Error of Christanity...

[Jen35]

I think today there is a big problem with christianity and I'm more leaning on the fact that scriptures have been misinterpreted and people don't know thier roles in the bible. It's one thing to read the word and interpret a scripture in the bible and claim it to be so when in all honesty it means something else and it's another thing to decieve ourselves and everyone else. And to me it seems that it seems to be because of a lacking of spiritual knowledge or whatever..I don't mean worldly wisdom or knowledge but spiritual truth and wisdom receive from the holy spirit which we receive when we are born again. And that's seems to sum up the Christian error to me...

 

[grandvizier1006]

Could you be more specific?

 

[Jen35]

Could you be more specific?

I mean I see a lot of scriptures interpeted here and most of what I read seems confusing and what makes me more puzzled is that those who intepret scriptures act like they really believe that and that it really means what they are believing. I think that's a big error and I think it's dangerous to believe something when it's not actually true. Because that's us decieving ourselves and everyone who reads those things I mean unless God and the holy spirit really reveals something to your heart scriptures shouldn't be guess. Because that's like adding to God's word and taking away from it and the Bible says we are not to do that...

 

[redleghunter]

I mean I see a lot of scriptures interpeted here and most of what I read seems confusing and what makes me more puzzled is that those who intepret scriptures act like they really believe that and that it really means what they are believing. I think that's a big error and I think it's dangerous to believe something when it's not actually true. Because that's us decieving ourselves and everyone who reads those things I mean unless God and the holy spirit really reveals something to your heart scriptures shouldn't be guess. Because that's like adding to God's word and taking away from it and the Bible says we are not to do that...

Do you have an example?

 

[grandvizier1006]

I mean I see a lot of scriptures interpeted here and most of what I read seems confusing and what makes me more puzzled is that those who intepret scriptures act like they really believe that and that it really means what they are believing. I think that's a big error and I think it's dangerous to believe something when it's not actually true. Because that's us decieving ourselves and everyone who reads those things I mean unless God and the holy spirit really reveals something to your heart scriptures shouldn't be guess. Because that's like adding to God's word and taking away from it and the Bible says we are not to do that...

I disagree. People aren’t trying to add to Scripture; they’re just interpreting it. That’s how denominations start—disagreements on certain doctrines and practices. What specific Bible passages are you seeing people interpret “incorrectly”?

 

[thecolorsblend]

I think today there is a big problem with christianity and I'm more leaning on the fact that scriptures have been misinterpreted and people don't know thier roles in the bible. It's one thing to read the word and interpret a scripture in the bible and claim it to be so when in all honesty it means something else and it's another thing to decieve ourselves and everyone else. And to me it seems that it seems to be because of a lacking of spiritual knowledge or whatever..I don't mean worldly wisdom or knowledge but spiritual truth and wisdom receive from the holy spirit which we receive when we are born again. And that's seems to sum up the Christian error to me...

It's almost like there should be some kind of authority which infallibly guides the faithful in their study of Sacred Scripture or something...

 

[Bob Crowley]

It's almost like there should be some kind of authority which infallibly guides the faithful in their study of Sacred Scripture or something...

That would be a brand new development wouldn't it?

 

[Jen35]

Do you have an example?

Yes christianforums.com jk lol..no seriously I'm sure if you look around here you can see what I mean especially in the end times forum. You know people come here and read that stuff and next thing you know that person is probably scratching on walls in the pysch ward because stuff like that causes deception and fear in people...and among other things probably...what happen when you find out in the end what you interpreted was incorrect, see what I mean? We decieve ourselves and everyone who grow in belief of those things..if I know I can't understand a scripture i will leave it alone or ask Jesus or God or something..

 

[Tigger45]

Do you have an example?

^Ditto^

 

[Jen35]

It's almost like there should be some kind of authority which infallibly guides the faithful in their study of Sacred Scripture or something...

Or maybe just actually receive the holy spirit and listen to it and not speak from your our own mouths but the spirit who came from an authority and who is in authority under the power of God..and speaks through us and guide us into all truth on such things... because the holy spirit is the only one who can reveal something that came in a spiritual and divine manner..just like water is to glass and peanut butter is to jelly, spirit is to spirit and spirit only when we become one with the spirit.. ok

 

[eleos1954]

Or maybe just actually receive the holy spirit and listen to it and not speak from your our own mouths but the spirit who came from an authority and who is in authority under the power of God..and speaks through us and guide us into all truth on such things... because the holy spirit is the only one who can reveal something that came in a spiritual and divine manner..just like water is to glass and peanut butter is to jelly, spirit is to spirit and spirit only when we become one with the spirit.. ok

Everyone who believes has their own personal relationship with the Lord ... and He knows each person's heart.

