Does willful sin separate the elect from God?

[Grip Docility]

You do not like the scripture provided to you in 1 JOHN 2:3-4 do you brother? It contradicts your interpretation of 1 JOHN 1:8 that it is ok to continue in sin. What do you think 1 JOHN 1:8 is saying? Careful now

You don’t like John’s context.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You don’t like John’s context.

No I love it. Thanks very much. That is why I provided the context of 1 JOHN 2:3-4 for you which is that we sin not (do not break God's Commandments) in 1 JOHN 2:1

 

[Grip Docility]

Sooo what does this have to do with what you are quoting from? Thats right nothing.

I asked what John said and you sidestepped him.

 

[Grip Docility]

No I love it. Thanks very much. That is why I provided the context of 1 JOHN 2:3-4 for you which is that we sin not (do not break God's Commandments) in 1 JOHN 2:1

John 5:39-40

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I asked what John said and you sidestepped him.

Not at all I provided context to 1 JOHN 2:3-4 which is that we sin not in 1 JOHN 2:1 which is breaking God's Commandments. You have no response now do you.

 

[Grip Docility]

Not at all I provided context to 1 JOHN 2:3-4 which is that we sin not in 1 JOHN 2:1 which is breaking God's Commandments.

The Law is worthless to save you.

It is a witness against all who embrace it. Deuteronomy 31:26

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The Law is worthless to save you.

It is a witness against all who embrace it. Deuteronomy 31:26

Who said the law saves us? If I have never said the law saves us why do you pretend that I have? OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50. We are saved by GRACE through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8

 

[Grip Docility]

When a person says they sin no more, according to the Law, they are saying Isaiah 14:14

 

[Grip Docility]

Who said the law saves us? If I have never said the law saves us why do you pretend that I have?

I know you depend on the Law and believe it is the mark of the true believer.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

When a person says they sin no more, according to the Law, they are saying Isaiah 14:14

Not at all. You do not know the meaning of JAMES 4:17 and ACTS 17:30-31 do you.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I know you depend on the Law and believe it is the mark of the true believer.

Not at all I posted what I believe above your post and it is not what you are saying at all, yet you continue say I believe things I do not. I will leave that between you and God. I have already forgiven you.

 

[Grip Docility]

Not at all. You do not know the meaning of JAMES 4:17 and ACTS 17:30-31 do you.

A verse ripped from context has the pretext to dissect the Truth.

 

[Grip Docility]

Not at all I posted what I believe above your post and it is not what you are saying at all, yet you continue to bear false witness. I will leave that between you and God. I have already forgiven you.

So the Sabbath isn’t what you believe seals believers?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

A verse ripped from context has the pretext to dissect the Truth.

Really? What is the verse that is ripped out of context?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So the Sabbath isn’t what you believe seals believers?

Nope never said it was. Why are you pretending to know what I believe and state things I have never said or believe? I can understand why you are trying to change the subject though.

 

[Grip Docility]

Nope never said it was. Why are you pretending to know what I believe and state things I have never said or believe?

You disagree with these words?

"The Sabbath is the great test question. It is the line of demarkation between the loyal and true and the disloyal and transgressor. ... It is the seal of the living God."4

"Thus the distinction is drawn between the loyal and the disloyal. Those who desire to have the seal of God in their foreheads must keep the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Thus they are distinguished from the disloyal, who have accepted a manmade institution in place of the true Sabbath. The observance of God's rest day is a mark of distinction between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not."5

 

[Grip Docility]

Really? What is the verse that is ripped out of context?

Frankly... 100% of the verses you use to exalt the Law of Stone and make Salvation conditional on the Creation... instead of the Creator.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Now who said I disagree with that statement? Sin is the issue here. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT, sin is the breaking of any one of God's 10 Commandments *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 7:7; ROMANS 3:20. Now if God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 Commandments then if we KNOWINGLY break it just like any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT all those who continue in known unrepentant sin will not enter the kingdom of heaven because those doing so reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; HEBREWS 10:26-31. The seal of God is the Holy Spirit that God gives to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *ACTS 5:32. You are really trying hard to change the subject here aren't you brother

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Frankly... 100% of the verses you use to exalt the Law of Stone and make Salvation conditional on the Creation... instead of the Creator.

There you go again claiming I am saying things and believing things I have never said or posted again.

 

[Grip Docility]

You disagree with these words?

"The Sabbath is the great test question. It is the line of demarkation between the loyal and true and the disloyal and transgressor. ... It is the seal of the living God."4

"Thus the distinction is drawn between the loyal and the disloyal. Those who desire to have the seal of God in their foreheads must keep the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Thus they are distinguished from the disloyal, who have accepted a manmade institution in place of the true Sabbath. The observance of God's rest day is a mark of distinction between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not."5

Now who said I disagree with that statement? Sin is the issue here. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT, sin is the breaking of any one of God's 10 Commandments *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 7:7; ROMANS 3:20. Now if God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 Commandments then if we KNOWINGLY break it just like any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT all those who continue in known unrepentant sin will not enter the kingdom of heaven because those doing so reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; HEBREWS 10:26-31. The seal of God is the Holy Spirit that God gives to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *ACTS 5:32. You are really trying hard to change the subject here aren't you brother