Does the recently confirmed existence of UfO's pose a threat to Christianity?

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Sept 2019 the U.S. Navy confirms existence of UFOs with hard evidence including visual sightings over a period of years -- and also tracking them on radar as well as engaging them in arial maneuver (dog fights) where they are not firing on anything just trying to follow/track it.

Does your view of Christianity view this as a threat to Christianity? a threat to evangelism in the context of a public being informed that UFO's are real and not merely swamp gas? Or will it increase the ability to evangelize the public in favor of Christianity in your view?

Many people who have been discussing this idea for a long time ... claim that publicly admitting to it would be a problem for Christianity.

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CNN Sept 2019..

May 2019 ABC News GoodMorningAm George Stephanopoulos, Chris Mellon interview with lots of vid
– 4:35 "how do you explain all this full disclosure yet no reaction??

--Fox news 00:00 Sep 19 starts with Navy official acknowledgement Sept 2019
00:35 this seems like a “change” in the way govt/navy is addressing the topic
1:25 so US Govt admitting … this is watershed moment.. but not getting public reaction? Why?

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ufo news 2019 Nov - Bing video

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How all this news - came about - in the first place.

3:15 len: Fox News Christofpher Mellon May 2019

00:25“we know UFOs exist
02:13 – History channel clip from unexplained.
03:00 operating in and around military installations
Read a bit about people who have encountered creatures we associate with UFOs. The points they have in common are that these beings smelled like sulfur, were evil or had evil intent, and some hated the name of Jesus leaving rapidly if that name was used.
 
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I find it very unlikely that beings still bound to the physical somehow were able to traverse the vast distances in this galaxy/universe without finding out how to not be bound to it any longer, for one thing, and for another this could have been leaked with a hidden agenda by some people who are more than likely wishing to deceive us, like much is these days, and then the way the news will "twist" a story also, to make it a "much more better story", etc...

But what if it's somehow true, or there is some truth to it...? Well God is much bigger than any creatures still bound to the physical for one thing, and He may have seeded or planted them as well, and they are or would be just players in and overall plan of His, if they were still bound to the physical, etc, and are not much to be concerned about even if some other physical beings or aliens in physical spaceships were somehow able to get here in the physical, etc, cause I believe in beings who were even around way, way long before them or then, that are way, way beyond the physical now, or perhaps always were, etc, and I trust they would have any and all of any kind of mere still yet only physical beings under they're tight control and overall plans, etc...

I think just even one angel would be more than a match for a thousand physical spaceships or physical "alien" beings, etc...

I'm not worried about it either way...

God Bless!
 
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Sept 2019 the U.S. Navy confirms existence of UFOs with hard evidence including visual sightings over a period of years -- and also tracking them on radar as well as engaging them in arial maneuver (dog fights) where they are not firing on anything just trying to follow/track it.

Does your view of Christianity view this as a threat to Christianity? a threat to evangelism in the context of a public being informed that UFO's are real and not merely swamp gas? Or will it increase the ability to evangelize the public in favor of Christianity in your view?

Many people who have been discussing this idea for a long time ... claim that publicly admitting to it would be a problem for Christianity.

================================================

CNN Sept 2019..

May 2019 ABC News GoodMorningAm George Stephanopoulos, Chris Mellon interview with lots of vid
– 4:35 "how do you explain all this full disclosure yet no reaction??

--Fox news 00:00 Sep 19 starts with Navy official acknowledgement Sept 2019
00:35 this seems like a “change” in the way govt/navy is addressing the topic
1:25 so US Govt admitting … this is watershed moment.. but not getting public reaction? Why?

================================

compilation -
ufo news 2019 Nov - Bing video

=====================================

How all this news - came about - in the first place.

3:15 len: Fox News Christofpher Mellon May 2019

00:25“we know UFOs exist
02:13 – History channel clip from unexplained.
03:00 operating in and around military installations
Not only would it not pose a threat (if this were indeed confirmed and not a hoax), it provides confirmation. We are not the only people in this world, and those other ones were not created for this world.
 
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If aliens ever do land on Earth, in plain view for all to see on television, then such an event would almost certainly cause some to lose their faith. However, as I have said before, the existence of intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe would do nothing at all to disprove the existence of God.
 
