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Any Christian who knows His bible knows that Jesus was the creator of Satan and therefore certainly not His brother, Jesus is our brother only through His humanity. Satan has no genetic link to us whatsoever and is not our brother anymore than any other angel. All the saved, angels or human, are the children of God by virtue of being created by Him---we are adopted into His family and are thus brothers---but are not genetically so. It is your unmentioned believe that we are actually, physically the actual children of God by His relations with a heavenly mother---all a lie--you hide the truth of your believes from the unknowledgeable and feed them lies. It is not even milk you offer but soured milk.
satan is a spirit being, and spirit being were not created by Jesus. His Father, Elohim created the spirit beings, and Jesus created the natural beings and all things natural in the universe. Thus Jesus and lucifer were both spirit children of God. One went on to be God, and one went on to be satan, the opposite of God.

We read that in Genesis 1 and 2. Elohim is the only God spoken of in Genesis 1. Jesus/The Lord God is not introduced until Genesis 2. God/Elohim in Genesis 1 creates all things in spirit form, and then Jesus/Yahweh creates everything naturally in the Genesis 2. We have gone over this. This is our belief and we have a strong position and feel confident in our belief.

Remember that spirit cannot be created, it has existed from all time and is uncreated, so that is why we know that Jesus has existed for all time, the same as God the Father. In the beginning was the word.... we believe that, and we know that he was a spirit, until his incarnation, into his mortal body. How long was it from the beginning to his incarnation?
 
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Btw, figured you would Not answer and risk exposing the truth of the Mormon belief that faith in Jesus dying on the cross was not enough for salvation according to mormon teachings.
I was glad I was able to educate people on the truths of the Bible so perhaps they will not fall into Satan's trap.
 
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That is because your steak is still the milk of the gospel.

No---our steak is genuine meat---yours is still veggie meat. You call it meat---it is false, imitation and worthless for salvation. It is Not the meat of the Gospel, Lies do not save. God is not the author of confusion, half-truths, and downright lies. You can call it meat all you want. When people do allow the Holy Spirit to open their eyes---they see right through it and leave. You're only hop is to keep them deluded as long as possible, until they have shut out the true Holy Spirit and are numb to Him, then you slowly begin to feed them the imitation stuff, the real garbage. If they wake, they throw it down the garbage disposal. How anyone can believe that God was a human who worked His way into Godhood is beyond me---you have to be in a catatonic state. God the Father has no genealogy. He is the ONE AND ONLY GOD OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. You teach a false god. You worship a false god. No weak, anemic grandkid will save anyone.
 
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No, you dodged the question.
Mormonism is a trap of Satan.
I tell people to keep the commandments as stated in the Bible so they do not fall into Satan's trap:

(New Testament | 1 John 3:22 - 24)

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

(Old Testament | Leviticus 22:31)

31 Therefore shall ye keep my commandments, and do them: I am the LORD.

(New Testament | Matthew 19:16 - 17)

16 ¶ And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

(Old Testament | Proverbs 4:4)

4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.

Only a few her but many more in the Bible.
 
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I tell people to keep the commandments as stated in the Bible so they do not fall into Satan's trap:

LOL!! What baloney! This is just a cover up. The 10 commandments are just the tip of the iceberg here as to what people need to do to be saved in Mormonism---there are countless other rules to follow, being sealed in marriage by a Mormon Priest, baptism of the dead, believing that Joseph Smith is the one that says who gets to be in the presence of God, believing that we existed before birth as actual spirit children of God and one of his many heavenly wives----no---even according to Mormonism, the 10 commandments won't save you. The believes of JS will. And his believes are a trap by Satan.
 
