Would Hillary have managed COVID-19 better?

[iluvatar5150]

No more silly than the mater of fact statements Hillary would have done better, I mean seriously people....don't be silly, you have no earthly idea what she would have done by comparison.

No, your statement is definitely sillier. It's not unreasonable to look at Trump's failings and compare them to how Hillary conducted herself in other, relevantly similar situations.

Does Hillary have a problem with understanding complex technical issues the way Trump does? Not that I'm aware of.
Does Hillary have a history of hiring incompetent sycophants and yes-men the way Trump does? Not that I'm aware of.
Does Hillary have a history of confusing, undisciplined messaging? No.
Does Hillary have a history of pooh-poohing the opinions of expert scientific advisors? Not that I'm aware of.
Does Hillary have a history of running a disorganized mess of an administration the was Trump has? Not that I'm aware of.

None of that is any guarantee that things would've been much better, but many of Trump's weaknesses are not weaknesses that Hillary has displayed.

 

[Kenny'sID]

No, your statement is definitely sillier.

lol.

 

[pitabread]

No more silly than the mater of fact statements Hillary would have done better, I mean seriously people....don't be silly, you have no earthly idea what she would have done by comparison.

We can, however, look at the various weaknesses in Trump's leadership and response as a crisis manager to gauge whether someone like Clinton would have done better/worse. I have a hard time imagining anyone could have managed the U.S. response worse than Trump has so far.

 

[durangodawood]

I cant think of any president, D or R, who's lives in his own dream world like Trump does.

I guess Reagan preferred myth over reality. But at least Reagan's dreams were about something other than his own self image.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I have a hard time imagining anyone could have managed the U.S. response worse than Trump has so far.

A given from any demarcate....nothing new here.

 

[iluvatar5150]

A given from any demarcate....nothing new here.

The topic of the thread is whether or not Hillary would've handled the covid response better. If you don't like people opining on that subject, then perhaps this isn't the thread for you.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The topic of the thread is whether or not Hillary would've handled the covid response better. If you don't like people opining on that subject, then perhaps this isn't the thread for you.

Not sure what gave you the idea I had a problem with that, did you not read my post where I merely stated, no one really knows, to those who said matter of factly Hillary could have done better. People weren't being truthful in their comments so I tried to shed a little light on reality for you all, nothing more.

No one is trying to stop you all from bashing Trump iof that is what you think, we are used to that, so by all means, carry on.

 

[driewerf]

Yet we have no proof whatsoever Hillary would have done better.

Hillary Clinton wouldn't have tweeted the infamous "liberate ..." tweets, which made it for governors so much more difficult to impose the lockdown measures. Clinton wouldn't have downgraded the wearing of masks, Clinton wouldn't have deflected the attention to lifeless statues. Clinton wouldn't have started stupid, counterproductive rows with the press.

these things alone would have make Clinton handle the pandemic better.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Honestly, I’m not certain. But I’m sure she respects medical science and would have been much more receptive to the advice of qualified experts. I doubt she would have emphasized maintaining economic growth over limiting the spread of disease to the degree that Donald Trump has.

I’m just curious as to what others think.

How would Hillary handle Covid? If she never contracts it we will just never know.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Hillary Clinton wouldn't have tweeted the infamous "liberate ..." tweets, which made it for governors so much more difficult to impose the lockdown measures. Clinton wouldn't have downgraded the wearing of masks, Clinton wouldn't have deflected the attention to lifeless statues. Clinton wouldn't have started stupid, counterproductive rows with the press.

these things alone would have make Clinton handle the pandemic better.

I know, democrat say Trump bad democrat good...

It's a 4 yr old song now of which everyone is familiar with the tune.

 

[loveofourlord]

No more silly than the mater of fact statements Hillary would have done better, I mean seriously people....don't be silly, you have no earthly idea what she would have done by comparison.

except it's pretty much a given anyone but trump wouldn't have tried to make covid and the economy a re-election issue and downplay everything, try to start protests to ruin attempts to slow covid. Probably would have pushed for executive orders and things that would have helped manufacture more PPE and things. Heck if she did NOTHING she would have done better then trump.

 

[pitabread]

I know, democrat say Trump bad democrat good...

It's a 4 yr old song now of which everyone is familiar with the tune.

This has nothing to do with democrats versus republicans. A pandemic is NOT a partisan issue. That people keep making it a partisan issue is exactly the problem the U.S. is having.

