The Restitution Of All Things A.K.A. Universalism

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The Council has already happened. It doesn't matter what our individual opinions are about the matter. The Canons and Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils are Infallible.
Sure wish a smiley was an option here.

Universalism has already been condemned and defeated for more than 1,400 years.
Study more and you will find you still have much to learn. Yes, in the early church, after his death, Origin was condemned, no doubt about that. But much later he was exonerated by 'the church'...according to the book I read from a well accepted modern day theologian from the 'first orthodox' church'. He confirms your opinion, and then he said "But because Origin didn't know that what he taught was heresy", the church forgave 'their' "judgment" against him to still give credit to ALL the good stuff they had to attribute to him. That's what happens when someone who's reputation won't die forces the present leadership to 'make right', what the corrupt leadership never should have 'done wrong' to begin with. Seriously I couldn't even make up an excuse as poorly as orthodoxy did to absolve Origin of his heretical 'sin of ignorance'!!!!! And yet this author said that's what the church did. :doh:

As for UR/UNI being condemned/defeated, are you serious? I went from never hearing of it in 'the church' the early 70's and 80's to hearing it more and more now. I went to the last session of a pastor's conference with our pastor 15 years ago and at that meeting they opened it up to a question and try to answer session. The first question was; "What are we going to do with this Bishop Carlton Pearson issue?" Now there's actually a movie about him called "Come Sunday". You prove yourself ill informed with your position that UR is dead. You prove yourself ill informed with your position that UR is dead. Indeed it isn't dead, it is actually being healed from the sickness of 1400 years of orthodoxy poisoning IMO.

everyone is now scrambling to hide how the ORTHODOX church of the Great Apostasy tried to martyr all Christians judged heretics by burning them alive at the stake, and then try to burn all their works. And guess who told them to do that? Please don't say Jesus of Nazareth. Yes study your Catechumen, but remember this; 'HE WHO ONLY KNOW HIS POSITION DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.'
 
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Dear Hillsage: I have every hope Jude will spend some time with us on this wee link. Perhaps he can advance from being taught the principles of Christianity at an elementary level, to grasping a measure of the great mysteries of the Living One. Perhaps?
Yes, and I also had every hope that brother Steve would stay and learn, when you didn't. :| He is making me very proud of his 'learning time' here....now. :) As for this hope of yours, I'm afraid it is my turn to 'not share'. 'Prophetic insight', or 'pathetic discernment'? Time will tell. :cool:
 
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Yes, and I also had every hope that brother Steve would stay and learn, when you didn't. :| He is making me very proud of his 'learning time' here....now. :) As for this hope of yours, I'm afraid it is my turn to 'not share'. 'Prophetic insight', or 'pathetic discernment'? Time will tell. :cool:

Dear Hillsage: F.L. is an old man who is learning to trust the God who raises the dead, even when hope seems hopeless! Yes, never never limit the God of Glory old fella.

I am with you regarding pathetic discernment. The Road into Him is by way of breaking, and out of breaking, the contriter and being ground to powder. What a glorious Road it is as He is making the all new!

Dear brother Steve: I am in the process of adding the last digit to PI. With every digit from the decimal point they keep cascading along. He grasped me for Himself over 1/2 century ago, and like PI, His ways are past finding out, every digit of Him pours into more and more and more! I like Him very much!

Pi to 1,000,000 places

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“Trust him. And when you have done that, you are living the life of grace. No matter what happens to you in the course of that trusting - no matter how many waverings you may have, no matter how many suspicions that you have bought a poke with no pig in it, no matter how much heaviness and sadness your lapses, vices, indispositions, and bratty whining may cause you - you believe simply that Somebody Else, by his death and resurrection, has made it all right, and you just say thank you and shut up. The whole slop-closet full of mildewed performances (which is all you have to offer) is simply your death; it is Jesus who is your life. If he refused to condemn you because your works were rotten, he certainly isn't going to flunk you because your faith isn't so hot. You can fail utterly, therefore, and still live the life of grace. You can fold up spiritually, morally, or intellectually and still be safe. Because at the very worst, all you can be is dead - and for him who is the Resurrection and the Life, that just makes you his cup of tea.” - Robert Farrar Capon-

 
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That's the great thing about Christianity, all the major doctrines and heresies have already been hashed through and worked out in centuries past.