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LOL!! What baloney! This is just a cover up. The 10 commandments are just the tip of the iceberg here as to what people need to do to be saved in Mormonism---there are countless other rules to follow, being sealed in marriage by a Mormon Priest, baptism of the dead, believing that Joseph Smith is the one that says who gets to be in the presence of God, believing that we existed before birth as actual spirit children of God and one of his many heavenly wives----no---even according to Mormonism, the 10 commandments won't save you. The believes of JS will. And his believes are a trap by Satan.
As I have pointed out, for those who are passed the age of accountability, it is necessary to keep the commandments to have eternal life:

(New Testament | Luke 10:25 - 28)

25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

No matter what anyone says it will not change what Jesus said. Arguing, pouting, twisting, not even Satan can change it. Although he is fooling some people into believing they don't need to keep the commandments he can't fool everyone. Those who reject Christ's word reject His gospel.
 
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As I have pointed out, for those who are passed the age of accountability, it is necessary to keep the commandments to have eternal life:

(New Testament | Luke 10:25 - 28)

25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

No matter what anyone says it will not change what Jesus said. Arguing, pouting, twisting, not even Satan can change it. Although he is fooling some people into believing they don't need to keep the commandments he can't fool everyone. Those who reject Christ's word reject His gospel.

See post 287
 
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Mormon411: The 101 Mormon Commandments

The 101 Mormon Commandments


I'm always stating (sarcastically) that Mormonism has 101 (or maybe more like 1001) commandments that must be obeyed to get into heaven. I decided that I would sit down and see if I can't actually come up with 101 different demands and expectations that Mormonism so kindly provides for it's members. This does not include beliefs, but only "to do" or "not to do". So without further adu, here goes:

1. Pay a full tithing
2. Do your home teaching or visiting teaching
3. Go to church every sunday
4. Fulfill your callings
5. Read the scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon
6. Pray morning, noon, and night; personal and family
7a. Boys, serve a mission
7b. Girls, only date and marry returned missionaries
8. No dating until 16 years old
9. Do baptisms for the dead
10. Get your own testimony
11. Share the gospel with everyone
12. No sex before marriage
13. Get married in the temple
14. Sustain the leaders
15. Aaronic priesthood for the young men
16. Repent for anything you have done wrong
17. Take the sacrament each week
18. Leave your little factory alone
19. Be an example
20. Do geneology and family history
21. Do temple work for your dead relatives
22. Keep a journal
23. Have as many kids as you possibly can
24. No smoking
25. No drinking alcohol
26. No swearing
27. No hot drinks (with the exception of hot chocolate)
28. No tea (even if it isn't hot)
29. No caffeine (even though it isn't in the WoW)
30. Obey the laws of the land
31. Follow the prophet
32. Watch 10 hours of General Conference twice a year
33. Always be worthy so the spirit will guide you
34. Follow the spirit
35. Never turn down a calling
36. Melchizedek priesthood for men
37. Keep your thoughts clean
38. Dress modestly
39. Get your own endowments
40. Wear garments day and night
41a. Girls, no double earrings
41b. Boys, no earrings at all
42. No tattoos
43. Go to BYU
44. Don't ask a general authority if he has seen god
45. Don't question anything
46. Unconditional obedience
47. No loud laughter
48. No evil speaking of the lords annointed (even if they deserve it)
49. Never reveal your "new name"
50. Attend all your meetings
51. Have family home evening (FHE)
52. Read only church approved material
53. Don't watch "R" rated movies
54. inappropriate content in any form is not allowed
55. Don't associate with people who are against the church
56. Don't steal
57. Don't kill (unless commanded otherwise by god)
58. Have the missionaries over for dinner
59. Go to early morning seminary
60. If you're a college student, attend institute
61. Covenant to give everything to the church, if they ask
62. Clean your local ward meeting house
63. Mark your scriptures
64. Never leave your garments on the floor
65. "Know" it's true; believing isn't good enough
66. Be perfect
67. No necking/petting with your boyfriend/girlfriend
68. Your body is a temple; treat it as such
69. Have a current temple recommend
70. Interviews with the bishop
71. Interviews with the stake president
72. PPIs (personal priesthood interviews)
73. Be honest
74. Women are to be stay-at-home mothers
75. Give/receive blessings
76. No oral sex, even with your spouse
77. Don't be gay
78. Share your testimony on fast sunday
79. Fast on fast sunday
80. Donate to several church funds
81. Volunteer at D.I. or the bishop's store house
82. Put names on the "prayer list" in the temple
83. Wear your CTR ring
84. Memorize the 13 Articles of Faith
85. Boys, become an Eagle Scout
86. Endure to the end
87. Get baptized when you're 8 years old
88. Receive the holy ghost
89. Get your patriarchal blessing
90. Only listen to uplifting music
91. Join your ward choir
92. Subscribe to the Ensign and other church magazines
93. Buy and read books written by Apostles
94. Seek for personal inspiration
95. Be humble
96. No talking about what happens in the temple
97. Write to a missionary
98. Give talks in sacrament meeting
99. Youth, attend YM and YW activities
100. Attend ward parties
101. Do all of the above with a pure heart and real intent

