Would Hillary have managed COVID-19 better?

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I have to wonder just how many lives Trump saved by banning travel from China alone when he did, and if the humongous amount of those lives he may have saved there immediately and with the trickle down affect far surpass any wrong he may have done.

And that's not to say he did anything any more wrong than anyone else would have done. It's a pandemic, people are going to die. Who here could have done better?
He didn't save any lives. Because, infected Americans were still coming back to America. From all over the world. I'm sure he lost more lives, when he didn't look at Obama pandemic pamphlet. And then he told his supporters to protest Democrat shut down. And they did.
 
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Considering that our numbers are ten times worse than almost every other country--although only two to.four times as bad as three other countries run by callous dictators--i imagine that Hillary would have done at least as well as The other countries, and our numbers would be 90% lower--or more.

Leadership matters. Dump Trump. Our lives depend on it.
 
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Let's not wait that long, I'll put this in my calendar and lets see where we are 1 year from now.

I guess the joke's on us skeptics. He got raptured earlier this year.

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Honestly, I’m not certain. But I’m sure she respects medical science and would have been much more receptive to the advice of qualified experts. I doubt she would have emphasized maintaining economic growth over limiting the spread of disease to the degree that Donald Trump has.

I’m just curious as to what others think.
Yes she could’ve. But…
Barney Fife could’ve managed better than EX President Trump. The only people that might have been worse would be the Trump legal team.
 
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I guess the joke's on us skeptics. He got raptured earlier this year.

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I have been posting here: Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

I was suspended from posting on this site so I went to Christianchat.com and have been there. In this blog I have managed to gather as comprehensive a list of the quotes and references as I could.
 
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I was suspended from posting on this site

That's a bummer, but hey... it's not the end of the world.

Speaking of which, a year ago, you were uttering some dire prophecies: "Wake up, this is the Festival of Trumpets, it is the end of the age, prepare to meet your God."

"the day of the Lord is fast approaching."

"I'll put this in my calendar and lets see where we are 1 year from now."

So 1 year on, where are we?
 
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Honestly, I’m not certain. But I’m sure she respects medical science and would have been much more receptive to the advice of qualified experts. I doubt she would have emphasized maintaining economic growth over limiting the spread of disease to the degree that Donald Trump has.

I’m just curious as to what others think.

Any reasonably competent leader would've handled it better... and they did.

I believe the main reason we're not overrun by plague is because local and state leaders were able to compensate for federal mismanagement.
 
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That's a bummer, but hey... it's not the end of the world.
LOL

Speaking of which, a year ago, you were uttering some dire prophecies: "Wake up, this is the Festival of Trumpets, it is the end of the age, prepare to meet your God."

"the day of the Lord is fast approaching."

I am concerned about carrying out this conversation here, the whole "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" attitude. That is why I have directed you to my blog on Christian Chat.com Summary of Bible references on the rapture. There are over 1,200 posts there, not all by me, but 99.9% focused on the evidence and where we are, maybe only one poor attempt at "chaff and redirect" by someone.

That said, let me answer this question as succinctly as I can.

End of Age is not the end of the earth, the universe, or life. If you understand "world" as any of those things then calling it the end of the world is an error. If however, you understand world as a satanic system similar to Pharaoh running Egypt, then fine, end of Age = End of World. Satan told Jesus at the beginning of this age that he could give the whole world to Jesus if Jesus would worship him. Jesus refused and so the war to "drain the swamp" began then.

Yes, I have concluded that the Revelation 12 sign was the fulfillment of Trumpets (I go into great detail on my blog, it is an amazing sign and there is very much to learn from it). But just like a sign on the highway that says "NYC 250 miles" this sign is like that. The Festival of Trumpets is ten days before the day of Atonement and we understand that to mean 10 years before the true end of the Age where we learn who is and who is not written in the book of life.

When I say "we" I attempt to provide links to any ministry I find useful, so the blog makes a concerted effort to link in numerous other ministries.

"I'll put this in my calendar and lets see where we are 1 year from now."

So 1 year on, where are we?

The focus of my blog is to answer this question. One major issue was to understand how the calendar is calculated, after finally deciding it was beyond me, throwing my hands up in defeat and asking God for help he led me to two brothers who explained it and I now feel I have a much better understanding from scripture. I provide all the posts on this as well but in short the New Moon is a 2-3 day weekend at the end of every month, when you see the sliver of the New Moon that is the first day of the month, the seventh day, the sabbath is counted from that day (no such thing as "Saturday" so kind of a bummer to all those who thought they were keeping the sabbath holy by keeping Saturday --Saturn's day). Doing this every month has 4 Sabbaths with one long new moon weekend. Second, the first day of the year is always after the Vernal equinox, however, the Bible doesn't word it that way, rather it says the equinox is "the end of the year". Third, seven sabbaths after feast of unleavened bread is not 49 days because you must count two New Moon Sabbaths which would not be two days but most likely five days. So then it is a big mistake to confuse Pentecost which is 50 days with Shavuot which is the day after you count seven sabbaths.

We had two very big signs prior to Shavuot this year, both the Sun and the moon were darkened and the Pacific ocean was turned to blood from the blood moon. That is a fulfillment of prophecy (I go into great detail over all the signs of the various solar and lunar eclipses and they are quite amazing -- this work has been done by others and either I summarize or post links to their videos).