The Ecumenical Councils have already happened so there isn't anything left to debate or special new teachings or revelations about Universalism to learn because it has already been condemned and anyone who believes it or promotes it is Anathematized.

It makes things a lot easier.



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That's the great thing about Christianity, all the major doctrines and heresies have already been hashed through and worked out in centuries past.

The Ecumenical Councils have already happened so there isn't anything left to debate or special new teachings or revelations about Universalism to learn because it has already been condemned and anyone who believes it or promotes it is Anathematized.

It makes things a lot easier.
I'm a Protestant, so I was pretty much anathematized along time ago.

Oh well.

At least I believe my Bible.
 
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That's the great thing about Christianity, all the major doctrines and heresies have already been hashed through and worked out in centuries past.

The Ecumenical Councils have already happened so there isn't anything left to debate or special new teachings or revelations about Universalism to learn because it has already been condemned and anyone who believes it or promotes it is Anathematized.

It makes things a lot easier.
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Origen's Theology Generally Accepted.
That his opinions were not obnoxious is proved by the fact that most of his friends and followers were placed in charge of the most important churches. Says De Pressense: "The Eastern church of the Third Century canceled, in fact, the sentence passed upon Origen under the influence of the hierarchical party. At Alexandria itself his disciples maintained the pre-eminence, and at the death of Demetrius, Heraclas, who had been the most intimate friend and trusted disciple of Origen, was raised to the Episcopal dignity by the free choice of the elders. Heraclas died A.D. 249 and was succeeded by another disciple of Origen, Dionysius of Alexandria. He was an assiduous disciple of Origen, and with his death the halcyon days of the school of Alexandria were now over. Dionysius was the last of its great masters." It is to be deplored that none of the writings of Dionysius are known to exist.

Theophylact, Bishop of Cæsarea, expressed the most ardent friendship for Origen, and offered him a refuge in Cæsarea, and a position as teacher. Firmilian, Bishop of Cæsarea in Cappadocia, received Origen during Maximin's persecution, and was always a fast friend. The majority of the Palestinian bishops were friendly. Jerome mentions Trypho as a disciple of Origen. He was author of several commentaries on the Old Testament. Hippolytus is spoken of as "a disciple of Origen and Dionysius of Alexandria, 'the Origen of the West'" attracted to Origen "by all the affinities of heart and mind."

His Universalism Never Condemned.
The state of opinion on the subject of universal salvation is shown by the fact that though Ignatius, Irenænus, Hippolytus and others wrote against the prevalent heresies of their times, Universalism is never named among them. Some of the alleged errors of Origen were condemned, but his doctrine of universal salvation, never. Methodius, who wrote A.D. 300; Pamphilus and Eusebius, A.D. 310; Eustathius, A.D. 380; Epiphanius, A.D. 376 and 394; Theophilus, A.D. 400-404, and Jerome, A.D. 400; all give lists of Origen's errors, but none name his Universalism among them. Besides, some of those who condemned his errors were Universalists, at the school of Antioch. And many who were opponents of Origenism were mentioned by Origen's enemies with honor notwithstanding they were Universalists, as Clement of Alexandria, and Gregory of Nyssa.

Pamphilus and Eusebius, A.D. 307-310, jointly wrote an Apology for Origen that contained declarations from the ancient fathers endorsing his views of the Restitution. This work, had it survived, would undoubtedly be an invaluable repository of evidence to show the general prevalence of his views on the part of those whose writings have not been preserved. All Christians must lament with Lardner the loss of a work that would have told us so much of the great Alexandrian. It seems to have been the fashion with the ancient Latin theologians to burn the books they could not refute.

Farrar names the eminent ancients who mention Origen with greatest honor and respect. Some, like Augustine, do not accept his views, but all utter eulogistic words, many adopt his sentiments, and Eusebius added a sixth book to the production of Pamphilus, in consequence of the detractions against Origen. While he had his opponents and defamers, the best and the most of his contemporaries and immediate successors either accepted his doctrines or eulogized his goodness and greatness.

Origen bitterly lamented the misrepresentation of his views even during his lifetime. How much more might he have said could he have foreseen what would be said of him after his death.

Pamphilus, who was martyred A.D. 294, and Eusebius, in their lost Apology for Origen, which is mentioned by at least two writers who had seen it, gave many testimonies of fathers preceding Origen, favoring Universalism,5 and Domitian, Bishop of Ancyra, complains that those who condemn the restorationism of Origen "anathematize all those saints who preceded and followed him," implying the general prevalence of Universalism before and after the days of Origen.
 