Wow! I didn't think I would actually come up with 101 different expectations. No wonder I felt overwhelmed!

Can anyone think of more?
 
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Mormon411: The 101 Mormon Commandments

The 101 Mormon Commandments


I'm always stating (sarcastically) that Mormonism has 101 (or maybe more like 1001) commandments that must be obeyed to get into heaven. I decided that I would sit down and see if I can't actually come up with 101 different demands and expectations that Mormonism so kindly provides for it's members. This does not include beliefs, but only "to do" or "not to do". So without further adu, here goes:

1. Pay a full tithing
2. Do your home teaching or visiting teaching
3. Go to church every sunday
4. Fulfill your callings
5. Read the scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon
6. Pray morning, noon, and night; personal and family
7a. Boys, serve a mission
7b. Girls, only date and marry returned missionaries
8. No dating until 16 years old
9. Do baptisms for the dead
10. Get your own testimony
11. Share the gospel with everyone
12. No sex before marriage
13. Get married in the temple
14. Sustain the leaders
15. Aaronic priesthood for the young men
16. Repent for anything you have done wrong
17. Take the sacrament each week
18. Leave your little factory alone
19. Be an example
20. Do geneology and family history
21. Do temple work for your dead relatives
22. Keep a journal
23. Have as many kids as you possibly can
24. No smoking
25. No drinking alcohol
26. No swearing
27. No hot drinks (with the exception of hot chocolate)
28. No tea (even if it isn't hot)
29. No caffeine (even though it isn't in the WoW)
30. Obey the laws of the land
31. Follow the prophet
32. Watch 10 hours of General Conference twice a year
33. Always be worthy so the spirit will guide you
34. Follow the spirit
35. Never turn down a calling
36. Melchizedek priesthood for men
37. Keep your thoughts clean
38. Dress modestly
39. Get your own endowments
40. Wear garments day and night
41a. Girls, no double earrings
41b. Boys, no earrings at all
42. No tattoos
43. Go to BYU
44. Don't ask a general authority if he has seen god
45. Don't question anything
46. Unconditional obedience
47. No loud laughter
48. No evil speaking of the lords annointed (even if they deserve it)
49. Never reveal your "new name"
50. Attend all your meetings
51. Have family home evening (FHE)
52. Read only church approved material
53. Don't watch "R" rated movies
54. inappropriate content in any form is not allowed
55. Don't associate with people who are against the church
56. Don't steal
57. Don't kill (unless commanded otherwise by god)
58. Have the missionaries over for dinner
59. Go to early morning seminary
60. If you're a college student, attend institute
61. Covenant to give everything to the church, if they ask
62. Clean your local ward meeting house
63. Mark your scriptures
64. Never leave your garments on the floor
65. "Know" it's true; believing isn't good enough
66. Be perfect
67. No necking/petting with your boyfriend/girlfriend
68. Your body is a temple; treat it as such
69. Have a current temple recommend
70. Interviews with the bishop
71. Interviews with the stake president
72. PPIs (personal priesthood interviews)
73. Be honest
74. Women are to be stay-at-home mothers
75. Give/receive blessings
76. No oral sex, even with your spouse
77. Don't be gay
78. Share your testimony on fast sunday
79. Fast on fast sunday
80. Donate to several church funds
81. Volunteer at D.I. or the bishop's store house
82. Put names on the "prayer list" in the temple
83. Wear your CTR ring
84. Memorize the 13 Articles of Faith
85. Boys, become an Eagle Scout
86. Endure to the end
87. Get baptized when you're 8 years old
88. Receive the holy ghost
89. Get your patriarchal blessing
90. Only listen to uplifting music
91. Join your ward choir
92. Subscribe to the Ensign and other church magazines
93. Buy and read books written by Apostles
94. Seek for personal inspiration
95. Be humble
96. No talking about what happens in the temple
97. Write to a missionary
98. Give talks in sacrament meeting
99. Youth, attend YM and YW activities
100. Attend ward parties
101. Do all of the above with a pure heart and real intent

