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Okay so my wife and I were watching a sermon from a well respected Doctor and Protestant Pastor. I won't name him in case people call him a false teacher (I honestly don't think he's a false teacher, because he's well known in the Protestant community as being a well educated and proper teaching preacher, a majority of his preaching is rock solid. I just think he's wrong about this one particular interpretation of scripture.)
Anyway, during the sermon in question he talks about it being possible as a Christian to "love the wrong world" and to lose God the Father's love. He used 1 John 2:15 as "proof" of his interpretation of what John was saying here.
I have to say, I disagree with a majority of what he said in said sermon. He not only said that it was possible to fall out of God the Father's love by living in the World but it was also as if he was trying to claim that said person would lose their salvation if they did so. But, that can't have been what the Doctor meant because he's a well respected Doctor in the Protestant community and he preaches on Eternal Security and what I consider to be the basic tenants to the Protestant faith all the time.
I was actually kind of puzzled how he could have come to this conclusion especially when the entire rest of the Bible says that it's impossible to fall out of God's love no matter what we do or say because God IS love.
Don't forget there are MANY passages of scripture that show that God will never abandon his Children and those who seek him. God continues to work on us, sanctify us, and deliver us from sin each and every passing millisecond of our lives. Just because a Christian may love the world "today" doesn't mean that we won't love the world "tomorrow." because God continues to work on each and every one of us every single day. To claim that we lose God's love for living in the world and that he abandons us is like to claim that God abandons one of his children is IMO... unscirptural.
Nowhere in scripture does it say that God will abandon his children (Or those who aren't for that matter) for ANY reason. It is impossible to fall out of God's love (IMO) because God IS love. God loves all of humanity and John 3:16 is an example that proves it. It says "For God so loved the world" this includes the billions of people that live IN the world. He loves them just as equally as he loves his own children and he desires them to come to the truth so that he can be with them forever. I mean, Romans 8:31-39 is a statement by Paul that NOTHING can separate us from the love of God. NOTHING!
So IMO this interpretation of John's words cannot be what the Apostle had meant when he wrote 1 John 2:15-17. Same as John's apparently contradictory statement of "Nobody that is born of God sins." and then a few verses later he says "If you claim to have no sin the truth is not in you." that, cannot be what the apostle meant then either.
I asked a few of my friends what they thought and some of them brought up a good point. That the pastor in question was wrong with his interpretation of 1 John 2:15. They offered another interpretation from the well respected doctor that, I kind of agree with. They said that what John meant was that when we love the world WE don't love or show love towards God the Father. Not that he abandons us and no longer loves us.
What's your interpretation of what John meant? Did he mean we can fall out of God's love if we live in the world or did he mean something else? I'm curious on your thoughts.
Anyway, during the sermon in question he talks about it being possible as a Christian to "love the wrong world" and to lose God the Father's love. He used 1 John 2:15 as "proof" of his interpretation of what John was saying here.
I have to say, I disagree with a majority of what he said in said sermon. He not only said that it was possible to fall out of God the Father's love by living in the World but it was also as if he was trying to claim that said person would lose their salvation if they did so. But, that can't have been what the Doctor meant because he's a well respected Doctor in the Protestant community and he preaches on Eternal Security and what I consider to be the basic tenants to the Protestant faith all the time.
I was actually kind of puzzled how he could have come to this conclusion especially when the entire rest of the Bible says that it's impossible to fall out of God's love no matter what we do or say because God IS love.
Don't forget there are MANY passages of scripture that show that God will never abandon his Children and those who seek him. God continues to work on us, sanctify us, and deliver us from sin each and every passing millisecond of our lives. Just because a Christian may love the world "today" doesn't mean that we won't love the world "tomorrow." because God continues to work on each and every one of us every single day. To claim that we lose God's love for living in the world and that he abandons us is like to claim that God abandons one of his children is IMO... unscirptural.
Nowhere in scripture does it say that God will abandon his children (Or those who aren't for that matter) for ANY reason. It is impossible to fall out of God's love (IMO) because God IS love. God loves all of humanity and John 3:16 is an example that proves it. It says "For God so loved the world" this includes the billions of people that live IN the world. He loves them just as equally as he loves his own children and he desires them to come to the truth so that he can be with them forever. I mean, Romans 8:31-39 is a statement by Paul that NOTHING can separate us from the love of God. NOTHING!
So IMO this interpretation of John's words cannot be what the Apostle had meant when he wrote 1 John 2:15-17. Same as John's apparently contradictory statement of "Nobody that is born of God sins." and then a few verses later he says "If you claim to have no sin the truth is not in you." that, cannot be what the apostle meant then either.
I asked a few of my friends what they thought and some of them brought up a good point. That the pastor in question was wrong with his interpretation of 1 John 2:15. They offered another interpretation from the well respected doctor that, I kind of agree with. They said that what John meant was that when we love the world WE don't love or show love towards God the Father. Not that he abandons us and no longer loves us.
What's your interpretation of what John meant? Did he mean we can fall out of God's love if we live in the world or did he mean something else? I'm curious on your thoughts.
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