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Dear brother Steve: I am in the process of adding the last digit to PI. With every digit from the decimal point they keep cascading along. He grasped me for Himself over 1/2 century ago, and like PI, His ways are past finding out, every digit of Him pours into more and more and more! I like Him very much!
I'm glad that I am an artist instead of a mathematician.
A circle, it seems, is very easy to draw completely, but impossible to compute completely.

Also glad I am a writer instead of a mathematician.
Pie are NOT square, pie are round. Cake are square.
 
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Origen's Theology Generally Accepted.
That his opinions were not obnoxious is proved by the fact that most of his friends and followers were placed in charge of the most important churches. Says De Pressense: "The Eastern church of the Third Century canceled, in fact, the sentence passed upon Origen under the influence of the hierarchical party. At Alexandria itself his disciples maintained the pre-eminence, and at the death of Demetrius, Heraclas, who had been the most intimate friend and trusted disciple of Origen, was raised to the Episcopal dignity by the free choice of the elders. Heraclas died A.D. 249 and was succeeded by another disciple of Origen, Dionysius of Alexandria. He was an assiduous disciple of Origen, and with his death the halcyon days of the school of Alexandria were now over. Dionysius was the last of its great masters." It is to be deplored that none of the writings of Dionysius are known to exist.

Theophylact, Bishop of Cæsarea, expressed the most ardent friendship for Origen, and offered him a refuge in Cæsarea, and a position as teacher. Firmilian, Bishop of Cæsarea in Cappadocia, received Origen during Maximin's persecution, and was always a fast friend. The majority of the Palestinian bishops were friendly. Jerome mentions Trypho as a disciple of Origen. He was author of several commentaries on the Old Testament. Hippolytus is spoken of as "a disciple of Origen and Dionysius of Alexandria, 'the Origen of the West'" attracted to Origen "by all the affinities of heart and mind."

His Universalism Never Condemned.
The state of opinion on the subject of universal salvation is shown by the fact that though Ignatius, Irenænus, Hippolytus and others wrote against the prevalent heresies of their times, Universalism is never named among them. Some of the alleged errors of Origen were condemned, but his doctrine of universal salvation, never. Methodius, who wrote A.D. 300; Pamphilus and Eusebius, A.D. 310; Eustathius, A.D. 380; Epiphanius, A.D. 376 and 394; Theophilus, A.D. 400-404, and Jerome, A.D. 400; all give lists of Origen's errors, but none name his Universalism among them. Besides, some of those who condemned his errors were Universalists, at the school of Antioch. And many who were opponents of Origenism were mentioned by Origen's enemies with honor notwithstanding they were Universalists, as Clement of Alexandria, and Gregory of Nyssa.

Pamphilus and Eusebius, A.D. 307-310, jointly wrote an Apology for Origen that contained declarations from the ancient fathers endorsing his views of the Restitution. This work, had it survived, would undoubtedly be an invaluable repository of evidence to show the general prevalence of his views on the part of those whose writings have not been preserved. All Christians must lament with Lardner the loss of a work that would have told us so much of the great Alexandrian. It seems to have been the fashion with the ancient Latin theologians to burn the books they could not refute.

Farrar names the eminent ancients who mention Origen with greatest honor and respect. Some, like Augustine, do not accept his views, but all utter eulogistic words, many adopt his sentiments, and Eusebius added a sixth book to the production of Pamphilus, in consequence of the detractions against Origen. While he had his opponents and defamers, the best and the most of his contemporaries and immediate successors either accepted his doctrines or eulogized his goodness and greatness.

Origen bitterly lamented the misrepresentation of his views even during his lifetime. How much more might he have said could he have foreseen what would be said of him after his death.

Pamphilus, who was martyred A.D. 294, and Eusebius, in their lost Apology for Origen, which is mentioned by at least two writers who had seen it, gave many testimonies of fathers preceding Origen, favoring Universalism,5 and Domitian, Bishop of Ancyra, complains that those who condemn the restorationism of Origen "anathematize all those saints who preceded and followed him," implying the general prevalence of Universalism before and after the days of Origen.


