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No, however, Vikings, are recorded as landing in the Americas, and all that has been shown to you, they arrived by ships. Records indicate they apparently took a few native women with them. And yes, they made quite an impression and they were waiting fir them to return and thought it was Cortez---they thought that the Vi8kings were Gods. Until such archeological evidence shows any such thing, we go by the bible which does not in any way state that Jesus did anything other than sit down at the right hand of Gold and then proceeded to act as our Heavenly High Priest.
You are making my point. The Vikings landed in North America and if what you say is true, and the natives in NA thought the Vikings were gods, then even this far north, the true event in Central America had an impact in natives as far north as Maine.

The fact is, Jesus Christ came to the Americas and taught his gospel and said he would return.
This event was substantiated by the Vikings and by Cortez. Thank you for that.

Jesus said:
John 10:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Jesus was sent to the House of Israel. The natives of America were of the House of Joseph of the House of Israel. They were not of the fold of the Jews. They were of the fold of Joseph.

Jesus said they would hear his voice. And they did, regardless of what the bible says. The bible only has recorded 1/10,000th of what Jesus said and did.

He was the great white bearded God of the natives of the Americas. Again, time will tell.
 
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Acts 3:19-21

Acts 3:21 says Heaven must receive Jesus until the times of restitution of all things

Bible does not say He will leave to go to America
The bible does not say he would leave and then come back to visit Paul either, but he did. He left the side of his Father and came to earth again and visited Paul on the road to Damascus.
 
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Acts 3:19-21

Acts 3:21 says Heaven must receive Jesus until the times of restitution of all things

Bible does not say He will leave to go to America
BTW, when is the restitution of all things going to happen, or has it happened?
 
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As mmksparbud said above, Jesus sat down at the right hand of the Father, and that is the last place the Bible has Him.

And that is where He remains until the Times of restitution of all things, according to Acts 3:21
You must have forgotten that he left his Fathers side to come to earth to visit Paul.

And he also left his Fathers side to come to earth and visit John the Revelator and give him the book of Revelations first hand.

So that is 2 times the bible did not say he would return to Paul or to John, but he did. Remember the bible only has less than 1/10,000th of what Jesus said or did, so we cannot count on the bible for everything.
 
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You are making my point. The Vikings landed in North America and if what you say is true, and the natives in NA thought the Vikings were gods, then even this far north, the true event in Central America had an impact in natives as far north as Maine.

The fact is, Jesus Christ came to the Americas and taught his gospel and said he would return.
This event was substantiated by the Vikings and by Cortez. Thank you for that.

Jesus said:
John 10:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Jesus was sent to the House of Israel. The natives of America were of the House of Joseph of the House of Israel. They were not of the fold of the Jews. They were of the fold of Joseph.

Jesus said they would hear his voice. And they did, regardless of what the bible says. The bible only has recorded 1/10,000th of what Jesus said and did.

He was the great white bearded God of the natives of the Americas. Again, time will tell.

Sorry, but dates do not jive as the Hieroglyphics are from after the Vikings, not before. They thought the Vikings were gods, just because they were so different and white and the weapons they had and so forth, not because they had been expecting them. It was after the Vikings that they then began to expect them to come back and then they thought Cortez were gods come back.
 
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You must have forgotten that he left his Fathers side to come to earth to visit Paul.

And he also left his Fathers side to come to earth and visit John the Revelator and give him the book of Revelations first hand.

So that is 2 times the bible did not say he would return to Paul or to John, but he did. Remember the bible only has less than 1/10,000th of what Jesus said or did, so we cannot count on the bible for everything.


That was in visions, not actually physically present in this world.
 
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That is the way God gave it to Joseph Smith word for word.
Except for the few thousand corrections to that "word for word". :doh: The lds have a translation problem and you can't even see it.
 
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You are making my point. The Vikings landed in North America and if what you say is true, and the natives in NA thought the Vikings were gods, then even this far north, the true event in Central America had an impact in natives as far north as Maine.

The fact is, Jesus Christ came to the Americas and taught his gospel and said he would return.
This event was substantiated by the Vikings and by Cortez. Thank you for that.

Jesus said:
John 10:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Jesus was sent to the House of Israel. The natives of America were of the House of Joseph of the House of Israel. They were not of the fold of the Jews. They were of the fold of Joseph.

Jesus said they would hear his voice. And they did, regardless of what the bible says. The bible only has recorded 1/10,000th of what Jesus said and did.

He was the great white bearded God of the natives of the Americas. Again, time will tell.


Another thing that really does not make sense about Jesus having gone to the Americas. When the Spaniards did come---human sacrificing was still in practice. Do you really think that if Jesus had been there, He would not have denounced these terrible practices? He cleansed a Jewish temple---what do yo0u thi9nk He wo0uld have done to these pagan idols and human sacrifices? He certainly would not have left it as He found them. No indication that this Jesus you claimed to have been there, ever accomplished a single thing to change a single thing in these people's lives.
 
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That was in visions, not actually physically present in this world.
All you have to do is read the account again and you will know that Jesus was there personally.

Acts 26:13-18 King James Version (KJV)
13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

What made the bright light?
Jesus said: I have appeared unto thee for this purpose.....
Is it possible that Paul could not see Jesus because the light was so bright around him. Yes. Jesus was there.
This happened in the middle of the day, not a night dream or sleepy visiony thing. It was a real event in which Jesus appeared to Paul and told him what to do.
 
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All you have to do is read the account again and you will know that Jesus was there personally.

