Is it true?

[ViaCrucis]

Hello, I`m new here, I was just wondering, some years ago I saw a movie about jesus and he was making chairs and tables from wood, while his mother cooked him something to eat, the after the work he washed his hands for her, but the thing that caught me is that, if jesus really was as kind as possible as believers say, why would he make chairs to sit on, isn`t it kinder to walk around instead for people, chairs are kinda a modern society thing for lazy people ...

Not very historically accurate for one, as already mentioned people reclined to eat. Tables were low to the ground, and people reclined to eat.

Also, I'm not sure I understand the idea that chairs are unkind or for "lazy" people. Sitting/laying/reclining/etc isn't a modern innovation. It's kind of something that people have always done. How would it be unkind to provide seating for people?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

no, not exactly, but in our society also people leave their family to do something of interest, a kinder person would stay at home

Mary is only mentioned a couple times during Jesus' adult life and ministry, but she's definitely around even if she's not mentioned all the time. The fact that at the cross Jesus gave care for His mother to His disciple John is pretty solid evidence that He was concerned with her continued welfare.

And even in just a very mundane sense, it's very possible for an adult to both live out their vocation as well as care for their family. People have been doing that for millennia.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[muichimotsu]

Yes some scholars have considered Joseph was a mason. Not the secret club have you but like actually hewing stone for building.

Got a chuckle there, my dad is part of a "mason" like club, though I don't think it's the Freemasons, it's...I forget offhand

 

[ViaCrucis]

Got a chuckle there, my dad is part of a "mason" like club, though I don't think it's the Freemasons, it's...I forget offhand

Just to add to that particular side discussion on the matter, the Greek word that is used is tekton, a fairly generic word for a craftsman or builder. That Joseph, and Jesus as well, were specifically carpenters--working with wood--comes from tradition as much as it does Scripture.

It's also entirely possible that it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. A tekton can simply mean "builder", and chances are that working with wood, stone, and even metal could all be included to some degree in whatever Joseph's profession was.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[~Anastasia~]

no, not exactly, but in our society also people leave their family to do something of interest, a kinder person would stay at home

This is putting far too much contemporary interpretation and using it to draw a conclusion of what Jesus was like.

Essentially everyone worked except the very rich. But we should not imagine they all got ready in the morning and hopped on a donkey for a commute to a business away from home. People tended to work in and near their homes.

Jesus is agape-love. Perfect love. We can know that He always does what is BEST for any person. Whether that appears to be kind in our eyes depends. Sometimes the kindest thing in some situations is what we might call "tough love" and we might view it as unkind. But that's our interpretation. What we can know is that Jesus always did the loving thing.

Joseph apparently died some time after Jesus was 12 and before the start of His ministry. Because of this, Jesus took responsibility for the care of His mother. He continued in that responsibility until giving her into the care of St. John the beloved disciple at the Crucifixion. Remember the Scriptures say that to fail to care for one's own makes one worse than a pagan. Jesus would not have failed in this.

Be very careful using personal interpretation - especially framed by contemporary understanding - and using that to try to reason how Jesus must have been. Better to go to the source and understanding Christianity has always had, or else we risk creating a very distorted Jesus in our minds. Even many Christians fall into this error.

 

[Pulchra]

This is putting far too much contemporary interpretation and using it to draw a conclusion of what Jesus was like.

Essentially everyone worked except the very rich. But we should not imagine they all got ready in the morning and hopped on a donkey for a commute to a business away from home. People tended to work in and near their homes.

Jesus is agape-love. Perfect love. We can know that He always does what is BEST for any person. Whether that appears to be kind in our eyes depends. Sometimes the kindest thing in some situations is what we might call "tough love" and we might view it as unkind. But that's our interpretation. What we can know is that Jesus always did the loving thing.

Joseph apparently died some time after Jesus was 12 and before the start of His ministry. Because of this, Jesus took responsibility for the care of His mother. He continued in that responsibility until giving her into the care of St. John the beloved disciple at the Crucifixion. Remember the Scriptures say that to fail to care for one's own makes one worse than a pagan. Jesus would not have failed in this.

Be very careful using personal interpretation - especially framed by contemporary understanding - and using that to try to reason how Jesus must have been. Better to go to the source and understanding Christianity has always had, or else we risk creating a very distorted Jesus in our minds. Even many Christians fall into this error.

so you believe some people had superpowers like Jesus?

 

[brinny]

Hello, I`m new here, I was just wondering, some years ago I saw a movie about jesus and he was making chairs and tables from wood, while his mother cooked him something to eat, the after the work he washed his hands for her, but the thing that caught me is that, if jesus really was as kind as possible as believers say, why would he make chairs to sit on, isn`t it kinder to walk around instead for people, chairs are kinda a modern society thing for lazy people ...

Jesus was a carpenter, just as His father Joseph was.

By the way, chairs are a blessing, and very welcome for many, especially the "weary".

Welcome to CF, Apatosaur.