What is adultery in a biblical context?

  • Strictly sexual intercourse only

  • Any form of physical touch that you'd only otherwise do with your spouse

  • Flirtation in person

  • Sexting/exchanging images of a sexual nature

  • Online flirtation

  • All of the above


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Mountainmanbob

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Guilty of what? lol That? No, I can honestly say that I didn't shag any aging inappropriate content stars sans condom right after the birth of my child. Nor any other time :)

I just find the irony funny.

I remember making the argument about Clinton and how I wasn't voting for someone to be the moral compass of the country back in the 90's when the whole Lewinsky thing was going on. Pretty much the exact argument you're making there.

And I remember being told how wrong I was... How "character and integrity - especially in the marital sphere because it reflects on so many other areas" was of ultimate concern.

Kinda makes one think that most political issues are little more than "what benefits my side at the moment" - and ought be discounted as such :)

True he would probly not make the best pastor.
 
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Maybe if Trump admitted to the multiple abortions he's likely funded over the years - it might get some movement on that issue as well. lol

Well there is such a thing as repentance.

I guess only believers understand that?

M-Bob
 
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Guilty of what? lol That? No, I can honestly say that I didn't shag any aging inappropriate content stars sans condom right after the birth of my child. Nor any other time :)

I just find the irony funny.

I remember making the argument about Clinton and how I wasn't voting for someone to be the moral compass of the country back in the 90's when the whole Lewinsky thing was going on. Pretty much the exact argument you're making there.

And I remember being told how wrong I was... How "character and integrity - especially in the marital sphere because it reflects on so many other areas" was of ultimate concern.

Kinda makes one think that most political issues are little more than "what benefits my side at the moment" - and ought be discounted as such :)

Same old things we have been hearing for years.

2020 Should be a breeze.
M-Bob
 
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Honestly did not know that he repented or that he is a true believer?
M-Bob

Along that line - has Trump actually repented? What contrition are you basing your "forgiveness" upon?
 
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Along that line - has Trump actually repented? What contrition are you basing your "forgiveness" upon?

I'm not going to judge either one of those gentlemen for their sexual misdeeds. Actually my own past does not look that pretty.

But, I have repented and would not return to those sins to day for a million dollars cash. Even if knowing the little Mountain Lady would never find out.

Many times sin will have a nice little taste in the beginning but, in the end is very bitter.

Self control is one of the fruits of the spirit. I'm hoping that Clinton and Trump and myself can practice that today. Sometimes it truly is one day at a time.



M-Bob
 
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Thank you for this, WagonWheel.

Let me pick apart your post and provide my answers:

I certainly agree with you with regards to the 3 reasons for a marriage to end. "Reasons" being very loosely used, because death is the only one that doesn't give either spouse the option to try to save the marriage. We are never above giving our all to the restoration of marriage.

There are less important parts that I have left out for brevity, but none of which are in the league of things I have mentioned. There has never been any physical abuse, never any abandonment, and certainly from my side, never any adultery. The chance of her actually having committed adultery is a grey area, but as stated in a previous post, it would make no difference to me if she had. Sure, it would give me the biblical justification to leave the marriage, but that is a path I would never take.

By the deceiver I assume you mean satan? I completely agree with that. I have told her that I want to use our marriage for the glory of God and to serve as a testimony to not only bring others to Christ, but also to save marriages that are meant and able to be saved. I must be honest, me saying this about a month ago seemed to soften her heart a little, and she made mention of the fact that others might see her as "crying wolf" if she returns to the marriage. I don't think anyone understands what kind of glimmer of hope that gave me.

We have discussed the option of me confessing everything to her right from the start. Initially, and under duress, I offered one in writing as per her request, but there were details that I unintentionally left out and that caused a lot of issues between us. She has made mention again of us getting together in person to do this, with counsel present, and I really hope that it can happen soon.

I certainly am. Each new day is an opportunity to draw closer to God, and I am using the time I have in the best way possible.

I will add also, from my experience women are capable of forgiving a lot when their spouses are completely honest and forthright, Where they usually finally have enough is when the truth keeps coming out little by little which is what us men(many women) are more prone to doing. If a man has had 5 affairs and he confesses everything, lays all bare and opens his life to accountability more times than not his wife will forgive. However if he only confesses the one he got caught in or the one when he's had enough, she starts the reconciliation process then another one comes out or she finds out about his inappropriate content addiction and it's more than she can take and she's done. The trust is truly shattered because the fear is she'll never know the whole truth. Most experts say if you're thinking about coming clean with your wife, hold off until you have a support group in your life, men who will both support you in what you're going through and hold you to accountability, then come 110% clean.
 
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There's adultery and there's a carefully thought out decision, based on your wife's wishes and her terminal illness (Alzheimer's disease), to find someone who loves you both and has dedicated herself to make your wife's last few orbits around the sun as joyful, and fulfilling as it can be. That has nothing to do with wild three ways, having a mistress, or any form of cheating.
 
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According to Jesus, even having lust in our hearts for another...is committing adultery. So nearly all of your poll choices would be adultery. Online flirting etc...flirting doesn't necessarily mean lustful, but it would eventually lead there, if left unchecked.
 
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OP...Jesus said that if you looked upon another woman with lust, that's adultery, right?

Y'all both messed up. You have 2 choices...counseling and rebuilding trust OR calling it quits so you both can follow your hormones around.

I might be one of those "nasty liberals" around here but here's the deal...you both had a CHOICE to not act on whatever it was that was motivating you (see hormones). You both CHOSE to do stupid things. Actions have consequences. Biblically, YOU violated the covenant just by lusting after another woman. Quit trying to deflect blame here buddy...look in the mirror and realize your own faults and issues. Don't worry about what your wife is doing, worry about what you have done and are doing.

I am facing the reality of losing my beloved husband to cancer...he is terminal and MAY make it to our anniversary this fall. I have already determined that I will never remarry...EVER...nor will I pursue another relationship. I know technically I am biblically free to remarry since I would be a widow and fulfilled my vow "until death do us part"...but that's a big, fat NOPE!
 
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