Wow! I didn't think I would actually come up with 101 different expectations. No wonder I felt overwhelmed!

Can anyone think of more?
Expectations are not commandments. That does not change what Jesus said by one jot or tittle.

(New Testament | Matthew 5:18 - 19)

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 
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What do you mean? What "teaching" are you referring?


No I'm not "doing good" to become some kind of ruler in heaven. Neither does the bible speak of a little "fiefdom" for Christians. Sorry but , you really have no clue what the scripture teaches.
The Holy Spirit must reveal the truth of the scriptures.
I was just using your kind of language when you refer to our beliefs, doesn't feel very good, right?
Just what are you going to reign over?
 
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Mormon411: The 101 Mormon Commandments

The 101 Mormon Commandments


I'm always stating (sarcastically) that Mormonism has 101 (or maybe more like 1001) commandments that must be obeyed to get into heaven. I decided that I would sit down and see if I can't actually come up with 101 different demands and expectations that Mormonism so kindly provides for it's members. This does not include beliefs, but only "to do" or "not to do". So without further adu, here goes:

1. Pay a full tithing
2. Do your home teaching or visiting teaching
3. Go to church every sunday
4. Fulfill your callings
5. Read the scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon
6. Pray morning, noon, and night; personal and family
7a. Boys, serve a mission
7b. Girls, only date and marry returned missionaries
8. No dating until 16 years old
9. Do baptisms for the dead
10. Get your own testimony
11. Share the gospel with everyone
12. No sex before marriage
13. Get married in the temple
14. Sustain the leaders
15. Aaronic priesthood for the young men
16. Repent for anything you have done wrong
17. Take the sacrament each week
18. Leave your little factory alone
19. Be an example
20. Do geneology and family history
21. Do temple work for your dead relatives
22. Keep a journal
23. Have as many kids as you possibly can
24. No smoking
25. No drinking alcohol
26. No swearing
27. No hot drinks (with the exception of hot chocolate)
28. No tea (even if it isn't hot)
29. No caffeine (even though it isn't in the WoW)
30. Obey the laws of the land
31. Follow the prophet
32. Watch 10 hours of General Conference twice a year
33. Always be worthy so the spirit will guide you
34. Follow the spirit
35. Never turn down a calling
36. Melchizedek priesthood for men
37. Keep your thoughts clean
38. Dress modestly
39. Get your own endowments
40. Wear garments day and night
41a. Girls, no double earrings
41b. Boys, no earrings at all
42. No tattoos
43. Go to BYU
44. Don't ask a general authority if he has seen god
45. Don't question anything
46. Unconditional obedience
47. No loud laughter
48. No evil speaking of the lords annointed (even if they deserve it)
49. Never reveal your "new name"
50. Attend all your meetings
51. Have family home evening (FHE)
52. Read only church approved material
53. Don't watch "R" rated movies
54. inappropriate content in any form is not allowed
55. Don't associate with people who are against the church
56. Don't steal
57. Don't kill (unless commanded otherwise by god)
58. Have the missionaries over for dinner
59. Go to early morning seminary
60. If you're a college student, attend institute
61. Covenant to give everything to the church, if they ask
62. Clean your local ward meeting house
63. Mark your scriptures
64. Never leave your garments on the floor
65. "Know" it's true; believing isn't good enough
66. Be perfect
67. No necking/petting with your boyfriend/girlfriend
68. Your body is a temple; treat it as such
69. Have a current temple recommend
70. Interviews with the bishop
71. Interviews with the stake president
72. PPIs (personal priesthood interviews)
73. Be honest
74. Women are to be stay-at-home mothers
75. Give/receive blessings
76. No oral sex, even with your spouse
77. Don't be gay
78. Share your testimony on fast sunday
79. Fast on fast sunday
80. Donate to several church funds
81. Volunteer at D.I. or the bishop's store house
82. Put names on the "prayer list" in the temple
83. Wear your CTR ring
84. Memorize the 13 Articles of Faith
85. Boys, become an Eagle Scout
86. Endure to the end
87. Get baptized when you're 8 years old
88. Receive the holy ghost
89. Get your patriarchal blessing
90. Only listen to uplifting music
91. Join your ward choir
92. Subscribe to the Ensign and other church magazines
93. Buy and read books written by Apostles
94. Seek for personal inspiration
95. Be humble
96. No talking about what happens in the temple
97. Write to a missionary
98. Give talks in sacrament meeting
99. Youth, attend YM and YW activities
100. Attend ward parties
101. Do all of the above with a pure heart and real intent