Acts 26:13-18 King James Version (KJV)
13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

What made the bright light?
Jesus said: I have appeared unto thee for this purpose.....
Is it possible that Paul could not see Jesus because the light was so bright around him. Yes. Jesus was there.
This happened in the middle of the day, not a night dream or sleepy visiony thing. It was a real event in which Jesus appeared to Paul and told him what to do.

It is the light of Jesus for sure, but He shone without touching this earth. He will not touch this earth again until after this earth is remade and the New Jerusalem comes down. His feet will not touch this polluted, sin cursed world again till then.

Mat_24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

He doe not tell His disciples this and then go and appear in some other country. Believe it not, and I do not.
 
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Except for the few thousand corrections to that "word for word". :doh: The lds have a translation problem and you can't even see it.
Joseph Smith did not have a revelation problem. His ability to receive revelation is manifest in the Book of Mormon.
 
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Joseph Smith did not have a revelation problem. His ability to receive revelation is manifest in the Book of Mormon.


It certainly is---and it is now a n established fact, born out by the LDS, that Jesus Christ can not spell nor use the correct words in this "word for word translation that needed correction, how many times???
 
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It certainly is---and it is now a n established fact, born out by the LDS, that Jesus Christ can not spell nor use the correct words in this "word for word translation that needed correction, how many times???
There were other things like typesetter mistakes, and man made mistakes:

(Book of Mormon | Preface Title Page:2)

And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment–seat of Christ.
 
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It is the light of Jesus for sure, but He shone without touching this earth. He will not touch this earth again until after this earth is remade and the New Jerusalem comes down. His feet will not touch this polluted, sin cursed world again till then.

Mat_24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

He doe not tell His disciples this and then go and appear in some other country. Believe it not, and I do not.
So Jesus didn't touch the earth? How do you know he was above Paul in the air and did not touch the earth. So I don't think Jesus was afraid of putting his holy foot on an unclean earth.

Think about this timeline:
1) Jesus is crucified on Friday
2) Jesus meets Mary on Sunday and tells her: do not touch me because I am going to my Father, and my God who is in heaven. I would think that some time that day he did go to his Father in heaven. Any reason to believe otherwise?
3) Jesus then returns to earth and meets with his apostles in the room where all the doors and windows are closed. Not only does he return and put his foot on the evil earth, but he goes through evil doors, and lets evil dirty men touch him, and he eats dirty evil earthly food.
How awful for Jesus.
4) Then Jesus meets his disciples in Galilee and eats more dirty and evil earthly food, and he instructs his apostles some more and in fact from the time he came back to evil earth, he met with somewhere around 500 dirty evil people of the earth, polluted, and fallen evil people of the earth.
5) After all this polution to his holy body, he then returns to his Father and his God in heaven.
6) After Jesus returned to his Father and his God, he again returns to the evil earth and to the sheep of the other fold that he said he must preach to, of the house of Israel, in the Americas, and was with them for X days, and then again returned to his Father and his God.

Jesus has come back to the earth many times since being resurrected. Despite the fallen state of the earth.
 
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Except for the few thousand corrections to that "word for word". :doh: The lds have a translation problem and you can't even see it.
What, some punctuation, and spelling problems? We can see those clearly, and it does not hurt the translation. Not one bit.
 
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Joseph lost the plates that he found in gloCkumorah?
What is gloCKumorah? Is it a rather childish attempt to trash the Church of Jesus Christ?

Or is it an unChristian attempt to be rude to your fellow believer in Jesus Christ?
 
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Joseph lost the plates that he found in gloCkumorah?
Joseph did not lose the plates, he lost the manuscript for the Book of Lehi or it could have been stolen when Martin Harris took it to show it to his wife.
 
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So Jesus didn't touch the earth? How do you know he was above Paul in the air and did not touch the earth. So I don't think Jesus was afraid of putting his holy foot on an unclean earth.

Think about this timeline:
1) Jesus is crucified on Friday
2) Jesus meets Mary on Sunday and tells her: do not touch me because I am going to my Father, and my God who is in heaven. I would think that some time that day he did go to his Father in heaven. Any reason to believe otherwise?
3) Jesus then returns to earth and meets with his apostles in the room where all the doors and windows are closed. Not only does he return and put his foot on the evil earth, but he goes through evil doors, and lets evil dirty men touch him, and he eats dirty evil earthly food.
How awful for Jesus.
4) Then Jesus meets his disciples in Galilee and eats more dirty and evil earthly food, and he instructs his apostles some more and in fact from the time he came back to evil earth, he met with somewhere around 500 dirty evil people of the earth, polluted, and fallen evil people of the earth.
5) After all this polution to his holy body, he then returns to his Father and his God in heaven.
6) After Jesus returned to his Father and his God, he again returns to the evil earth and to the sheep of the other fold that he said he must preach to, of the house of Israel, in the Americas, and was with them for X days, and then again returned to his Father and his God.

Jesus has come back to the earth many times since being resurrected. Despite the fallen state of the earth.


All of those are before He went bac k to Heaven. Once thee, He has not come back and will not un t8il His return for us. The rest have been in visions.

Mat_24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

He is not going to say that, and turn around and go to some other country. And, as I said, where is the proof that He was anywhere in the Americas, for they continued to have human sacrifice until the Spaniards came. Jesus turned over the tables at the temple, how much more would He have turned over the stones used for human sacrifice in the Americas. No such thing happened. Our Jesus is not ineffectual. When He showed up---things changed. When your Jesus shows up, things stayed the same.
 
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