Question for the Ladies, Men Can Answer as well if they want to

[MehGuy]

I'd like to see you do a test judging east Asian male faces and Australian aboriginal female faces.

Also I'm not clicking on those links, and I hope they don't lead to things that will get this thread shut down.

 

[Sammy-San]

I'd like to see you do a test judging east Asian male faces and Australian aboriginal female faces.

Also I'm not clicking on this links, and I hope they don't lead to things that will get this thread shut down.

What do you mean?

So you think that markers or masculinity of femininity having a handsome or pretty look are just about reproduction?

 

[MehGuy]

What do you mean?

So you think that markers or masculinity of femininity having a handsome or pretty look are just about reproduction?

You would be comparing two extremes of average neoteny between the human races.

 

[Sammy-San]

You would be comparing two extremes of average neoteny between the human races.

That still supports my arguement.

 

[RDKirk]

It looks wierd on men.

I've never thought it looked weird in pictures of Jesus.

 

[MehGuy]

That still supports my arguement.

How does it support your argument? If you're taking within races fine (to a lesser extent). Outside of it, not so much.

 

[RDKirk]

I'd like to see you do a test judging east Asian male faces and Australian aboriginal female faces.

Also I'm not clicking on this links, and I hope they don't lead to things that will get this thread shut down.

When I was in the Far East in Thailand in the 70s and the Philippines in the 80s, the chances of a GI accidentally picking up a "ladyboy" from a bar was quite high. I knew a photographer who did publicity photographs for them in Hawaii, and it was hard to distinguish looking at the photographs.

And they were doing nothing but putting on makeup and swimming suits.

But I have to point out that I was observing the phenomenon as an American-born African-American looking at the Asian phenotype for the cues I knew of Caucasian and African phenotypes. It's very likely an Asian man could have spotted things I didn't.

 

[Sammy-San]

When I was in the Far East in Thailand in the 70s and the Philippines in the 80s, the chances of a GI accidentally picking up a "ladyboy" from a bar was quite high. I knew a photographer who did publicity photographs for them in Hawaii, and it was hard to distinguish looking at the photographs.

And they were doing nothing but putting on makeup and swimming suits.

But I have to point out that I was observing the phenomenon as an American-born African-American looking at the Asian phenotype for the cues I knew of Caucasian and African phenotypes. It's very likely an Asian man could have spotted things I didn't.

Everything you mentioned agrees with what I said about male and female faces.

 

[Sammy-San]

I've never thought it looked weird in pictures of Jesus.

Many of those pictures werent so long that they looked feminine let alone effeminate.

 

[MehGuy]

But I have to point out that I was observing the phenomenon as an American-born African-American looking at the Asian phenotype for the cues I knew of Caucasian and African phenotypes. It's very likely an Asian man could have spotted things I didn't.

That is true. Although east Asian and women do have less sexual dimorphism with each other compared to many other races. So they would probably still have a little more trouble distinguishing "ladyboys" within their own race compared to European and African races. At least for the most part, I know even Europeans and Africans have different phenotypes within each other, but east Asians are still generally regarded as the most neotenous race on earth. The Chinese specifically.

 

[Sammy-San]

When I was in the Far East in Thailand in the 70s and the Philippines in the 80s, the chances of a GI accidentally picking up a "ladyboy" from a bar was quite high. I knew a photographer who did publicity photographs for them in Hawaii, and it was hard to distinguish looking at the photographs.

And they were doing nothing but putting on makeup and swimming suits.

But I have to point out that I was observing the phenomenon as an American-born African-American looking at the Asian phenotype for the cues I knew of Caucasian and African phenotypes. It's very likely an Asian man could have spotted things I didn't.

What you said about Asian and Caucasian and African phenotypes supports what i said about masculine and feminine looking faces.

What part of Africa do you think youre from? I think Im Egyptian and Im Italian.

 

[Sammy-San]

When I was in the Far East in Thailand in the 70s and the Philippines in the 80s, the chances of a GI accidentally picking up a "ladyboy" from a bar was quite high. I knew a photographer who did publicity photographs for them in Hawaii, and it was hard to distinguish looking at the photographs.