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A fair amount of Christians appreciate The Chronicles of Narnia. I would assume based on that, that these same Christians wouldn't take issue with other life forms, be they from space, here, other dimensions or 'realms', since the books posit just that scenario. Another set of books by Lewis which I believe actually addresses this issue is his Space Trilogy.
Sept 2019 the U.S. Navy confirms existence of UFOs with hard evidence including visual sightings over a period of years -- and also tracking them on radar as well as engaging them in arial maneuver (dog fights) where they are not firing on anything just trying to follow/track it.

Does your view of Christianity view this as a threat to Christianity? a threat to evangelism in the context of a public being informed that UFO's are real and not merely swamp gas? Or will it increase the ability to evangelize the public in favor of Christianity in your view?

Many people who have been discussing this idea for a long time ... claim that publicly admitting to it would be a problem for Christianity.

================================================

CNN Sept 2019..

May 2019 ABC News GoodMorningAm George Stephanopoulos, Chris Mellon interview with lots of vid
– 4:35 "how do you explain all this full disclosure yet no reaction??

--Fox news 00:00 Sep 19 starts with Navy official acknowledgement Sept 2019
00:35 this seems like a “change” in the way govt/navy is addressing the topic
1:25 so US Govt admitting … this is watershed moment.. but not getting public reaction? Why?

================================

compilation -
ufo news 2019 Nov - Bing video

=====================================

How all this news - came about - in the first place.

3:15 len: Fox News Christofpher Mellon May 2019

00:25“we know UFOs exist
02:13 – History channel clip from unexplained.
03:00 operating in and around military installations
 
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As the Bible says absolutely nothing about alien physical creatures, one way or the other, the existence or non-existence of alien life has zero effect on Cristian belief. But the Bible indeed speaks, in very plain terms, of existence of spiritual life forms that come to this earth from other places. It differentiates between them as angels and demons or devils, and it speaks of all of them generally as spirits. And the Bible is very clear about the fact that these spirits, (both good and evil) have the power to assume physical forms so as to be visible to human eyes.
 
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So then the more wide spread acceptance of it - the harder it becomes to evangelize the lost.
Yes, the more wide spread acceptance of any "untruth" the harder it becomes to spread the gospel.

However, to spread truth, that these are demonic entities masquerading as beings from other worlds is difficult due to 50 or 60 years of "men from mars" being the "go to" explanation of these supernatural events.
 
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There is a lot out there that we are oblivious to.
You may say "oblivious". I would term it as "ignorant" or "willfully ill informed".

We are not oblivious as it is obvious that we are aware. Just unwilling to accept it for decades. Like a lot of things that people don't want to accept and label those that do.. as "tinfoil hatters" and other derogatory terms.

The governments, again, prove their two faced hypocritical nature as they deny and deny and deny... then come out with the truth that they have known all along, when they can no longer excuse the obvious events.
 
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It's more likely than aliens. Even if they are out there, it is too far to come. And if aliens can discover antigravity, why not humans?
Here's a question... If mankind did get technology to travel light years to another planet and find other life.... would they use all the energy to hang around for 50 or 60 years and "watch"? Zipping in and out of site?

Or... barge in and give a big "hello"?

Ya, not buying it. This is Satan and his deception... Slowly slowly numbing our minds and beliefs from telling people that they are crazy.. to slowly let it sink in to acceptance of other life forms coming here.

A good example is that when the did the whole "war of the worlds" on the radio.. people panicked, even killing themselves in the hysteria...

Today.. look...even one poster here stated that they would go with them..

See how time and repetition turns peoples minds... We are easily lead down the garden path to our own demise.
 
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Some UFO's are swamp gas. Most are airplanes. Some, we don't know what they are, insufficient data.

Admitting what? That people have seen flying things they couldn't identify? Wow.

And will be for as long as people are imperfect observers
Respectfully, Jipsah, with everyone and their brother holding a camera and video recorder in their pockets... as cell phones... the number of UFO sightings and recordings has grown exponentially.

There is a site that investigates them and vets them as fake or unexplained... i

It is called "Third phase of moon" check it out... not swamp gas, not airplanes....
 
