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What is the nature and timing of the Resurrection in the NT?
The Nature of the Resurrection | Glory (Religion) | Resurrection Of Jesus
The enemies of fulfilled eschatology make their biggest attacks in this very area - resurrection of the dead and the nature of it.
It doesn’t seem to bother the proponents of this view that the term “resurrection of the flesh” or “resurrection of the body” never appears in the bible. Nonetheless they make this a point of fellowship and attack us on this ground believing that this is our weakest point and most dangerous area.
We believe that this topic as well as any other issue regarding fulfilled eschatology can easily be defending from Scriptures.
Some time back on an internet forum there was a debate that was taking place between Preterist Dr. Kelly Birks and Amillienialist Gene Cook where it was agreed upon by both sides as to the topic which was how the Lord viewed the timing of his parousia. Little into the debate Mr. Cook took it upon himself to change the topic to the nature of the resurrection if somehow that would be how he would defend his view of the timing texts.
It was because Mr. Cook thought that this would be our weak point and his strong point that he diverted the issue. He made it sound as though it was necessary to talk nature regarding the resurrection to show how Jesus viewed the timing of his coming.
It is true that timing and nature are related and that how one views one of these reflects how one interprets the other. We aim to show in this article that the nature of the resurrection must be subjugated to the timing texts as we will give biblical support for this. We will also show that despite the opposition in their attempts to divert all discussion to this topic, it is not our weak point and is actually the very heart of what we believe to be the support of our position.
The question that we need to ask when looking at the resurrection of the dead and its nature is this.
Is there a biblical basis to interpret passages that speak of life from the dead or resurrection as something other than being raised physically from biological death?
We are fully aware that some passages could mean nothing else but a coming to life back from biological death such as the resurrection of our Lord. But what about the examples in the rest of Scripture?
There is one verse that is overlooked by those on both sides of this issue regarding how the disciples would have viewed the phrase “resurrection of the dead” or “rise from the dead.”
The passage is in Mark 9:9-10. After the Mount of Transfiguration Jesus comes down and says this:
"And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead"
And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
Now what was in the minds of the disciples that would make them even wonder what rise from the dead could mean? Would anyone today have a problem understanding the phrase if someone told them they would rise from the dead?
We don’t know what they were thinking but we do know they must have had understood the phrase as meaning more than one thing else why ask the question. Could they be thinking of a passage in the Old Testament that clearly taught something else? Are there any Old Testament examples that speak of a resurrection that the meaning is quite otherwise?
This is important if we are to let Scripture interpret scripture as well as harmonize the timing texts on both the second coming and the related resurrection of the dead.
The answer is an obvious yes and one such example is Ezekiel 37.
Here is a description of bones rising up and flesh and sinew coming upon them as their spirit is put into them. But what does this speak of? Its first application is Israel coming back to the land after the Babylonian captivity. The New Testament application of this varies depending upon one’s eschatological view. Some would say this secondary application is an actual physical resurrection such as will be experienced by God’s people in the so called rapture. Others see the application of this as spiritual which is describing the regeneration of the sinner via the Holy Spirit under the preaching of the gospel.
And some even say it is Israel coming back into the land in 1948.
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I actually have a thread on the "Valley of Bones"
WHAT ABOUT EZEKIEL 37 "VALLEY OF BONES"
Ezekiel 37:
10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army.
11 Then He said to me, "Son of 'adam! these bones are the whole House of Israel. They indeed say, 'Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!'
Luke 2:34
And Simon blesses them and said toward Mariam His mother,
"behold! this-One is set/lying into a Fall and Resurrection/standing-up<386> of many in the Israel, and into a Sign being spoken against"
Resurrection and Rapture
Revelation 11:
9 And are observing out of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations their bodies three and half days and their bodies not they suffer to be placed into a tomb.
11 And after the three days and a half, a breath of life out of the God entered in them and they stand upon their feet and great fear falls upon the ones observing them.
12 And they hear a great Voice out of the Heaven saying to them "ascend ye here!" And they ascended into the heaven in the cloud
15 And the seventh Messenger trumpets and became great voices/sounds in the heaven saying "became the Kingdom of the world of the Lord of us and of the Christ of Him and He shall be reigning into the ages of the Ages.