CHURCH FATHERS: Second Council of Constantinople (A.D. 553)



• The Anathemas of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen

1
Whoever says or thinks that human souls pre-existed, i.e., that they had previously been spirits and holy powers, but that, satiated with the vision of God, they had turned to evil, and in this way the divine love in them had died out (ἀπψυγείσας) and they had therefore become souls (ψυχάς) and had been condemned to punishment in bodies, shall be anathema.

2
If anyone says or thinks that the soul of the Lord pre-existed and was united with God the Word before the Incarnation and Conception of the Virgin, let him be anathema.

3
If anyone says or thinks that the body of our Lord Jesus Christ was first formed in the womb of the holy Virgin and that afterwards there was united with it God the Word and the pre-existing soul, let him be anathema.

4
If anyone says or thinks that the Word of God has become like to all heavenly orders, so that for the cherubim he was a cherub, for the seraphim a seraph: in short, like all the superior powers, let him be anathema.

5
If anyone says or thinks that, at the resurrection, human bodies will rise spherical in form and unlike our present form, let him be anathema.

6
If anyone says that the heaven, the sun, the moon, the stars, and the waters that are above heavens, have souls, and are reasonable beings, let him be anathema.

7
If anyone says or thinks that Christ the Lord in a future time will be crucified for demons as he was for men, let him be anathema.

8
If anyone says or thinks that the power of God is limited, and that he created as much as he was able to compass, let him be anathema.

9.
If anyone says or thinks that the punishment of demons and of impious men is only temporary, and will one day have an end, and that a restoration (ἀποκατάστασις) will take place of demons and of impious men, Let Him Be Anathama.

Anathema to Origen and to that Adamantius, who set forth these opinions together with his Nefarious and Execrable And Wicked Doctrine and to whomsoever there is who thinks thus, or defends these opinions, or in any way hereafter at any time shall presume to protect them.



CHURCH FATHERS: Second Council of Constantinople (A.D. 553)


The Church, The Holy Spirit and The Bishops already Destroyed This Nefarious, Execrable And Wicked Doctrine 1,400 years ago at the 5th Ecumenical Council in 553 A.D.

It's Finished.



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“Trust him. And when you have done that, you are living the life of grace. No matter what happens to you in the course of that trusting - no matter how many waverings you may have, no matter how many suspicions that you have bought a poke with no pig in it, no matter how much heaviness and sadness your lapses, vices, indispositions, and bratty whining may cause you - you believe simply that Somebody Else, by his death and resurrection, has made it all right, and you just say thank you and shut up. The whole slop-closet full of mildewed performances (which is all you have to offer) is simply your death; it is Jesus who is your life. If he refused to condemn you because your works were rotten, he certainly isn't going to flunk you because your faith isn't so hot. You can fail utterly, therefore, and still live the life of grace. You can fold up spiritually, morally, or intellectually and still be safe. Because at the very worst, all you can be is dead - and for him who is the Resurrection and the Life, that just makes you his cup of tea.” - Robert Farrar Capon-
 
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CHURCH FATHERS: Second Council of Constantinople (A.D. 553)



• The Anathemas of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen

1
Whoever says or thinks that human souls pre-existed, i.e., that they had previously been spirits and holy powers, but that, satiated with the vision of God, they had turned to evil, and in this way the divine love in them had died out (ἀπψυγείσας) and they had therefore become souls (ψυχάς) and had been condemned to punishment in bodies, shall be anathema.

2
If anyone says or thinks that the soul of the Lord pre-existed and was united with God the Word before the Incarnation and Conception of the Virgin, let him be anathema.

3
If anyone says or thinks that the body of our Lord Jesus Christ was first formed in the womb of the holy Virgin and that afterwards there was united with it God the Word and the pre-existing soul, let him be anathema.

4
If anyone says or thinks that the Word of God has become like to all heavenly orders, so that for the cherubim he was a cherub, for the seraphim a seraph: in short, like all the superior powers, let him be anathema.

5
If anyone says or thinks that, at the resurrection, human bodies will rise spherical in form and unlike our present form, let him be anathema.

6
If anyone says that the heaven, the sun, the moon, the stars, and the waters that are above heavens, have souls, and are reasonable beings, let him be anathema.

7
If anyone says or thinks that Christ the Lord in a future time will be crucified for demons as he was for men, let him be anathema.

8
If anyone says or thinks that the power of God is limited, and that he created as much as he was able to compass, let him be anathema.