I also learned that the three gospels refer to three groups that get raptured using the basic principle of the first shall be last and the last first. There is a very strong justification for viewing the gospels this way and I go through the verses comparing the three gospels. But the point is that I focus on Luke to see what is going to happen prior to the first rapture and "where are we right now".

There are two really big prophecies given in Luke that appear to take place immediately before the end.

1. We see Jerusalem compassed about with soldiers. However this prophecy should not be confused with the one in Matthew nor should it be confused with other accounts throughout the Bible concerning Armageddon and the rapture of the Jews when the Lord steps down on the Mt. of Olives. This is an event that takes place about seven years before that. There are several prophets who in discussing 9/11 and other events in the US relate the US as having the dichotomy of being both the Great Babylon and also Jerusalem. There is a whole lot we had to dig into on that but suffice it to say that Washington DC being surrounded by troops this year was a fulfillment of prophecy and a great sign concerning the Lord's coming.

2. The other really big one is that there is a war that takes place in heaven and the stars of heaven fall. Remember we began this age with the Lord making it clear to Satan that He would dethrone him from the world and cast him out (the NT version of saying He would drain the swamp). Since the Revelation 12 sign has already taken place that puts us currently in Revelation 12. The term "corona" means crown, and when a babies head appears it is called "crowning". That is were we are right now the baby is about to be born, when this baby is born he will be caught up to heaven and there will no longer be any place found for Satan and his angels and they will be cast out. They are trying to stop the audit, trying to stop investigations into murders and human trafficking, and all that is simply birth pains.

In this analogy I would say the water has already broken and we are now in labor.
 
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That said, let me answer this question as succinctly as I can.

There is another approach to looking at this which several saints have really focused on, which is to look at the Calendar. The Bible has numerous prophecies that there is a time for everything under the sun and surely the rapture would be considered one of those things. I went through the use of "appointed time" and "appointed day" and you can make a compelling case that these references do indeed refer to the Lord's return, I put that in a post as have others who I have linked their teachings into the blog.

So then they have carefully looked at all the feast days in Leviticus and to my opinion we have eliminated all of them. This is logical. In some respects this first rapture is to provoke the Jews to jealousy and that would have been really bad form if God had given a date for that to take place in Leviticus before the Jews had even fallen. The fall took place on the 9th of Av (depending on how you calculate the calendar the 9th of Av was either six days ago or will be on August 16th). God made it a day of perpetual crying (there are posts listing the fulfillment of this) but this day which is considered the saddest day on the calendar is directly linked to the happiest day on the calendar the 15th of Av (either starts today at sunset or Aug 22). This day is when Benjamin (the son of my right hand) was able to snatch brides from Shiloh so that they would not be exterminated, it was the day when the dead in Christ rose first realizing the 40 year curse in the wilderness was over, and it is the day when we no longer need to hang on a tree (you can stop chopping wood). So then there is a very high watch both this weekend and Aug 22.

Others say hey, we can't know the day but what about the year and the season. One brother will post a video this afternoon discussing why the tribulation must start this fall. Others have already presented quite a bit of evidence on this as well.

Others say "what about the season" and there is very compelling evidence that the first rapture takes place during the summer. That would make the Fall equinox of Sept 21 a deadline of sorts. Again, all of this is in the blog.
 
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At least 3,000,000 more American voters believe Hillary would have handled this crisis better than trump. There's plenty of evidence to support the claim too. I mean Hillary Clinton is still helping many people throughout the world with the Clinton Foundation. Trump only helps himself, which is why his "charities" have been shuttered by the courts!
 
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At least 3,000,000 more American voters believe Hillary would have handled this crisis better than trump. There's plenty of evidence to support the claim too. I mean Hillary Clinton is still helping many people throughout the world with the Clinton Foundation. Trump only helps himself, which is why his "charities" have been shuttered by the courts!
But Hillary was a terrible Secretary of State and nothing special as a Senator. Both were jobs she was given by the establishment and she didn't have to do much of anything to get them.

Nevertheless, her lackluster performance in both were inferior to Trump's 'take charge' style as President...even if some people don't care for his manner and his haircut. And his accomplishments, often against determined opposition, were many and significant. Nothing like that can be said of Hillary.
 
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But Hillary was a terrible Secretary of State and nothing special as a Senator. Both were jobs she was given by the establishment and she didn't have to do much of anything to get them.

Nevertheless, her lackluster performance in both were inferior to Trump's 'take charge' style as President...even if some people don't care for his manner and his haircut. And his accomplishments, often against determined opposition, were many and significant. Nothing like that can be said of Hillary.
Yeah, since her husband's impeachment republicans have been smearing Hillary because she is competent and capable. She actually earned her senate seat by winning more votes than her opponent. Trump has never won a majority of votes. Then Hillary showed humility when Obama beat her in 2008. Her humble behavior and aptitude led to her becoming SOS. You are free to allow bias and passion to obscure reality.
 
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Yeah, since her husband's impeachment republicans have been smearing Hillary because she is competent and capable.
You imagine that she was "smeared" because she was so competent that she represented a threat to the Republican Party? ;)

But if she was so competent, her record would show a lot of competence, no??

As I pointed out before, she was given two high positions in government because her party wanted to set her up for a run at the presidency...and she flopped in both of them! No one needed to "smear" her; Hillary provided all the necessary evidence all by herself.
 
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