Revelation 20:5
The rest of the dead not live until should be being finished<5055> the thousand years,
This is the first resurrection<386>
The Nature of the Resurrection | Glory (Religion) | Resurrection Of Jesus
The enemies of fulfilled eschatology make their biggest attacks in this very area - resurrection of the dead and the nature of it.
It doesn’t seem to bother the proponents of this view that the term “resurrection of the flesh” or “resurrection of the body” never appears in the bible. Nonetheless they make this a point of fellowship and attack us on this ground believing that this is our weakest point and most dangerous area.
We believe that this topic as well as any other issue regarding fulfilled eschatology can easily be defending from Scriptures.
Some time back on an internet forum there was a debate that was taking place between Preterist Dr. Kelly Birks and Amillienialist Gene Cook where it was agreed upon by both sides as to the topic which was how the Lord viewed the timing of his parousia. Little into the debate Mr. Cook took it upon himself to change the topic to the nature of the resurrection if somehow that would be how he would defend his view of the timing texts.
It was because Mr. Cook thought that this would be our weak point and his strong point that he diverted the issue. He made it sound as though it was necessary to talk nature regarding the resurrection to show how Jesus viewed the timing of his coming.
It is true that timing and nature are related and that how one views one of these reflects how one interprets the other. We aim to show in this article that the nature of the resurrection must be subjugated to the timing texts as we will give biblical support for this. We will also show that despite the opposition in their attempts to divert all discussion to this topic, it is not our weak point and is actually the very heart of what we believe to be the support of our position.
The question that we need to ask when looking at the resurrection of the dead and its nature is this.
Is there a biblical basis to interpret passages that speak of life from the dead or resurrection as something other than being raised physically from biological death?
We are fully aware that some passages could mean nothing else but a coming to life back from biological death such as the resurrection of our Lord. But what about the examples in the rest of Scripture?
There is one verse that is overlooked by those on both sides of this issue regarding how the disciples would have viewed the phrase “resurrection of the dead” or “rise from the dead.”
The passage is in Mark 9:9-10. After the Mount of Transfiguration Jesus comes down and says this:
"And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead"
And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
Now what was in the minds of the disciples that would make them even wonder what rise from the dead could mean? Would anyone today have a problem understanding the phrase if someone told them they would rise from the dead?
We don’t know what they were thinking but we do know they must have had understood the phrase as meaning more than one thing else why ask the question. Could they be thinking of a passage in the Old Testament that clearly taught something else? Are there any Old Testament examples that speak of a resurrection that the meaning is quite otherwise?
This is important if we are to let Scripture interpret scripture as well as harmonize the timing texts on both the second coming and the related resurrection of the dead.
The answer is an obvious yes and one such example is Ezekiel 37.
Here is a description of bones rising up and flesh and sinew coming upon them as their spirit is put into them. But what does this speak of? Its first application is Israel coming back to the land after the Babylonian captivity. The New Testament application of this varies depending upon one’s eschatological view. Some would say this secondary application is an actual physical resurrection such as will be experienced by God’s people in the so called rapture. Others see the application of this as spiritual which is describing the regeneration of the sinner via the Holy Spirit under the preaching of the gospel.
And some even say it is Israel coming back into the land in 1948.
=============================
I actually have a thread on the "Valley of Bones"
WHAT ABOUT EZEKIEL 37 "VALLEY OF BONES"
Ezekiel 37:
10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army.
11 Then He said to me, "Son of 'adam! these bones are the whole House of Israel. They indeed say, 'Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!'
Luke 2:34
And Simon blesses them and said toward Mariam His mother,
"behold! this-One is set/lying into a Fall and Resurrection/standing-up<386> of many in the Israel, and into a Sign being spoken against"
Resurrection and Rapture
Revelation 11:
9 And are observing out of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations their bodies three and half days and their bodies not they suffer to be placed into a tomb.
11 And after the three days and a half, a breath of life out of the God entered in them and they stand upon their feet and great fear falls upon the ones observing them.
12 And they hear a great Voice out of the Heaven saying to them "ascend ye here!" And they ascended into the heaven in the cloud
15 And the seventh Messenger trumpets and became great voices/sounds in the heaven saying "became the Kingdom of the world of the Lord of us and of the Christ of Him and He shall be reigning into the ages of the Ages.
Revelation 20:5
The rest of the dead not live until should be being finished<5055> the thousand years,
This is the first resurrection<386>
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