You get offended because somebody dare's to question a statement made by Jesus? Isn't this a bit of pearl clutching?
Look, it may not be clear to many Christians, but just because Jesus said something isn't a reason for the rest of us to accept it uncritically.
No I get offended when I am misquoted and my position is distorted. Fortunately it is in writing so everyone can see that is precisely what you have done.
1. Caliban said that the golden rule is "immature". That is his opinion, that doesn't offend me, but it is insulting to the Lord and the Bible. So I said that it was an insult to the Lord.
But I then questioned him. If you say that the golden rule is immature then surely you have a "more mature" measurement, what is it?
I had to ask again and again. Finally he responds by giving me a non response, a link that does not explain why it is "immature" nor does it give a more mature measurement.
So again I ask and he says he answered, I just couldn't understand. But I persisted and his answer for what was a better measurement was exposed to be horribly flawed.
1. He says that you need to treat people the way they want to be treated, not the way you want to be treated.
A. First major issue is this requires you to be omniscient. I brought this up and he said that was absurd. Therefore it requires a person to tell you how they want to be treated, and it infers you might not know that until they tell you. Well, the Lord's golden rule would require you to honor someone's wishes (as long as it weren't sinful). I want to be respected, I want people to treat my requests with respect, so likewise if you make a request of me then according to the golden rule I must honor that. So this complaint was a total smokescreen and his better way was a joke since even he agrees that he does not require you to be omniscient.
B. The golden rule has a perfect fit with the corollary -- as you have done it will be done to you. Righteous judgement. I am required to treat people the way I want to be treated, if I do that I also will be treated the same way when the Lord judges me. Therefore I have nothing to fear at that judgement. But his rule makes it a joke. What is the corollary of treat people the way they want to be treated? 1 million different standards when you need to be judged. Everyone has their own personal opinion about what one kilogram is and now I am going to be judged by a million different standards that I don't even know? How is that righteous?
But it gets worse, I also asked him if Ghislaine Maxwell could be good (his answer was no). A murderer? (no). A thief? (no). There is no way for someone to be good once they've committed some heinous crime. Quite contrary to the New Testament which describes the thief on the cross being forgiven and it describes a woman caught in adultery being forgiven and it describes the Apostle Paul, involved in the murder of Saint Stephen being forgiven. So on one hand you don't need God to be good, but on the other once you've made a mistake you are out of luck.
But here is what offended me. He said you need to treat people the way they want to be treated. I want him to have an honest debate. Answer this. He is the one who said the golden rule was immature, he is the one that put forth this absurd measure as being "more mature" and he is the one that started this thread. But when valid questions, issues, and complaints are raised he just ran and hid. He did not treat me the way I want to be treated and that is hypocrisy. Not good.
