The A & P

[Charlie24]

Yes, I think I have heard that before. Try this on for size.

- Every knee will bow and every tongue acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord. Every knee.
- Where will this take place? In heaven and on earth and under the earth. (in the realm of the dead)
- No one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
- Only believers have the indwelling Spirit.

- If you declare “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. ​

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matt. 7:21

I suppose all of mankind will do the will of the Father?

 

[FineLinen]

I suppose all of mankind will do the will of the Father?

Correct Charlie! Do you notice that little "at" in Phil. 2? The word is actually IN/EN!

"That IN/EN the Name of Jesus EVERY knee shall bow & EVERY tongue confess You are Lord."

This Charlie is what at-one-ment means; being brought to see things from Father's viewpoint in union with His lovely Name.

That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow (ina en twi onomati Ihsou pan gonu kampsh). First aorist active subjunctive of kamptw, old verb, to bend, to bow, in purpose clause with ina. Not perfunctory genuflections whenever the name of Jesus is mentioned, but universal acknowledgment of the majesty and power of Jesus who carries his human name and nature to heaven. This universal homage to Jesus is seen in Romans 8:22 ; Ephesians 1:20-22 and in particular Revelation 5:13 . Under the earth (katacqoniwn). Homeric adjective for departed souls, subterranean, simply the dead. Here only in the N.T. -Robertson Word Pictures-

 

[Charlie24]

Correct Charlie! Do you notice that little "at" in Phil. 2? The word is actually IN/EN!

"That IN/EN the Name of Jesus EVERY knee shall bow & EVERY tongue confess You are Lord."

This Charlie is what at-one-ment means; being brought to see things from Father's viewpoint in union with His lovely Name.

That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow (ina en twi onomati Ihsou pan gonu kampsh). First aorist active subjunctive of kamptw, old verb, to bend, to bow, in purpose clause with ina. Not perfunctory genuflections whenever the name of Jesus is mentioned, but universal acknowledgment of the majesty and power of Jesus who carries his human name and nature to heaven. This universal homage to Jesus is seen in Romans 8:22 ; Ephesians 1:20-22 and in particular Revelation 5:13 . Under the earth (katacqoniwn). Homeric adjective for departed souls, subterranean, simply the dead. Here only in the N.T. -Robertson Word Pictures-

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matt. 7:13-14

 

[FineLinen]

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matt. 7:13-14

Yup! The few are the elect also described by the apostle Paul as the "especially/ malista".

But wait; there is more>>>

God is the Saviour of ALL mankind, especilly those who believe/ trust in Him.

Please note:

Malista is NOT only.

Only= monos =

Alone/ solitary.

 

[Saint Steven]

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matt. 7:21

I suppose all of mankind will do the will of the Father?

One day follows the next. "Many will say on that day..."

Can those who have never prophesied in his name and cast out demons and performed many miracles, even say, "Lord, Lord"?

Matthew 7:21-22
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’

 

[Charlie24]

Yup! The few are the elect also described by the apostle Paul as the "especially/ malista".

But wait; there is more>>>

God is the Saviour of ALL mankind, especilly those who believe/ trust in Him.

Please note:

Malista is NOT only.

Only= monos =

Alone/ solitary.

Yes, God is the Saviour of all men. But only the saved have their sins forgiven and enter into heaven. They are special.

 

[Saint Steven]

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matt. 7:13-14

What were you saying about tooth and nail? - lol

I had asked you earlier...
Do you believe that the elect were predestined by God? (post #59)

 

[FineLinen]

Yes, God is the Saviour of all men. But only the saved have their sins forgiven and enter into heaven. They are special.

Dear Charlie: the elect of His love & grace are indeed special. They are the forerunners of what God in the Restitution of all things accomplishes in the radical all of pas.

Note: Malista is not monos.

Our God is NOT a potential Saviour. Our God IS Saviour of the malista and the pas.

 

[FineLinen]

Dear Charlie: the elect of His love & grace are indeed special. They are the forerunners of what God in the Restitution of all things accomplishes in the radical all of pas.

Note: Malista is not monos.