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Read a bit about people who have encountered creatures we associate with UFOs. The points they have in common are that these beings smelled like sulfur, were evil or had evil intent, and some hated the name of Jesus leaving rapidly if that name was used.
I have also heard that people that have had encounters, and rebuked them in the name of Jesus..... the "entities' left in a millisecond.
 
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I have a friend who told me he used to look at UFO books all the time. His dad, an officer in the air force, noticed him reading. He said, "you like those kinds of books, don't you?" To which he replied in the affirmative. Then his dad said, "those are secret military aircraft." To him, there was no mystery. .

the funny thing about "secret military aircraft" is that we don't dangle them out in public to get their pictures taken for days, weeks at a time ... We don't then insist that our own pilots start reporting the sightings etc. Rather we "keep them as secret as we can".

So if someone said "I heard from a friend of mine that went to a top secret location that he saw something in a hanger" fine.. that fits the "this is ours but we keep it top secret" narrative.

But the Navy does not then come out to the public affirm their existence along with radar images, pictures, gun camera footage and declare that sure enough we have them. And our own pilots would see them a "a step head" but not centuries ahead.
 
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I have also heard that people that have had encounters, and rebuked them in the name of Jesus..... the "entities' left in a millisecond.
Now that should tell you something.

But this just gets back to the OP question about evangelism. How does full acceptance of UFOs - the UFO narrative affect the ability to evangelize in a world where evolutionism cannot be questioned and UFOs can no longer be questioned?
 
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Some UFO's are swamp gas. Most are airplanes. Some, we don't know what they are, insufficient data.

Admitting what? That people have seen flying things they couldn't identify? Wow.

And will be for as long as people are imperfect observers

turns out - the Navy did not make an official statement in September saying that "swamp gas is a form of UFO". And swamp gas has never been clocked accelerating to 20 times the speed of sound.

Michio Kaku 3:49 burden of proof shifts to UFO denier. “Game changer” fox news post it

Michio Kaku says the burden of proof has shifted to the government to demonstrate UFOs don't exist

0:54 “What has changed what is different now? We are at a tipping point the burden of proof has changed” It is now on those who want to make the case that UFOs are not what we are seeing. (Sept 2019)
 
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That's kind of like confirming that water is wet and that fire is hot, innit? Any flying thing that you can't recognize is, by definition, an Unidentified Flying Object. .

So fine then -- the Navy is admitting to a "flying thing" that meneuvers in dog fight fashion with our jet fighters (and far outperforms them) and then accelerates to 20 times the speed of sound only to return back from over the horizon about 1 minute later.

(Which gets us back to Michio Kaku's statement about "burden of proof")

The question in the OP is now that those "flying things" are officially acknowledged (a change that they admit they are making from their prior policy) what is the impact on the ability to evangelize the public for those who insist this is a very advance form of swamp gas?
 
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Or a pulse jet. Even if antigravity devices are possible, applying the technology to an aircraft is another step again. It's still more likely than aliens. Maybe only just.............

acceleration in a linear fashion to supersonic speed - that a pulse jet could do (or to hypersonic speed that a drone could do) is nothing like the maneuvering characteristics that they observe and pulse jets emit sonic booms when they pass through various multiples of the sound barrier -- unlike this silent version... and they cannot accelerate from hover at zero to mach 20 or 28 in a matter of seconds. It is the "science" , the "physics" that is the problem in these observations. Hence "the announcement" and the question being asked in those videos about "why is the phone not ringing off the hook"?
 
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Sept 2019 the U.S. Navy confirms existence of UFOs with hard evidence including visual sightings over a period of years -- and also tracking them on radar as well as engaging them in arial maneuver (dog fights) where they are not firing on anything just trying to follow/track it.

Does your view of Christianity view this as a threat to Christianity?...

I think those are man made systems, not alien. But, I believe in the Bible and Bible speaks of angels and other spiritual beings. I think people who are not Christian may see them as alien or extraterrestrial, or extra-dimensional beings.
 
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If aliens ever do land on Earth, in plain view for all to see on television, then such an event would almost certainly cause some to lose their faith. However, as I have said before, the existence of intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe would do nothing at all to disprove the existence of God.

Might not disprove God - but would the story telling that comes with UFOs - destroy the Christian narrative in terms of trying to get an unbeliever - one who is not Christian - to accept the Gospel if he/she is starting from full acceptance of the UFO narrative as "legit"?
 
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