You guys need to pull your heads from the sand, (re)learn to unite in the face of a common threat, and whip this pandemic before it gets any worse.

Be the United States.

 

[jayem]

Conspiracy theory forum is that way. -->

Exactly. Captain Renault also put it well.

 

[ZNP]

Honestly, I’m not certain. But I’m sure she respects medical science and would have been much more receptive to the advice of qualified experts. I doubt she would have emphasized maintaining economic growth over limiting the spread of disease to the degree that Donald Trump has.

I’m just curious as to what others think.

If Hillary had been president do you think we might have been able to avoid judgement day?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Obviously there has been a disconnect between Trump's statements and the statements of his own health and medical advisors. And this has only sown confusion that can't be easily undone.

I guarantee that in a Clinton presidency, the messaging from all channels would have been in alignment and clear, even if/when changes had to be made.

I guarantee that in a Clinton presidency, they would have cracked open the Obama pandemic playbook that was left behind and been that much quicker on an appropriate response.

 

[ZNP]

Obviously there has been a disconnect between Trump's statements and the statements of his own health and medical advisors. And this has only sown confusion that can't be easily undone.

I guarantee that in a Clinton presidency, the messaging from all channels would have been in alignment and clear, even if/when changes had to be made.

I guarantee that in a Clinton presidency, they would have cracked open the Obama pandemic playbook that was left behind and been that much quicker on an appropriate response.

The Pandemic is from God. If there is calamity in the city God did it. That judgement was every bit as much on the Clinton's as on anyone else.

Amos 3:3 Do two walk together
unless they have agreed to do so? (there is no evidence that Clinton was walking with God)
4 Does a lion roar in the thicket
when it has no prey? (The world's economy has become prey to God)
Does it growl in its den
when it has caught nothing? (The banks have been caught. They claimed to be too big to fail, just like the Titanic claimed that even God couldn't sink it)
5 Does a bird swoop down to a trap on the ground
when no bait is there? (The trap has been laid. The government must proclaim a moratorium on evictions otherwise we'll have 40 million homeless)
Does a trap spring up from the ground
if it has not caught anything? (when you owe the bank $1 million you have a problem, if you owe the bank $100 billion the bank has a problem.)
6 When a trumpet sounds in a city,
do not the people tremble? (Take a look at the thread on economic collapse)
When disaster comes to a city,
has not the Lord caused it? (This pandemic is a total disaster to the city, maybe not so much to rural areas, but to cities it is a disaster).

Wake up, this is the Festival of Trumpets, it is the end of the age, prepare to meet your God.

 

[jayem]

If Hillary had been president do you think we might have been able to avoid judgement day?

Is it not possible that this was God's way of testing the world's political leadership? Hillary might not have done any better. But beyond any doubt, Donald Trump failed the test miserably.

 

[ZNP]

Is it not possible that this was God's way of testing the world's political leadership? Hillary might not have done any better. But beyond any doubt, Donald Trump failed the test miserably.

Yes, agreed. When the Lord returns will He find faith on the Earth? He said that this generation shall not pass away until all things are fulfilled, that statement was related to His judgment on the Nation of Israel and on the Roman government as well. The evil rulers that sanctioned His crucifixion will be judged at the end of this age.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Probably even Chelsea would have managed it better.

 

[MIDutch]

The Pandemic is from God. If there is calamity in the city God did it. That judgement was every bit as much on the Clinton's as on anyone else.

Amos 3:3 Do two walk together
unless they have agreed to do so? (there is no evidence that Clinton was walking with God)
4 Does a lion roar in the thicket
when it has no prey? (The world's economy has become prey to God)
Does it growl in its den
when it has caught nothing? (The banks have been caught. They claimed to be too big to fail, just like the Titanic claimed that even God couldn't sink it)
5 Does a bird swoop down to a trap on the ground
when no bait is there? (The trap has been laid. The government must proclaim a moratorium on evictions otherwise we'll have 40 million homeless)
Does a trap spring up from the ground
if it has not caught anything? (when you owe the bank $1 million you have a problem, if you owe the bank $100 billion the bank has a problem.)
6 When a trumpet sounds in a city,
do not the people tremble? (Take a look at the thread on economic collapse)
When disaster comes to a city,
has not the Lord caused it? (This pandemic is a total disaster to the city, maybe not so much to rural areas, but to cities it is a disaster).

Wake up, this is the Festival of Trumpets, it is the end of the age, prepare to meet your God.

Is this sarcasm?

I cant really tell.