He meets each of us where we are and all of us are not in the same place ... spiritually and/or in regard to the knowledge of His word.

and scripture is taught and/or discussed, but when it come right down to it ... each of us are responsible for our relationship with the Lord and for what we know and what we don't know ... and only God knows what that is within each of us.

Romans 14:12

So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

especially in the end times forum.

In Acts chapter 1 it is indicated that we were given the Holy Spirit to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth, in the same passage it is indicated that the times that the Father set in His power are not for us. So the Holy Spirit cannot assist or rather, will not assist with figuring out how it all ends.

Anything end times related is a result of confusion.

 

[grandvizier1006]

Yes christianforums.com jk lol..no seriously I'm sure if you look around here you can see what I mean especially in the end times forum. You know people come here and read that stuff and next thing you know that person is probably scratching on walls in the pysch ward because stuff like that causes deception and fear in people...and among other things probably...what happen when you find out in the end what you interpreted was incorrect, see what I mean? We decieve ourselves and everyone who grow in belief of those things..if I know I can't understand a scripture i will leave it alone or ask Jesus or God or something..

Then stay out of the end-times section. I think a number of people on CF who post there might be mentally ill, or just really bored, but that’s to expected in a site full of people—there’s bound to be some crazies.

As for the Holy Spirit, I’m not sure He does what you’re saying He does. He doesn’t answer how you interpret a difficult Bible passage. He does many things, but Biblical interpretation and hermeneutics is done intellectually. Read commentaries on those sections, see what people said—try to find as many different viewpoints as possible, and then if you feel comfortable make a decision. Or, if the issue is something that isn’t that important, then don’t. Pray about whatever it is, but take your own biases into account and those of others.

I’m not an expert on the Holy Spirit, though. You’d have to consult other people about that.

 

[ewq1938]

Because that's like adding to God's word and taking away from it and the Bible says we are not to do that...

That's only written concerning the book of Revelation and the punishments are only the ones found in the same book.

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[JackRT]

Part of leaning on the Holy Spirit is on us doing our homework. We are two to three thousand years removed from the people of the Bible and the culture and traditions in which they lived. I do not think that most modern Christians realize just how different their lives and understandings were from ours today. We need to educate ourselves in the complete context of the times if we hope to really understand their writings.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

It's almost like there should be some kind of authority which infallibly guides the faithful in their study of Sacred Scripture or something...

Are referring to the infallibility of the POPE?

 

[Ken Rank]

I think that's a big error and I think it's dangerous to believe something when it's not actually true.

in the same passage it is indicated that the times that the Father set in His power are not for us.
Anything end times related is a result of confusion

Amen Michael... I was about to ask Jen, "What is truth? Do you believe in a pre-trib rapture, mid, end? Or do you believe in an end time second exodus? I am willing to bet, Jen, you believe in a pre-trib rapture and I am confident I can show you why that isn't scriptural. But if we don't agree on that, does it matter? It isn't a salvation issue. "

 

[grandvizier1006]

Are referring to the infallibility of the POPE?

I don’t think this is the right section to start a debate on this topic.

 

[redleghunter]

It's almost like there should be some kind of authority which infallibly guides the faithful in their study of Sacred Scripture or something...

How much of the Bible have they infallibly interpreted?

 

[redleghunter]

Yes christianforums.com jk lol..no seriously I'm sure if you look around here you can see what I mean especially in the end times forum. You know people come here and read that stuff and next thing you know that person is probably scratching on walls in the pysch ward because stuff like that causes deception and fear in people...and among other things probably...what happen when you find out in the end what you interpreted was incorrect, see what I mean? We decieve ourselves and everyone who grow in belief of those things..if I know I can't understand a scripture i will leave it alone or ask Jesus or God or something..

It’s about prophecy? Deal with certainties. Jesus will come again. That’s a certainty. What did Jesus tell His disciples when they asked about the future?

Acts 1: NASB

6So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” 7He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority;8but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”