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Does willful sin separate the elect from God?

Does willful sin separate those once saved from God.

  • No, obedience is "works" and we are not saved by works.

    Votes: 10 33.3%
  • Yes, willful sin must be repented from in order to stay saved.

    Votes: 20 66.7%

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The sins of the accusers... then JESUS said to the women..

JOHN 9:10-11 [10], When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said to her, Woman, where are those your accusers? has no man condemned you? [11], She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more.

Do you believe the Words of JESUS?

If you have no LAW (10 commandments) in the NEW COVENANT there is no knowledge of what sin is *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4.

Hope this is helpful.

The same hands that formed Adam from the dust of the earth wrote into dust before a woman.

3 parties were present there...

God
A Sinner
Accusers

If Jesus would have written their sins, They would have Stoned Him! By the Law, Death was prescribed.

Hosea 6:6 is a lead in to “A new Commandment”....

My bet is on Hosea 6:6 as Jesus is known to have quoted it in Matthew 9:13.

It is interesting you perceive Jesus writing their Sins... when the Spiritual matter is exactly that we all have sin by the Stone Law.

If you exalt the Stone, your heart will be stone. If you exalt Christ your heart will be Christ. You cannot exalt both.

Mercy is far more important that the Law, by God!

So back to the point....

3 Parties Present... at the Adulterous event..

God (Righteous by the Law Mark 10:18)

Sinner (Condemned by the Law John 8:4)

Accuser (Satanic Accusers, Murderers, Teachers Of the Law, Devils John 8:44-45)

Which one are you?
 
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Not really. God's WORD says those who pretend to be Christian while continuing in sin are liars *1 JOHN 2:3-4.

1 John 1:8-10 is written in stone
 
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The same hands that formed Adam from the dust of the earth wrote into dust before a woman.

3 parties were present there...

God
A Sinner
Accusers

If Jesus would have written their sins, They would have Stoned Him! By the Law, Death was prescribed.

Hosea 6:6 is a lead in to “A new Commandment”....

My bet is on Hosea 6:6 as Jesus is known to have quoted it in Matthew 9:13.

It is interesting you perceive Jesus writing their Sins... when the Spiritual matter is exactly that we all have sin by the Stone Law.

If you exalt the Stone, your heart will be stone. If you exalt Christ your heart will be Christ. You cannot exalt both.

Mercy is far more important that the Law, by God!

So back to the point....

3 Parties Present... at the Adulterous event..

God (Righteous by the Law Mark 10:18)

Sinner (Condemned by the Law John 8:4)

Accuser (Satanic Accusers, Murderers, Teachers Of the Law, Devils John 8:44-45)

Which one are you?

You are confused no where does it say in the scriptures that JESUS wrote that in the dust. Jesus response was go and sin (break God's commandments) no more. He did not say to the women go and continue to sin, I will forgive you.
 
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You are confused no where does it say in the scriptures that JESUS wrote that in the dust.

He gave a new command that had always preceded the inferior 10

Galatians 3:17
 
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You did not read the post and the scriptures you were responding to did you as what you have written makes no sense to what you are responding to.

If you say you have no sin, you make HIM a LIAR.
 
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He gave a new command that had always preceded the inferior 10

Really and what was that? Love is the fulfilling of the law and sums it up and is expressed through the law by faith *ROMANS 13:8-10; ROMANS 3:31; MATTHEW 22:36-40.
 
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Really and what was that? Love is the fulfilling of the law and sums it up and is expressed through the law by faith *ROMANS 13:8-10; ROMANS 3:31; MATTHEW 22:36-40.

No. Love IS the LAW

1 John 4:8

Galatians 3:17

God is eternal... the Stone Law is SAND
 
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If you say you have no sin, you make HIM a LIAR.

There are your words above. God's definition is...

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

I know who I believe and it is not you. ;)
 
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There are your words above. God's definition is...

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

I know who I believe and it is not you. ;)

Really?

What did John write those commandments were?

John 13:34-35
 
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No. Love IS the LAW

1 John 4:8

Galatians 3:17

God is eternal... the Stone Law is SAND

As JESUS says; ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS OF LOVE HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40. You did not read any of the other scriptures sent to you did you.
 
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As JESUS says; ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS OF LOVE HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40. You did not read any of the other scriptures sent to you did you.

John 13:34-35

And indeed... they Hang... off of them... as in Love precedes.... Supercedes... LAW!
 
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As JESUS says; ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS OF LOVE HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40. You did not read any of the other scriptures sent to you did you.

John 15:17

Matthew isn’t John. ;)
 
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Really?

What did John write those commandments were?

John 13:34-35

1 JOHN 2:1 [1], My little children, THESE THINGS I WRITE UNTO YOU THAT YOU SIN NOT . And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

Yep CONTEXT is important and it is about SIN...

1 JOHN 3:4 [4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

Hope this helps :)
 
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1 JOHN 2:1 [1], My little children, THESE THINGS I WRITE UNTO YOU THAT YOU SIN NOT . And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

Yep CONTEXT is important and it is about SIN...

1 JOHN 3:4 [4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

Hope this helps :)

If you Say you have no sin, you make Him a Liar!

Hope this helps. ;)
 
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If you Say you have no sin, you make Him a Liar!

Hope this helps. ;)

You do not like the scripture provided to you in 1 JOHN 2:3-4 do you brother? It contradicts your interpretation of 1 JOHN 1:8 that it is ok to continue in sin. What do you think 1 JOHN 1:8 is saying? Careful now
 
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