Our God is NOT a potential Saviour. Our God IS Saviour of the malista and the pas.

Dear F.L.: This what a potential saviour does. He does not save drowning mankind, he sits on his perch.

 

[Charlie24]

What were saying about tooth and nail? - lol

I had asked you earlier...
Do you believe that the elect were predestined by God? (post #59)

I believe God called all men and all are free to accept or reject the call.

Those who accept, He has foreknown and predesignated

 

[Charlie24]

I believe God called all men and all are free to accept or reject the call.

Those who accept, He has foreknown and predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son.

Those who reject he has foreknown and predestinated to be confined in hell./QUOTE]

 

[FineLinen]

I believe God called all men and all are free to accept or reject the call.

Those who accept, He has foreknown and predesignated

Dear Charlie: perhaps you can tell us slow learners what our God means when He declares thru St. Paul" >>>

"...made subject to futility "not willingly"? ? ?

 

[Lazarus Short]

I believe God called all men and all are free to accept or reject the call.

Those who accept, He has foreknown and predesignated

Then you don't believe Jesus the Christ is the savior of All?

What about that lost sheep He left the 99 to find??

 

[Charlie24]

Dear Charlie: perhaps you can tell us slow learners what our God means when He declares thru St. Paul" >>>

"...made subject to futility "not willingly"? ? ?

Rom. 8:20 speaks of creation receiving a curse by the fall of Adam. "not willingly" refers creation being unwillingly effected by sin from the fall of Adam. "But by reason of Him who has subjected the same in hope" speaks of God as the One who passed sentence because of Adams fall, but at the same time gave us hope that Christ will rectify all things.

And your point.

 

[Charlie24]

Then you don't believe Jesus the Christ is the savior of All?

What about that lost sheep He left the 99 to find??

He is the Saviour of all men. How many men will reject that Saviour? This goes back to free will.

 

[Lazarus Short]

He is the Saviour of all men. How many men will reject that Saviour? This goes back to free will.

Free Will is a slippery subject. My will feels free, but knowing that God sees the end from the beginning - it makes me wonder. Anyway, I believe men's rejection is only temporary.

 

[FineLinen]

Rom. 8:20 speaks of creation receiving a curse by the fall of Adam. "not willingly" refers creation being unwillingly effected by sin from the fall of Adam. "But by reason of Him who has subjected the same in hope" speaks of God as the One who passed sentence because of Adams fall, but at the same time gave us hope that Christ will rectify all things.

And your point.

Dear Charlie: You posted that "all are free to accept or reject the call." Unfortunately, mankind is a slave to sin and not free to accept or reject His call! And, the A. & O. has made it so with the express purpose of radical deliverance of the all from the futility!

The God equation=

Adam 1 ="many made sinners.">>>>

Last Adam = "many made righteous" .

A perfect equation equal on both sides! ! !

 

[Charlie24]

Free Will is a slippery subject. My will feels free, but knowing that God sees the end from the beginning - it makes me wonder. Anyway, I believe men's rejection is only temporary.

That's not what the scripture teaches.

Jesus said, If you believe not that am He, you shall die in your sins.

What does it mean to die in your sins? What are the legal consequences of sin in Gods law.

 

[Charlie24]

Dear Charlie: You posted that "all are free to accept or reject the call." Unfortunately, mankind is a slave to sin and not free to accept or reject His call! And, the A. & O. has made it so with the express purpose of radical deliverance of the all from the futility!

The God equation=

Adam 1 ="many made sinners.">>>>

Last Adam = "many made righteous" .

A perfect equation equal on both sides! ! !

Are you telling me that when the Holy Spirit reaches in the heart of man and convicts him of sin he cannot accept of reject that call?

I am very disappointed in your theology FL. You should know better than this false doctrine.

 

[FineLinen]

Are you telling me that when the Holy Spirit reaches in the heart of man and convicts him of sin he cannot accept of reject that call?

Nope!

The call to being a follower of the Lamb comes in His time and His place. It is based solely within Himself and His power to draw all unto/into the Master in His time by His love & grace.

You did not choose Me...!