9.
If anyone says or thinks that the punishment of demons and of impious men is only temporary, and will one day have an end, and that a restoration (ἀποκατάστασις) will take place of demons and of impious men, Let Him Be Anathama.

Anathema to Origen and to that Adamantius, who set forth these opinions together with his Nefarious and Execrable And Wicked Doctrine and to whomsoever there is who thinks thus, or defends these opinions, or in any way hereafter at any time shall presume to protect them.



CHURCH FATHERS: Second Council of Constantinople (A.D. 553)


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The Deterioration of Christian Thought.

The great transition from the Christianity of the Apostles to the pseudo-Christianity of the patriarchs and emperors--the transformation of Christianity to Churchianity--may be said to have begun with Constantine, at the beginning of the Fourth Century. Its relations to the temporal power experienced an entire change. Heathenism surrendered to it. As the stones of the heathen temples were rebuilt into Christian churches, so the Pagan principles held by the masses modified and corrupted the religion of Christ; while the worldliness of secular interests derived from the union of church and state, exerted a debasing influence, and the Christianity of the Catacombs and of Origen became the church of the popes, of the Inquisition, and of the Middle Ages.

"The writers of the Fourth Century generally contradict those of the Second,
who were in part witnesses, or reported credible evidence and plausible traditions, whereas those later fathers were only critics, and most of them very indifferent and biased ones. For they often proceed from systems, historical and doctrinal, which strongly impair their qualifications for being judges." There seems an entire change in the church after the Nicene Council. "The Anti-Nicene age was the World against the Church; the Post-Nicene age is the history of the World in the Church. As an antagonist the World was powerless; as an ally it became dangerous and its influence disastrous."1

"From the time of Constantine," says Schaff, "church discipline declines; the whole Roman world having become nominally Christian, and the host of hypocritical professors multiplying beyond all control." Perhaps the deterioration of Christian doctrine and life may be dated from the edict of Milan (A.D. 313), when "unhappily, the church also entered on an altogether new career--that of patronage and state protection. That which it was about to gain in material power it would lose in moral force and independence."

1 Hipp. and his Age.
The Church, The Holy Spirit and The Bishops already Destroyed This Nefarious, Execrable And Wicked Doctrine 1,400 years ago at the 5th Ecumenical Council in 553 A.D.

It's Finished.
The only thing Finished concerning Christian Universalism was the suffering of Christ on the cross. A sacrifice he made for ALL. And as the above proves the great apostasy converted true Christianity into churchianity before your Council in 553 A.D.

And your "Anathemas of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen" quote above simply proves again, that the apostate church was no longer the pure bride of Christ for it had crawled into the whorish bed of world politics adding to the blood shed by Christ, the blood of Christian martyrs who were still truly being led of the Holy Spirit.
 
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CHURCH FATHERS: Second Council of Constantinople (A.D. 553)



• The Anathemas of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen

1
Whoever says or thinks that human souls pre-existed, i.e., that they had previously been spirits and holy powers, but that, satiated with the vision of God, they had turned to evil, and in this way the divine love in them had died out (ἀπψυγείσας) and they had therefore become souls (ψυχάς) and had been condemned to punishment in bodies, shall be anathema.

2
If anyone says or thinks that the soul of the Lord pre-existed and was united with God the Word before the Incarnation and Conception of the Virgin, let him be anathema.

3
If anyone says or thinks that the body of our Lord Jesus Christ was first formed in the womb of the holy Virgin and that afterwards there was united with it God the Word and the pre-existing soul, let him be anathema.

4
If anyone says or thinks that the Word of God has become like to all heavenly orders, so that for the cherubim he was a cherub, for the seraphim a seraph: in short, like all the superior powers, let him be anathema.

5
If anyone says or thinks that, at the resurrection, human bodies will rise spherical in form and unlike our present form, let him be anathema.

6
If anyone says that the heaven, the sun, the moon, the stars, and the waters that are above heavens, have souls, and are reasonable beings, let him be anathema.

7
If anyone says or thinks that Christ the Lord in a future time will be crucified for demons as he was for men, let him be anathema.

8
If anyone says or thinks that the power of God is limited, and that he created as much as he was able to compass, let him be anathema.

9.
If anyone says or thinks that the punishment of demons and of impious men is only temporary, and will one day have an end, and that a restoration (ἀποκατάστασις) will take place of demons and of impious men, Let Him Be Anathama.

