created reproduction in ways that didnt involve off limits ness, but humans dont reproduce like fish. This supports my opinion that masculinity and femininity reflect different aspects of the image of God and male and female faces are distinct.

How are we created in ways that draw attention to gender? What is the order and purpose behind that? God does everything with a design and a purpose.

Maybe other primates arent as distinct because we arent around them as much and we dont have facial recognition like they do.

Androgynous behavior draws undue attention to gender. Do you think thats because it draws undue attention to whats off limits, or it draws undue vain attention to a persons gender identity? By undue attention to a persons gender identity, its akin to its wierd to ascribe the wrong gender to God like feminist theologians do, and it would be wierd if someone called satan a she like some Bible translations do, and someone at my youth group was talking to me about satan and gender, once.

 

[Sammy-San]

Sammy I am curious since you have a gender neutral name.. but are you a man or a woman? Lol..

Im a man. my name is not Sami, which supports my opinion about distinct male and female features.

 

[RDKirk]

I would make a point about this story in Genesis, however, that it's real value and intent is as an "instructive fable" rather than bare history.

By "instructive fable," I don't mean to say that it's factually inaccurate, but that its primary purpose is to teach a truth rather than to describe a fact (and as such, it doesn't actually matter whether it's factually accurate or not, just as Aesop's Fables teach truths without actually being factual).

But the greater importance is that we realize the purpose is to teach a truth, and then to explore what that truth could be.

In this case, I believe the intended truth to be learned is that a man alone is an incomplete being, needing a woman to become a complete symbiotic being.

Particularly importance is the Hebrew word ezer which is translated into English as "help." That word ezer is used 48 times in the Old Testament. Forty-five times, it refers explicitly to God coming to a man's rescue. Two times it refers to an army coming to a man's rescue. One time it refers to a woman...clearly, then, to mean coming to a man's rescue. The woman is not "hand me that wrench" help, the woman is "rescue me!" help.

I think that is the purpose of this story as an instructive fable.

 

[MehGuy]

Im a man. my name is not Sami, which supports my opinion about distinct male and female features.

Alright.

Your name not actually Sammy doesn't support anything (not sure what you're trying to prove). It still is a name used for both genders.

 

[Sammy-San]

I would make a point about this story in Genesis, however, that it's real value and intent is as an "instructive fable" rather than bare history.

By "instructive fable," I don't mean to say that it's factually inaccurate, but that its primary purpose is to teach a truth rather than to describe a fact (and as such, it doesn't actually matter whether it's factually accurate or not, just as Aesop's Fables teach truths without actually being factual).

But the greater importance is that we realize the purpose is to teach a truth, and then to explore what that truth could be.

In this case, I believe the intended truth to be learned is that a man alone is an incomplete being, needing a woman to become a complete symbiotic being.

Particularly importance is the Hebrew word ezer which is translated into English as "help." That word ezer is used 48 times in the Old Testament. Forty-five times, it refers explicitly to God coming to a man's rescue. Two times it refers to an army coming to a man's rescue. One time it refers to a woman...clearly, then, to mean coming to a man's rescue. The woman is not "hand me that wrench" help, the woman is "rescue me!" help.

I think that is the purpose of this story as an instructive fable.

Why did God create men and women and not a man or a woman or all men and all women?

Why do you think a man needs a woman to be a complete symbiotic meaning? I think marriage is the fleshly joining of the separation relating to Eve being made from Adams rib.

People dont need marriage or friendships to be complete.

What you said about symbiotic beings supports what I said about distinct male and female faces.

 

[Sammy-San]

Alright.

Your name not actually Sammy doesn't support anything (not sure what you're trying to prove). It still is a name used for both genders.

The name Sami being feminine does. It would be wierd if a woman was called Steven.

 

[MehGuy]

The name Sami being feminine does. It would be wierd if a woman was called Steven.

What about Sammy Davis Jr.? Maybe it was originally a feminine name, but it isn't any longer.

 

[Sammy-San]

I would make a point about this story in Genesis, however, that it's real value and intent is as an "instructive fable" rather than bare history.

By "instructive fable," I don't mean to say that it's factually inaccurate, but that its primary purpose is to teach a truth rather than to describe a fact (and as such, it doesn't actually matter whether it's factually accurate or not, just as Aesop's Fables teach truths without actually being factual).

But the greater importance is that we realize the purpose is to teach a truth, and then to explore what that truth could be.

In this case, I believe the intended truth to be learned is that a man alone is an incomplete being, needing a woman to become a complete symbiotic being.

Particularly importance is the Hebrew word ezer which is translated into English as "help." That word ezer is used 48 times in the Old Testament. Forty-five times, it refers explicitly to God coming to a man's rescue. Two times it refers to an army coming to a man's rescue. One time it refers to a woman...clearly, then, to mean coming to a man's rescue. The woman is not "hand me that wrench" help, the woman is "rescue me!" help.

I think that is the purpose of this story as an instructive fable.

Why would there be a parable about a married couple being one flesh. sounds wierd.

 

[Sammy-San]

What about Sammy Davis Jr.? Maybe it was originally a feminine name, but it isn't any longer.

The Davis Jr name doesnt make it feminine.