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How come humans have not evolved into a higher species?

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conclusion

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1 the end or close; final part.

2 the last main division of a discourse, usually containing a summing up of the points and a statement of opinion or decisions reached.

The exact word "opinion" is in the definition at the very link you have in your post.
 
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noun
1 the end or close; final part.

2 the last main division of a discourse, usually containing a summing up of the points and a statement of opinion or decisions reached.

The exact word "opinion" is in the definition at the very link you have in your post.
The exact word "opinion" is in the definition at the very link you have in your post.

As you see, they have two different definitions...

opinion
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noun
a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

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conclusion
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noun
Logic. a proposition concluded or inferred from the premises of an argument.


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Edit: I think I see the problem. You've confused categories. So an opinion can be unsupported or illogical, but it doesn't have to be.

A conclusion is an opinion that is supported by reason or evidence.

A bicycle is a vehicle. An automobile is a vehicle powered by a motor.
That does not mean a bicycle is an automobile.
 
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It didn't. As you see, Tibetans and some Pacific islanders have evolved in the past few thousand years, and we see more recent cases like the Milano mutation, and a mutated myostatin gene. Evolution is going on all around us, and is observable and measurable.



Your fellow YE creationist (Dr. Kurt Wise) presented many such in his paper Toward a Creationist Understanding of Transitional Forms. DNA analysis, showing the same family tree of living things as first discovered hundreds of years ago by Linnaeus.

There's a huge number of evolutionary predictions that have been confirmed, such as the demonstration that dinosaur heme is more like that of birds than like that of other reptiles.

The huge numbers of predicted transitional fossils discovered after the predictions is compelling, but even more compelling is the fact that we never see a transitional where evolutionary theory says it shouldn't be.

I am not YEC, just a person who believes God made it all. How he did it is the discussion.
 
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Edit: I think I see the problem. You've confused categories. So an opinion can be unsupported or illogical, but it doesn't have to be.

No, I am aware an opinion can be supported or not. Opinion can be based on observation, or extrapolation from observation.

What is logical is also subject to opinion.
 
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No, I am aware an opinion can be supported or not. Opinion can be based on observation, or extrapolation from observation.

What is logical is also subject to opinion.

there is such a thing as an educated opinion.

In Science, Theories are not just someone's opinion, they have been tested.
 
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I believe we were discussing opinion in philosophy, not theory in science.

I notice philosophers can't agree on even basic things, unlike science, so it's not surprising that philosophy has opinions, and science has conclusions based on evidence.
 
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I believe we were discussing opinion in philosophy, not theory in science.

Title of thread is,
How come humans have not evolved into a higher species?
 
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Citation please

The two things I want to talk about tonight, disagreement and the first principles of philosophy, are intimately connected. We can begin to see this by asking the question implied in the title of this talk, “Why do philosophers disagree?” That they disagree is clear enough. Some philosophers say there is a God, and some do not. Some say there is an objective right and wrong, and some do not.Some say that space and time are something real outside our minds, and some say the opposite. Probably everything said by someone called a philosopher has been contradicted by someone else who was also called a philosopher.
https://thomasaquinas.edu/sites/default/files/augros-lecture16.pdf
 
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How come humans have not evolved into a higher species?

"Higher" has no meaning in evolution. Are we "higher" than Neandertals, Denisovans, or H. erectus? These earlier humans were not technologically as innovative as anatomically modern humans. Does that make us "higher?"
 
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How come humans have not evolved into a higher species?



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Because we are already the highest type of creature in the world. There are attempts to merge man with machine though, and some might try to claim that this was a higher form of life. The next stage in the evolution of man if you will. Since that is not of God, the creator, that claim is a lie.
 
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Because we are already the highest type of creature in the world.

Recently, humans have evolved the means to live and reproduce at very high altitudes (Tibetans and the mutated EPAS gene), and to stay underwater for longer times ( Bajau people with larger spleens).

For reasons not clear, Cro-magnons evolved a more progressive adaptation of new technology than previous humans like Neandertals and Denesovans. That is perhaps the most notable evolutionary change.
 
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Recently, humans have evolved the means to live and reproduce at very high altitudes (Tibetans and the mutated EPAS gene), and to stay underwater for longer times ( Bajau people with larger spleens).
That makes them related to bananas? No. Of course, God gave us the ability to adapt. It would be crazy to say that creation came about because of that ability creatures were given and created with!

For reasons not clear, Cro-magnons evolved a more progressive adaptation of new technology than previous humans like Neandertals and Denesovans.
Post flood men.
That is perhaps the most notable evolutionary change.
Absurd.
 
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Recently, humans have evolved the means to live and reproduce at very high altitudes (Tibetans and the mutated EPAS gene), and to stay underwater for longer times ( Bajau people with larger spleens).

That makes them related to bananas?

It means you are entirely wrong about evolution. We have evolved, and continue to evolve. Genetics shows all living things on Earth have a common ancestor. That is all.

Of course, God gave us the ability to adapt.

Yes. Evolution is His plan, not ours.

It would be crazy to say that creation came about because of that ability creatures were given and created with!

Evolution is the ability of populations to adapt.

For reasons not clear, Cro-magnons evolved a more progressive adaptation of new technology than previous humans like Neandertals and Denesovans.

Post flood men.

No. Cro-magnons existed long before there was a flood. Indeed, they lived side by side with Neandertals in a number of cases, and at least once Neandertals adopted Cro-magnon technology.
 
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