And they were doing nothing but putting on makeup and swimming suits.

But I have to point out that I was observing the phenomenon as an American-born African-American looking at the Asian phenotype for the cues I knew of Caucasian and African phenotypes. It's very likely an Asian man could have spotted things I didn't.

Even with makeup and swimming suits there are still masculine and feminine facial features that are distinct, similar to how africans and african americans have distinct faces. Africans in America and African Americans look distinct. Obama was called an African African American and African Americans are the only group that are never called just African similar to how Italian Americans are called Italians or Italian Americans. Someone said im not Italian American im Italian.

Black and Jewish people tend to be very ambiguous about their ethnicity. Ive never heard slave descendants or Ashkenazi Jews says they are African or Hebrew. People use Jewish as as a synonym for Italian and a synonym for Christian.

 

[MehGuy]

Even with makeup and swimming suits there are still masculine and feminine facial features that are distinct, similar to how africans and african americans have distinct faces. Africans in America and African Americans look distinct. Obama was called an African African American and African Americans are the only group that are never called just African similar to how Italian Americans are called Italians or Italian Americans. Someone said im not Italian American im Italian.

Black and Jewish people tend to be very ambiguous about their ethnicity. Ive never heard slave descendants or Ashkenazi Jews says they are African or Hebrew. People use Jewish as as a synonym for Italian and a synonym for Christian.

Be honest.. do you really think if you were given a test where you had to rate just faces and answer whether or not they were men or women that you would get 100% on the test?

 

[Sammy-San]

Be honest.. do you really think if you were given a test where you had to rate just faces and answer whether or not they were men or women that you would get 100% on the test?

At this point no because of all the discussions creating ocd about obvious details.

 

[Sammy-San]

Be honest.. do you really think if you were given a test where you had to rate just faces and answer whether or not they were men or women that you would get 100% on the test?

Being a man or a woman isnt about a persons reproductive functions its also about their appearence.

 

[Sammy-San]

Be honest.. do you really think if you were given a test where you had to rate just faces and answer whether or not they were men or women that you would get 100% on the test?

Without a different appearance gender would be a vulgar concept. A persons appearance reveals their gender, meaning that appearance and genitals have a similar symmetry and create a new concept. This agrees with what I said about male and female faces.

 

[MehGuy]

At this point no because of all the discussions creating ocd about obvious details.

Already with the excuses? Lol.

That's just biology.. not everything is black and white. Although one can go too far and take this the other way like some liberals do and construe almost everything be the result of a social construct. I hope people do not take my latest posts in tis thread that way. I just want an honest assessment about the differences between men and women, and want to call out the more shallow things being addressed because it makes the biological side look worse when we don't.

If we want to change the mindset of the culture, we need to be as rational as possible.

 

[Sammy-San]

Already with the excuses? Lol.

That's just biology.. not everything is black and white. Although one can go too far and take this the other way like some liberals do and construe almost everything be the result of a social construct. I hope people do not take my latest posts in tis thread that way. I just want an honest assessment about the differences between men and women, and want to call out the more shallow things being addressed because it makes the biological side look worse when we don't.

If we want to change the mindset of the culture, we need to be as rational as possible.

Do you think men and women exist because God knows we are but flesh?

 

[MehGuy]

Do you think men and women exist because God knows we are but flesh?

Atheist.

 

[Sammy-San]

That is true. Although east Asian and women do have less sexual dimorphism with each other compared to many other races. So they would probably still have a little more trouble distinguishing "ladyboys" within their own race compared to European and African races. At least for the most part, I know even Europeans and Africans have different phenotypes within each other, but east Asians are still generally regarded as the most neotenous race on earth. The Chinese specifically.

Male asian neotony and female asian neotony are distinct from each other. Maybe not as much as other races but still distinct. God wouldnt create people in ways that draw undue attention to gender. Ladyboys are an example that agrees with everything I just said in this post.