Wow! I didn't think I would actually come up with 101 different expectations. No wonder I felt overwhelmed!

Can anyone think of more?
And can you think of a better person who lives this lifestyle to present to the Lord Jesus Christ at the judgement day? I don't think so, this person is well grounded in their Christian religion.

Give a list of what is required of a new person in Christ from your church?

BTW, gay people can go to the temple. Even straight people can go to the temple.
 
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As I have pointed out, for those who are passed the age of accountability, it is necessary to keep the commandments to have eternal life:

(New Testament | Luke 10:25 - 28)

25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

No matter what anyone says it will not change what Jesus said. Arguing, pouting, twisting, not even Satan can change it. Although he is fooling some people into believing they don't need to keep the commandments he can't fool everyone. Those who reject Christ's word reject His gospel.
Completely dishonest, it is Mormonism that twists, ignores,dodges, misrepresents Christian scriptures & continues to post false the JS teachings while refusing to answer direct questions.
 
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The motivation & utilization is quite different obviously, as has been pointed out over and over.
All counterfeits copy God's teachings but their agenda is the opposite.
Btw, Mormonism shows it has no understanding of scripture, and no understanding of what Apostle Paul taught as per your summation of it. The interpretation is always based upon Joseph Smith.
I disagree with you on understanding scripture because we read all scripture in the bible. When you read all the scripture, especially on how to be saved, it is different than your 2 or 3 verses from the teachings of Paul. So if there is anyone deficient in understanding the scriptures it is you.

You never engage in a discussion to defend your religion, you just rag about JS. I believe the reason you do not engage is because the whole bible is your enemy, and if you can't just concentrate on your 3 or 4 scriptures that you have memorized, you are lost and confused. If I am wrong, then engage. I am not a monster and can be very generous in a discussion. I just feel like you cannot discuss the bible because you do not know the bible. There is no other explanation for not defending your positions.
 
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Everyone at our church gets the same teaching , it is not changed to suit anyone new to Christianity.
No information is hidden from anyone.
The mysteries of the Trinity is hidden. You don't even understand the hidden mysteries of the Trinity. That's why they are called mysteries.
 