Anathema to Origen and to that Adamantius, who set forth these opinions together with his Nefarious and Execrable And Wicked Doctrine and to whomsoever there is who thinks thus, or defends these opinions, or in any way hereafter at any time shall presume to protect them.



CHURCH FATHERS: Second Council of Constantinople (A.D. 553)


The Church, The Holy Spirit and The Bishops already Destroyed This Nefarious, Execrable And Wicked Doctrine 1,400 years ago at the 5th Ecumenical Council in 553 A.D.

It's Finished.

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That's a fine display of some monstrous mind control. "If anyone says or thinks... let him be anathema."
It seems so blasphemous to claim this is the voice of the body of Christ. IMHO (while I am still allowed one)
Welcome to the Dark Ages.
 
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Questions Requiring Answers

As we are required to love our enemies, may we not safely infer that God loves His enemies? (Matt. 5:44)

If God loves His enemies, will He punish them more than will be for their good?

Would endless punishment be for the good of any being?

As God loves His friends, if He loves His enemies also, are not all mankind the objects of His love?

If God loves those only who love Him, what better is He than the sinner? (Luke 6:32-33)

As "love thinks no evil," can God design the ultimate evil of a single soul? (1 Cor. 13:5)

As "love works no ill," can God inflict, or cause, or allow to be inflicted, an endless ill? (Rom. 13:10)

As we are forbidden to be overcome by evil, can we safely suppose that God will be overcome by evil? (Rom. 12:21)

Would not the infliction of endless punishment prove that God HAD been overcome by evil?

If man does wrong in returning evil for evil, would not God do wrong if He was to do the same?

Would not endless punishment be the return of evil for evil?

As we are commanded "to overcome evil with good," may we not safely infer that God will do the same? (Rom. 12:21)

Would the infliction of endless punishment be overcoming evil with good?

If God hates the sinner, does the sinner do wrong in hating Him?

Is God a changeable being? (James 1:17)

If God loves His enemies now, will he not always love them?

Is it just for God to be "kind to the evil and unthankful," in their present life? (Luke 6:35)

Would it be unjust for God to be kind to all men in a future state?

-Questions requiring answers by A.C. Thomas-

At the foundation of the problem with "everlasting punishment" by the One whose essence is love.=

Love is NOT a characteristic of our Father, He IS love! All aspects of Him flow from His essence.

God IS Love

Essence=

Definition of ESSENCE
 
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That's the great thing about Christianity, all the major doctrines and heresies have already been hashed through and worked out in centuries past.

The Ecumenical Councils have already happened so there isn't anything left to debate or special new teachings or revelations about Universalism to learn because it has already been condemned and anyone who believes it or promotes it is Anathematized.

It makes things a lot easier.

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Right, so much easier to be mindless robots. Keep your head down and your mouth closed, or else. -- And don't forget to feel the love from the spiritual mafia.

Define anathema. (cursed) The Bible says...

Romans 12:14
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
 
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“"And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God; but he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭12:8-10‬ ‭NASB‬‬
 
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• Jesus Appears to His Disciples

Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, "Peace be with you." When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. So Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you." And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive The Holy Spirit. If You Forgive The Sins Of Any, They Are Forgiven Them; If You Retain The Sins Of Any, They Are Retained."

• John 20:19-23


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“"And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God; but he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭12:8-10‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Dear BNR: There is no question there are consequences to our words. Some of the most arrogant words are from fundagelicals who think nothing of blaspheming the Father & the Spirit that flows from Him.

"Stand up for me among the people you meet and the Son of Man will stand up for you before all God’s angels. But if you pretend you don’t know me, do you think I’ll defend you before God’s angels? If you bad-mouth the Son of Man out of misunderstanding or ignorance, that can be overlooked. But if you’re knowingly attacking God himself, taking aim at the Holy Spirit, that won’t be overlooked."

God is the Source, the Guide, the Goal of ta panta
 
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Here's a curious thing. The passage Mat. 25:31-46 only makes sense from a Universalist POV. Note the basis of salvation in that passage. (not by faith in Christ) Something I have always wondered about. Also notice that those being saved said they had not "seen" Christ. (vs 37-38) "Lord, when did we see you...?"

From the chapter titled: ETERNITY
Under the subheading: "AION" - AN AGE
read:Kindgdom Bible Studies Savior of the World Series Part 1

Note: In Windows OS select Reading View (the book icon) to make reading easier.
 
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