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Mormon411: The 101 Mormon Commandments

The 101 Mormon Commandments


I'm always stating (sarcastically) that Mormonism has 101 (or maybe more like 1001) commandments that must be obeyed to get into heaven. I decided that I would sit down and see if I can't actually come up with 101 different demands and expectations that Mormonism so kindly provides for it's members. This does not include beliefs, but only "to do" or "not to do". So without further adu, here goes:

1. Pay a full tithing
2. Do your home teaching or visiting teaching
3. Go to church every sunday
4. Fulfill your callings
5. Read the scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon
6. Pray morning, noon, and night; personal and family
7a. Boys, serve a mission
7b. Girls, only date and marry returned missionaries
8. No dating until 16 years old
9. Do baptisms for the dead
10. Get your own testimony
11. Share the gospel with everyone
12. No sex before marriage
13. Get married in the temple
14. Sustain the leaders
15. Aaronic priesthood for the young men
16. Repent for anything you have done wrong
17. Take the sacrament each week
18. Leave your little factory alone
19. Be an example
20. Do geneology and family history
21. Do temple work for your dead relatives
22. Keep a journal
23. Have as many kids as you possibly can
24. No smoking
25. No drinking alcohol
26. No swearing
27. No hot drinks (with the exception of hot chocolate)
28. No tea (even if it isn't hot)
29. No caffeine (even though it isn't in the WoW)
30. Obey the laws of the land
31. Follow the prophet
32. Watch 10 hours of General Conference twice a year
33. Always be worthy so the spirit will guide you
34. Follow the spirit
35. Never turn down a calling
36. Melchizedek priesthood for men
37. Keep your thoughts clean
38. Dress modestly
39. Get your own endowments
40. Wear garments day and night
41a. Girls, no double earrings
41b. Boys, no earrings at all
42. No tattoos
43. Go to BYU
44. Don't ask a general authority if he has seen god
45. Don't question anything
46. Unconditional obedience
47. No loud laughter
48. No evil speaking of the lords annointed (even if they deserve it)
49. Never reveal your "new name"
50. Attend all your meetings
51. Have family home evening (FHE)
52. Read only church approved material
53. Don't watch "R" rated movies
54. inappropriate content in any form is not allowed
55. Don't associate with people who are against the church
56. Don't steal
57. Don't kill (unless commanded otherwise by god)
58. Have the missionaries over for dinner
59. Go to early morning seminary
60. If you're a college student, attend institute
61. Covenant to give everything to the church, if they ask
62. Clean your local ward meeting house
63. Mark your scriptures
64. Never leave your garments on the floor
65. "Know" it's true; believing isn't good enough
66. Be perfect
67. No necking/petting with your boyfriend/girlfriend
68. Your body is a temple; treat it as such
69. Have a current temple recommend
70. Interviews with the bishop
71. Interviews with the stake president
72. PPIs (personal priesthood interviews)
73. Be honest
74. Women are to be stay-at-home mothers
75. Give/receive blessings
76. No oral sex, even with your spouse
77. Don't be gay
78. Share your testimony on fast sunday
79. Fast on fast sunday
80. Donate to several church funds
81. Volunteer at D.I. or the bishop's store house
82. Put names on the "prayer list" in the temple
83. Wear your CTR ring
84. Memorize the 13 Articles of Faith
85. Boys, become an Eagle Scout
86. Endure to the end
87. Get baptized when you're 8 years old
88. Receive the holy ghost
89. Get your patriarchal blessing
90. Only listen to uplifting music
91. Join your ward choir
92. Subscribe to the Ensign and other church magazines
93. Buy and read books written by Apostles
94. Seek for personal inspiration
95. Be humble
96. No talking about what happens in the temple
97. Write to a missionary
98. Give talks in sacrament meeting
99. Youth, attend YM and YW activities
100. Attend ward parties
101. Do all of the above with a pure heart and real intent

Wow! I didn't think I would actually come up with 101 different expectations. No wonder I felt overwhelmed!

Can anyone think of more?


After you were refuted in a discussion pretend you won and brag to other LDS using your afterthoughts rather than what really happened.
 
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